NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Oh and for my lefty friends on this board, please just STFU about how this death was about revenge for the mistreatment of troops. Just STFU, please. Once they captured this poor fellow, he was dead no matter what. This "prisoner abuse" bullshit, was just a convenient excuse at the time to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Oh and for my lefty friends on this board, please just STFU about how this death was about revenge for the mistreatment of troops. Just STFU, please. Once they captured this poor fellow, he was dead no matter what. This "prisoner abuse" bullshit, was just a convenient excuse at the time to use. NoCalMike as the voice of reason. Color me surprised. BY THE WAY: I'm a little upset that the actions of a group of American soldiers, whom we expect to be disciplined, led to a civilian's death. AND that the death could have been prevented. I guess that makes me "Anti-American" 3,000 innocent civilians died on 9/11 for no reason. These monkeys don't CARE about "revenge" --- they just want to kill Westerners. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted May 12, 2004 BY THE WAY: I'm a little upset that the actions of a group of American soldiers, whom we expect to be disciplined, led to a civilian's death. AND that the death could have been prevented. I guess that makes me "Anti-American" 3,000 innocent civilians died on 9/11 for no reason. These monkeys don't CARE about "revenge" --- they just want to kill Westerners. -=Mike And Iraq was involved in 9/11, HOW? Oh that's right they weren't. It's just that all them brown skinned people look the same to you, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Oh and for my lefty friends on this board, please just STFU about how this death was about revenge for the mistreatment of troops. Just STFU, please. Once they captured this poor fellow, he was dead no matter what. This "prisoner abuse" bullshit, was just a convenient excuse at the time to use. NoCalMike as the voice of reason. Color me surprised. BY THE WAY: I'm a little upset that the actions of a group of American soldiers, whom we expect to be disciplined, led to a civilian's death. AND that the death could have been prevented. I guess that makes me "Anti-American" 3,000 innocent civilians died on 9/11 for no reason. These monkeys don't CARE about "revenge" --- they just want to kill Westerners. -=Mike well I mean shit, everyone here knows my view of the president, this administration, and the war in iraq, however these types of incidents are on an entire level of evil of their own, which has nothing to do with politics, or who was invading who, or who abused who etc.......There is just no reasoning for animals like this. We can argue till we turn blue about what Iraq was like before the war, but the fact is PRESENTLY, there are terrorists in Iraq commiting evil acts, and we need to root them out, 1,000 by 1,000, until they are all dead. I don't mind debate about the war, and debate about what direction we should be going. However, there is no reason for debate over horrendous acts like this, which have NO JUSTIFICATION WHATSOEVER..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firestarter 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 all them brown skinned people look the same to you, huh? Whatever. I say we put the next lot of prisoners on live TV and make them say "Hi, I'm a scum-sucking ex-Moslem terrorist from Abu Shithole-as-Salaam, and I don't deserve to live. Praise Jehovah!" Then force-feed them rashers of bacon, make them give each other blowjobs, and have a female Marine shoot each pair in the head/groin with a single high-explosive round. Hey, no sense in wasting perfectly good ammunition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Nuke them all. Only way to end the garbage that goes on in that region. Just waste the entire area. Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Syria, etc. Just to it George, PLEASE! I'm sick of hearing, seeing, and reading about this whole situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 12, 2004 THIS is why the mistreatment scandal was a bad thing. Because it threatens Americans in POW camps. I'm sure they were being treated just peachy beforehand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reign 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Amen to that...Iraq may not have had anything to do with 9/11 but they sure as hell didn't mind attacking Israel or trying to murder a US president...not to mention all the other bullshit they've done to unsettle the region....I was against going war with Iraq because I knew that shit like this was going to happen...our leaders are squabbling every day over this bullshit while we exterminate Iraqis by the hundreds each day and all the while Osama and his pack are lauging at us in some fucking cave in Pakistan...I'm not a rascist person at all but I am beginning to think that these people in the Middle East are beyond all help...you know what will happen if we leave that miserable country? Civil war like the world had never seen...trust me...that country is armed to the teeth and they'll never stop fighting us or each other...and civil war in Iraq will draw in Jordan and Iran until the whole damn world has no choice but be involved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reign 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Nuke them all. Only way to end the garbage that goes on in that region. Just waste the entire area. Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Syria, etc. Just to it George, PLEASE! I'm sick of hearing, seeing, and reading about this whole situation. Israel should be excluded...those people are backed into a corner and they'll probably be the ones doing the nuking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 12, 2004 3,000 innocent civilians died on 9/11 for no reason. These monkeys don't CARE about "revenge" --- they just want to kill Westerners. -=Mike 16,000 Iraqi's and 2,000 US/UK troops have died during this bungled Iraqi invasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted May 12, 2004 2,000 US/UK troops have died during this bungled Iraqi invasion. Wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 12, 2004 LOL, if you believe that 160 number you are seriously misguided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytomlin 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 How come everyone on the right gets outraged when MrZasz says this could have been avoided, but we have about four posts from people who want to blow up the Middle East, and they get a free pass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 12, 2004 The middle east aint nuttin but a buncha terrorists and who cares what they think dayum boy if it aint got a mcdonalds and mtv blow them suckers up god bless america ye haw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted May 12, 2004 LOL, if you believe that 160 number you are seriously misguided. What the hell are you talking about?? Scroll down: US KILLED: 790 COALITION KILLED: 115 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 12, 2004 LOL, if you believe that 160 number you are seriously misguided. What the hell are you talking about?? Scroll down: US KILLED: 790 COALITION KILLED: 115 For arguements sake i'll concede..only 1,000. ONE THOUSAND. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted May 12, 2004 LOL, if you believe that 160 number you are seriously misguided. What the hell are you talking about?? Scroll down: US KILLED: 790 COALITION KILLED: 115 For arguements sake i'll concede..only 1,000. ONE THOUSAND. Not an arguments sake, THAT IS A VERIFIED FACT. And also 790 + 115 = 905. 905 < 1000. How bad is the British education system these days? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 LOL, if you believe that 160 number you are seriously misguided. What the hell are you talking about?? Scroll down: US KILLED: 790 COALITION KILLED: 115 For arguements sake i'll concede..only 1,000. ONE THOUSAND. Not an arguments sake, THAT IS A VERIFIED FACT. And also 790 + 115 = 905. 905 < 1000. How bad is the British education system these days? I think it's rather obvious, in some cases at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted May 12, 2004 1,000 was a ROUNDED UP figure. Imagine 905 dead bodies piled up and then 1,000. See the difference? No. Just think, 905 people would still have been alive if Bush didn't get elected. Edit: didn't steal the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 12, 2004 BY THE WAY: I'm a little upset that the actions of a group of American soldiers, whom we expect to be disciplined, led to a civilian's death. AND that the death could have been prevented. I guess that makes me "Anti-American" 3,000 innocent civilians died on 9/11 for no reason. These monkeys don't CARE about "revenge" --- they just want to kill Westerners. -=Mike And Iraq was involved in 9/11, HOW? Oh that's right they weren't. It's just that all them brown skinned people look the same to you, huh? I guess you missed the whole "ties to Al Qaeda" thing here --- but, hey, there really ISN'T a big difference in Muslim terrorist groups. For arguements sake i'll concede..only 1,000. ONE THOUSAND. So, in the face of FACTS that differ from your BELIEFS --- you still STICK TO YOUR BELIEFS? What a guy! Whatever. I say we put the next lot of prisoners on live TV and make them say "Hi, I'm a scum-sucking ex-Moslem terrorist from Abu Shithole-as-Salaam, and I don't deserve to live. Praise Jehovah!" Then force-feed them rashers of bacon, make them give each other blowjobs, and have a female Marine shoot each pair in the head/groin with a single high-explosive round. Hey, no sense in wasting perfectly good ammunition. Marney, I still say video of a female soldier just beating the hell out of them and them begging for mercy would be PERFECT! I'm sure we have more than enough female soldiers who would be all to happy to just kick the ever loving snot out of them for the benefit of the cameras. 16,000 Iraqi's and 2,000 US/UK troops have died during this bungled Iraqi invasion. If the kill ratio is 8 enemies for every 1 ally --- it's HARDLY been bungled. 1,000 was a ROUNDED UP figure. Imagine 905 dead bodies piled up and then 1,000. See the difference? No. Just think, 905 people would still have been alive if Bush didn't get elected. Wow, the British education system IS horrible. Keep believing that if you're nice, they won't attack you. Hold on to that pipe dream. -=Mike EDIT: Seriously, hunger, you're too big a moron to even attempt witty discourse about U.S politics or the election. Go back to whatever the heck you think you know and leave the intelligent stuff to the adults. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 If 1,000 was a ROUNDED UP figure then what the fuck was 2,000? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 12, 2004 If 1,000 was a ROUNDED UP figure then what the fuck was 2,000? His wish. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 12, 2004 I agree with alot of what JSYK said, and have no problem with that. When you make me agree with TheMikeSC is when I feel disgusted. Osama Bin Laden has said numerous times "Death to all westerners" and ordered his troops to kill them. Their POWs are nothing but bartering chips to them and they'll execute them whenever they feel like doing so. You think the Iraqi prisoners being abused was bad? I guarentee you that the American POWs are starved, beaten constantly, sodomised, you name it. As somebody earlier said this was a conveniant way for them to kill one and videotape it. I guarentee you they've killed several more in the same manner. Evolution and Civilised mannerisms have passed the Mid-East by. They're about 200-300 years behind everybody else and quite frankly they're a cancer to the rest of the world. I mean you help free people from a man who exposes them to nerve gas and blames it on somebody else to rally the troops. How do they thank you? By opening fire on you of course. Iraq we have a chance of turning around since we're placing a regime in there with other civilised countries. Afghanistan and Pakistan need to be wiped from the face of the earth however. The countries hold no natural resources(unless you count dirt) and their people are bitter war mongers. Drop the nukes and let god sort them out. Also for Zsasz who asked "What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?" well quite a bit. See the Husseins and Osama's father worked together in the oil bussiness. Osama left his father behind but still stayed close to Saddam who helped him finance his terrorist camps. Thus he helped with 9/11. I mean even Castro gave large amounts of sympathy, but do you remember what Saddam had to say? It was something along the lines of "Its a sad day to see so much civilian casualties, however the U.S. brought it upon themselves by intervening in matters they had no place in". In closing; Fuck the financial aid to them, fuck their rights, and fuck the humane approach. Wipe them all out. If there's a dog in the neighborhood that has rabies I don't go out of my way trying to throw it bologna since nobody else will and risk being bitten. I shoot the fucking thing in the head and call it a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reign 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 How come everyone on the right gets outraged when MrZasz says this could have been avoided, but we have about four posts from people who want to blow up the Middle East, and they get a free pass? I agree that it could've and should've been avoided...I hate Bush for getting us in this shithole mess and I hope he's fired in November for it... I know my vote will go against him...but it doesn't change the fact that we are there...right or wrong...and these savage bastards were killing each other and wanting us dead for many,many years...I'm probably going to extremes by wanting them bombed but today is a bad day and I'm tired of this bullshit war..I'm tired of the jews being attacked every week...I'm tired of every fucking problem we have in this world(with some exceptions) stemming from this region...I have friends over there and they don't even understand it...it's all just a big fucking mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 12, 2004 In closing; Fuck the financial aid to them, fuck their rights, and fuck the humane approach. Wipe them all out. If there's a dog in the neighborhood that has rabies I don't go out of my way trying to throw it bologna since nobody else will and risk being bitten. I shoot the fucking thing in the head and call it a day. That is seriously disgusting. You're talking about extermeinating MILLIONS of people. A fraction of whom have actually done something wrong. Yes we all are bombarded with images that suggest everyone in the Middle East are in favor of killing everyone in the West but it doesn't make it so. I gre up with people who moved here from the Middle East and with few exceptions they were all decent hard working people who sent all of their money to their famlies still overseas so that they could live a better life. I'd never sanction what the Terrorists have done but slaughtering millions of people would FAR worse then anything they've done. That's not just to you FS but to everyone here. It's really easy to talk about doing this because none of you (thank god) will ever be in a postion to make that kind of decision. You don't know what it's like to take a life or to be resposible for someone dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 I've always figured that when people say that they are speaking of just the subhuman animals who don't deserve anything at all, much less life. I would never be for killing everyone over there, but if it was possible to destroy all of the bastards who take part in what we saw today, and the such, then I'd be the first in line to press the button that does them in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 12, 2004 I didn't mean the whole Mid-East. I specifically mean Afghanistan and Pakistan since both countries are nothing more than over sized terrorist training grounds. The children are taught to hate the West and NATO and then at 11 are recruited and trained militantly. Basically the people there are bred to hate. I didn't grow up hating the Mid-East, they did enough to warrant me choosing to hate them on my own. Those 2 countries are like a giant tumor. Instead of cutting the tumor out we're dealing it with in an ineffective manner. Before long it'll spread and the cancer of these terrorist groups will be completely irreversible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 12, 2004 I didn't mean the whole Mid-East. I specifically mean Afghanistan and Pakistan since both countries are nothing more than over sized terrorist training grounds. The children are taught to hate the West and NATO and then at 11 are recruited and trained militantly. Basically the people there are bred to hate. I didn't grow up hating the Mid-East, they did enough to warrant me choosing to hate them on my own. Those 2 countries are like a giant tumor. Instead of cutting the tumor out we're dealing it with in an ineffective manner. Before long it'll spread and the cancer of these terrorist groups will be completely irreversible. Killing everyone won't solve anything. All it will do Is make more countries hate you. What will you do nuke everyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 12, 2004 I don't think it will make everybody hate us. Sure, people will be disgusted and what not but I don't feel Afghanistan and Pakistan have any real strong allies. They basically live off of one another. We'd get that world wide feeling of disgust that Hiroshima caused, but if it wipes out 80% of terrorism I can live with a few countries frowning in our direction. I understand there are innocent people who would perish too, but at this point can you really see anyother way to deal with it? I for one can not. I would however be perfectly happy with just pulling completely out, financial aid and all. I don't feel we should be helping to feed them when they fire on us in return. Let them fend to themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2004 Nuke them all. Only way to end the garbage that goes on in that region. Just waste the entire area...Israel... Not a chance in hell. And just to reiterate, anyone who truly believes this man was killed in direct retaliation for the prisoner abuses, no matter what those scum of the earth say, is seriously dilluded about the causes of this conflict. THEY HATE US. They will use any excuse avaliable to kill Americans. We saw it before with Daniel Pearl (who was Jewish too, so it's not like they needed any other excuse), and we'll see it again. I've reached my toleration too. And I haven't turned against Bush, but I seriously want to pull out of the fucking hellhole and just drop bombs all over that god forsaken region. Bomb the living shit out of that mosque that shithead is hiding in, then if you want send them a cheque to build a new one. I don't give a fuck if they're offended. Then bomb the ever loving shit out of the entire Pakistani mountain region, Bin Laden will be somewhere in that mess. If the Paki government doesn't like it, tough, we can use India as a barganing tool. Then pull all our troops back to guard our boarders (including Canada, and withhold any aid to them if they refuse to help), and tighten our immigration laws, and make anyone who wants to come from the Middle East (especially on a student visa or some shit) go through extensive background checks before being given admittance. And all immigrants from those countries can and will be fingerprinted and kept on file (they're not citizens, so I don't want to fucking hear it). I would grant Asylum to anyone from Iraq, etc. who is truly trying to escape opression, similar to our Cuban policy. Then if Al Queda or some shit even threatens some shit, we send them a nice little message in the name of bombs . I'm tired of wasting ground troops on these personification of evils. I'm sick of putting up with this. Mr. Bush, it was noble to try to bring Democracy to a region devoid of even basic morals, but it's not going to work. Of course, all this will not happen. We'll jusy continue to try to play nice to appease those who want us dead and those who laugh with glee when it happens... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites