Guest Goodear Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I figured since Anglesault and Ravishing Rick do this eveyr so often that I would hoist my own patard for predicting something ahead of time that seems to proving to be true. You all might remember a few months before Edge came back from his neck injury that there seemed to be calls far and wide for him to drop the smiling goofy part of his character and become more serious in order to really become more of a World Title sort of wrestler. Meanwhile, old Goodear stood back and yelled mightily to all that could hear that being goofy is what made him unique and what helped him get as over as he did. 'We already have serious faces out the bung," said I. But still the serious crowd demanded that old Edge go away and be replaced with someone more intense, more dark, and more like he was in the freaking Brood. Well folks... you got your wish. Since coming back, there has been no smiling, no calling anyone 'dork'... oh and in case you missed it, a whole lot less crowd response. Good call everyone. Meanwhile, I miss happy Edge. I miss the toothy grin and obvious joy the kid was taking in running around like a moron with little to no cares in the world. I miss the fact that he would run down people in a juvenile way because, to me, that felt like the real Edge. This growling avenger we have now is a put on. It's an act. It's not the way the guy actually is. And whenever you take that away from anyone, you get the lackluster performances and low crowd responses we're getting now. Not everyone in the world of wrestling can be Chris Benoit. Not everyone should be Chris Benoit. Just keep this in mind as you watch 'serious' Kurt Angle bomb again and Edge wander around like a phantom of the guy he used to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I'm editing my original post because it didn't make much sense. I agree with what you've said. Ever since the "angry" Edge has appeared any and all momentum he had wrestling-wise has been gone. He's the weak link in the majority of tag matches and his work in singles against Orton left much to be desired (when Orton is outperforming you, there's an issue). Face Edge during the SD Six Era was either really good or really poor (not bad, just poor, as in working below his level). He managed to keep pace w/ Benoit, Eddy and Angle and he did well for himself but his spotty selling and shitty offense held hiim back. If they're going w/ the heel turn on Benoit (which they should), he should change his name to Adam Copeland. Edge is his gimmick name. Adam Copeland should be his wrestling name. Give him a good finisher (he can keep the spear but use it less often) and put him in a feud that means something. I can definetly see an Edge vs Benjamin feud for the IC TItle in the works if Benjy goes over Orton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gearhead Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Edge calling people Reekazoids and high fiving Christian is in the past, although its a bit more future than the mysterious 'Brood' Edge that was an amazing character. I think if he wants to be serious and have more intensity, more power to him, but if he wants to joke around a bit and have a good laugh, that wont get him the championship belt. Benoit - No sense of humour, Crap on Mic but "Supposedly" a good wrestler. he's champ for a reason, now if Edge was to be like a robot all the time he probably wouldnt be were he is today, so some people are different. Triple H - When he was arsin about with DX and being a funny guy, he never wont the belt, until he got down with Steph and got a serious storyline, now look at the guy. If he wants to cut it as a champ, he needs to get serious. Eddie G is a champ on Raw because of his character and his etnicicity (Major SP???) his Lie, Cheat and Steal character works for him. Edge was a great double team with Christian, but he has to face facts, and he has, Seriousness cuts it, keep his mind on the ball and he'll go far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Bring back the Downward Spiral! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Benoit - No sense of humour, Crap on Mic but "Supposedly" a good wrestler. We hope to prove this theory one day... I agree about Edge, though. His face character in the past did grate my nerves a few instances, but at least he had a character. He needs a new direction. Hopefully, the spear from Monday will give him something. Pardon the pun, but he needs an edge if he's going to main event. How about he appologizes to Benoit, and Benoit basically says that, while he is disappointed in losing the belts, now he can focus exclusively on his World Title. Just an innocent comment, but one that kinda irks Edge. Edge goes on to build up a series of singles wins and challenges Benoit to a match on Raw. Benoit takes it and offers a handshake to Edge. Edge refuses. He walks out. No cheap shot, just a lack of respect. Edge can get a cheap pin on Benoit in a tag match (or hell, do it clean) and get a rematch at SummerSlam (yes, I'm hoping HHH is nowhere near the title match). Building up to the match the next week, Edge is relentless. Benoit can't shake him. Edge follows him around backstage and just has the whole creepy vibe going. Benoit confronts him about the stalking. Edge just keeps his eyes on the belt and tells Benoit, "I'm sorry, but I'm exclusively focusing on your belt". Just an idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 That's a really good idea, Matt. Edge is one of the most famous tag-team wrestlers in the history of the company and a comment by Benoit that sets him off would work well, IMO. Edge saying "Now I'm focusing exclusively on your title" is money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Best feud idea from this board this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just Looking Report post Posted June 2, 2004 To play off of that idea, I noticed that whenever Edge and Benoit had a tag match, they'd introduce Benoit first, and then introduce Edge as the "other half" of the tag champions, rather than the co-holder of the tag titles. Maybe it sounds petty, but something small like that could work. Hell, after reading the things Foley was thinking about using as reasons for possible heel turns, I'm thinking something like that wouldn't be to petty to use at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Edge is nothing more than a mid-carder 4 life, if he is not teaming up with someone as good as Benoit or Rey then people start seeing him for what he really is...... an overpushed WWE homegrown wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detox 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Edge is trying to pull off the impossible he has the look and all the nuances of a heel yet he is a babyface I think he has been used the wrong way since he has returned when he came back he automatically has a ppv match against Kane,it was a decent match but they have no history together.A more logical situation for a small feud could have and should have been a heel Matt Hardy,they have considerable history with each other and are familiar with each other in the ring that could have benefitted Edge alot while he was trying to knock off the ring rust. Im sure most fans would have enjoyed a Benoit vs Edge match at BB and the whole Edge "Accidently" spearing Benoit could have evolved into a heel turn for Edge and some quality matches going into the summer with Edge maybe picking up the title at SS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Have they even mentioned the fact that we still don't know who attacked Edge last February? Or has that been conveniently forgotten? