Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Casey for MVP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 What do you say October? Are we contenders this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 25, 2004 No question, with chicago getting rocked by injuries and The reds managing to stay strong WITH injuries... The reds are a great team...even if idiots like Kruk refuse to do research and realize it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 What do you say October? Are we contenders this year? Right now we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 It was nice when they were in 1st at the beginning, but it's so much more satisfying to see them fall and then claw their way back to best in the nationals (tied) and tied for best in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Isn't it somewhat silly to point to the Reds' pitching as a success when they are 12th in the league in runs allowed? Actually the Reds only have 4 pitchers with an ERA over 5 and one of them was released. John Reidling has a .042 ERA in 22 IP. Graves, Wilson and Van Poppel are all pitching in the 3 ERA range and that's pretty good considering Van Poppel was thrown into a starter position. Lidle is a little ify but he just threw a complete game shutout. Harang is inconsistent but he's still really young. Acevedo is the same way but he does have 45 Ks before this game started. So really the pitching staff isn't doing that badly at this point in the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Casey with homerun #6. He's on pace for over 20 which is amazing for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Oooh that was a close one with Bagwell That's one funny batting stance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 2-1 now. All of the hits (besides that Bagwell close shot) have been weak singles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 All right got out of that inning, let's get some runs on the board and stretch that lead out some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 What's wrong with what Al said? Just because he's not prasing the Reds like everyone else and is point out facts doesn't warrant any hate. The Reds are playing good ball, but I still think they'll level out eventually. No question, with chicago getting rocked by injuries and The reds managing to stay strong WITH injuries... For the record, while you can't take injuries to anyone lightly, I don't think there's much of a comparison here. The Cubs have lost arguably their top three players, not to mention their everyday shortstop, not to mention one of their two lefty relievers. And yet, they're still contending. I think the only major injury Cincy has suffered was that of Kearns and he's already back. Let's see what happens if two or three of their major stars goes down for any period of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 What's wrong with what Al said? Just because he's not prasing the Reds like everyone else and is point out facts doesn't warrant any hate. The Reds are playing good ball, but I still think they'll level out eventually. I don't recall any hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Isn't it somewhat silly to point to the Reds' pitching as a success when they are 12th in the league in runs allowed? Actually the Reds only have 4 pitchers with an ERA over 5 and one of them was released. John Reidling has a .042 ERA in 22 IP. Graves, Wilson and Van Poppel are all pitching in the 3 ERA range and that's pretty good considering Van Poppel was thrown into a starter position. Lidle is a little ify but he just threw a complete game shutout. Harang is inconsistent but he's still really young. Acevedo is the same way but he does have 45 Ks before this game started. So really the pitching staff isn't doing that badly at this point in the season. If they're not doing so badly, why do they keep allowing runs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Yeah, the Reds are doing ok, but we won't be talking about this in three days after they are swept by Florida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Yeah, the Reds are doing ok, but we won't be talking about this in three days after they are swept by Florida. Not if Darren Oliver pitches (and he's scheduled to). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 No he isn't. He's out of the rotation. You'll be seeing Tommy Phelps. Phelps, who is 0-0 with a 3.00 ERA in 12 relief appearances, will make his first start on Wednesday at Cincinnati. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Isn't it somewhat silly to point to the Reds' pitching as a success when they are 12th in the league in runs allowed? Actually the Reds only have 4 pitchers with an ERA over 5 and one of them was released. John Reidling has a .042 ERA in 22 IP. Graves, Wilson and Van Poppel are all pitching in the 3 ERA range and that's pretty good considering Van Poppel was thrown into a starter position. Lidle is a little ify but he just threw a complete game shutout. Harang is inconsistent but he's still really young. Acevedo is the same way but he does have 45 Ks before this game started. So really the pitching staff isn't doing that badly at this point in the season. If they're not doing so badly, why do they keep allowing runs? Because 4 guys, one who got released, have been giving up most of the runs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 No he isn't. He's out of the rotation. You'll be seeing Phelps. Oh, well .. ESPN needs to update that. Good move, however. Very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Isn't it somewhat silly to point to the Reds' pitching as a success when they are 12th in the league in runs allowed? Actually the Reds only have 4 pitchers with an ERA over 5 and one of them was released. John Reidling has a .042 ERA in 22 IP. Graves, Wilson and Van Poppel are all pitching in the 3 ERA range and that's pretty good considering Van Poppel was thrown into a starter position. Lidle is a little ify but he just threw a complete game shutout. Harang is inconsistent but he's still really young. Acevedo is the same way but he does have 45 Ks before this game started. So really the pitching staff isn't doing that badly at this point in the season. If they're not doing so badly, why do they keep allowing runs? Because 4 guys, one who got released, have been giving up most of the runs. Looks like Lidle, Jones, and Harang are pulling their fair share. The only guy I'd trust on that staff is Jose Acevedo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Eh...... I'd trust Wilson, Reidling and Graves before I'd trust Acevedo to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Man I love Larkin-Casey-Griffey Best lead off going! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Actually Freel is the lead off guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 JUNIOR!!!! 2 run double! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 WhatdidItellya! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Actually Freel is the lead off guy. Ah, yes you're right Best clean up crew then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Griffey is giving me great numbers tonight. It would be nice if Dunn joined in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 @ Casey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Eh...... I'd trust Wilson, Reidling and Graves before I'd trust Acevedo to be honest. Based on peripherals, Acevedo far and away has the best prospects on that staff, in my view. He's the guy I keep long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Yeah, I wouldn't trust Graves with a 10 run lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted May 25, 2004 Eh...... I'd trust Wilson, Reidling and Graves before I'd trust Acevedo to be honest. Based on peripherals, Acevedo far and away has the best prospects on that staff, in my view. He's the guy I keep long term. Oh definately, I just meant at the moment I'd trust those 3 before him. Though I really miss Gabe White and Scott Sullivan and Williamson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