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 he automatically has a ppv match against Kane,it was a decent match but they have no history together. Decent match?The only decent part of that match happen after the ref raised Edge's arm at the end of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Have they even mentioned the fact that we still don't know who attacked Edge last February? Edge was attacked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Have they even mentioned the fact that we still don't know who attacked Edge last February? Or has that been conveniently forgotten? I always thought that would have been Brock, leading to Brock-Edge when he returned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I like that Edge idea too. Maybe after Edge beats Benoit in a tag match Benoit can be upset because he lost and then Edge can say "Hey, it was just a tag match, right? Now you can go back to defending the title, huh?" That would put Benoit off since he's being mocked...but he'd think about it because Edge did beat him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Have they even mentioned the fact that we still don't know who attacked Edge last February? Edge was attacked? It will turn out to be Benoit, Benoit will turn heel, he was Edge's partner that night and saying 'i did it for the spotlight' will further cement his turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I might be the only one here who thinks this, but I think Edge is legitimately the "future" of the WWE in so many more ways than guys like Orton & Batista are (or ever will be). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Batista is too old to be considered the future, and Orton still has a ways to go. Edge has a head start since he's been there for a while already. I'd buy Edge as a ME'er over Orton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Have they even mentioned the fact that we still don't know who attacked Edge last February? Or has that been conveniently forgotten? I'm still waiting to find out why Edge speared Bischoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Have they even mentioned the fact that we still don't know who attacked Edge last February? Or has that been conveniently forgotten? I'm still waiting to find out why Edge speared Bischoff. It was just the cool thing to do. Really, I think Edge just got caught up in the heat of the moment, so he speared his new boss. Actually, I think Bischoff was the one that attacked Edge. Think about it. He had a match with Austin that very night and was in a bad mood, so he Back-Leg-Front-Kicked Edge in the neck. Yeah, he was trying to ruin SmackDown's big match! In retrospect, maybe Edge just wanted to see if the spear still worked. Wrong place, wrong time! Maybe there is no reason. Edge hates mean people! Mean people suck! Maybe I should just try one booking idea per thread now. Thanks for the kind words, guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Repo Man Reborn Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I think when Edge came back, he was given the tired, stale cliche of "hurt wrestler returns and is more intense, more focused and fully jacked up on roids." See: H, Triple; Tista, Ba Edge needs to be a mix of intensity and the cocky, "reekazoid" guy in order for the heel turn to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 But still the serious crowd demanded that old Edge go away and be replaced with someone more intense, more dark, and more like he was in the freaking Brood. Well folks... you got your wish. Since coming back, there has been no smiling, no calling anyone 'dork'... oh and in case you missed it, a whole lot less crowd response. On Raw he got a hell of a lot of crowd response. How's he like the original character? He's had virtually no real character development except for that spear on Bisch that went nowhere, and his promos have been completely generic. They just stripped him of the main things that made him popular before, and didn't replace them with anything. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, because I never called for a serious Edge. Frankly, he's a midcarder for life in my eyes. I just don't get what you're supposed to be trying to prove here. He's been directionless and he's, at best, the 5th top face on Raw? Why they didn't just leave him on Smackdown I don't understand. He's a non-factor on Raw and SD needed him a hell of a lot more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I think Edge should just become a violent alcoholic... kinda like Hawk, just angrier and less suicidal. Maybe during promos he'll occasionally start to cry and put a gun in his mouth, but he never actually pulls the trigger. I would so mark out for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I read in the RAW magazine that the reason why Edge speared Bischoff was because he just never liked the man, and that he wanted to make an impact. Plus, he said that he wasn't gonna kiss anyone's ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Anything is better than the hilarious, funny, laugh a minute Edge who never said or did anything funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I miss the more goofy Edge as well, its not like people didnt think he could get the job done, they always thought that stood a chance and since he has beaten people like Kurt Angle, they had no reason to think otherwise. Besides the goofy Edge insulting people in a juvenile manner made him seem more...well more normal. I mean not every guy can be really serious, that takes some of the fun out of it not to mention the clashing personalitys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 But still the serious crowd demanded that old Edge go away and be replaced with someone more intense, more dark, and more like he was in the freaking Brood. Well folks... you got your wish. Since coming back, there has been no smiling, no calling anyone 'dork'... oh and in case you missed it, a whole lot less crowd response. On Raw he got a hell of a lot of crowd response. How's he like the original character? He's had virtually no real character development except for that spear on Bisch that went nowhere, and his promos have been completely generic. They just stripped him of the main things that made him popular before, and didn't replace them with anything. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, because I never called for a serious Edge. Frankly, he's a midcarder for life in my eyes. I just don't get what you're supposed to be trying to prove here. He's been directionless and he's, at best, the 5th top face on Raw? Why they didn't just leave him on Smackdown I don't understand. He's a non-factor on Raw and SD needed him a hell of a lot more. IIRC one the major factors for moving him to RAW was to start a program with HHH. That sure went places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 IIRC one the major factors for moving him to RAW was to start a program with HHH. That sure went places. Yeah. "Over the summer," was the way it was put. However, HHH is going be out of the picture at Vengeance to film his movie, and Benoit/HHH is the most likely Summerslam match. So where's HHH/Edge fit in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 IIRC one the major factors for moving him to RAW was to start a program with HHH. That sure went places. Yeah. "Over the summer," was the way it was put. However, HHH is going be out of the picture at Vengeance to film his movie, and Benoit/HHH is the most likely Summerslam match. So where's HHH/Edge fit in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest INXS Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Best thing for Edge is to turn heel and end up on SD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites