Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 7, 2004 From ProWrestlingScoop's Reporter Justin Rowland on 06.07.2004 Just a note, Jeff Hardy's profile page is still up over at WWE.com. It can be found by Clicking Here There has been some talk as of late concering a feud between Ric Flair and Mick Foley that would take advantage of the legitimate heat that exists between the two. The reason for Edge's heel promo at the WWE house show in Manchester, England last week was due to the fact that WWE road agents instructed wrestlers to play more to the crowd's reactions and desires. Since the crowd was booing Edge and not helping him get over as a face like what should have happened, Edge played to the crowd by cutting a heel promo. In the past, heels were told to get the crowd to turn against them and babyfaces were told to get the crowd to love them. A few days ago it was reported that WWE has been expressing interestin some TNA wrestlers. Among said workers are Chris Sabin, Michael Shane, and Trinity. Vengeance will cap off the first time WWE has run three PPVs in the span of six weeks, and the buyrate numbers for the shows will help determine whether WWE will expand to 20 PPVs a year or not. This could possibly be the reason why Eddie did what he did.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 But were his matches against Bradshaw? I don't see any need for Eddie to play the heel when Bradshaw is certainly not playing the face. I think Germany just shit on the product and the fact that THIS is the best the company has to offer when a year ago it woulkd have been an awesome show. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the JD match between the two, but it should have been handled more like Eddie/Chavo from RR 04 and should be in the past now. NO ONE cares about a fucking bullrope match, and I can't blame the German fans for shitting on the current state of what Smackdown has become. what better place and time to voice your opinion than the main event? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted June 7, 2004 What Eddie did was fairly unprofessional. BUT, in his defense, how would you like it if you had to work with Bradshaw every night. Ever since he has become champion Smackdown! has gone straight down the toilet. Granted it is not his fault, but everyone justs ees that brand as completely useless. So this guy sweats and bleeds for the fan's approval, and he gets booed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I don't think they were booing Eddie in the first place, but more the overall product. Eddie's frustrations with management added to the fact that the show sucks and he's the cornerstone got the best of him (allegedly) and he blew up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Or maybe those German fans just hate Mexicans? Eddie's a grown damn man and can do whatever he wants as long as he doesn't hurt anybody without a really good reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I don't think they were booing Eddie in the first place, but more the overall product. Eddie's frustrations with management added to the fact that the show sucks and he's the cornerstone got the best of him (allegedly) and he blew up. How can you say that if you weren't there? How would you be able to figure out WHY the crowd was booing? If you weren't there or saw it then it's all speculation.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Was anyone one there when Bradshaw did the salute? No. Did everyone find him guilty before seeing actual evidence? Yep. Why should we not believe this story, yet post how hideous Bradshaw is before the picture came about? It should be no different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Why should we not believe this story, yet post how hideous Bradshaw is before the picture came about? It should be no different. Because Eddie hasn't been known to be a racist fuckwad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Why should we not believe this story, yet post how hideous Bradshaw is before the picture came about? It should be no different. Because Eddie hasn't been known to be a racist fuckwad. Err...ok. Eddie's incident wasn't related to racism. It was related to a hot temper. Eddie has a history of losing his tempers at a house show. Again, it's no different to the Bradshaw story in terms of initial evidence and backstory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JohnCena Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I am from Germany and was at the show. The Fans that were against Eddie (only a few. About 8-10 People in the first row) was cheering for the heels all the time. The Rest of The Crowd was cheering for Eddie. Eddie was (for some kind of unknown reason) pissed off because of that cowards and turned against the Hall with a "Germany sucks". After that the mood was down and the Crowd was about 60 to 40 for Bradshaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Hmmm. Bradshaw does the Nazi Salute, and Eddie says "Germany Sucks". And we are suddenly biased because we support Eddie for doing something any other person that's playing the heel role would do? Right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Eddie was (for some kind of unknown reason) pissed off because of that cowards and turned against the Hall with a "Germany sucks". Really? Wow, that seems like a stupid thing for Eddie to do. What about the Bradshaw Nazi stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Bradshaw does the Nazi Salute, and Eddie says "Germany Sucks". And we are suddenly biased because we support Eddie for doing something any other person that's playing the heel role would do? Right. Eddie WASN'T playing the heel role. He was pissed that he wasn't getting cheered. BIG difference. And the two incidents are seperate and should be treated as such. I'm not saying Eddie's doings were as bad as Bradshaw's. I'm saying it's bias to be assuming Eddie is automatically innocent while saying Bradshaw was guilty, on the same levels of evidence. It'd be no problem to me if people disagreed on both situations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 It's equally as ridiculous to be biased for Eddie in this situation when he's already blown up at house show fans twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 7, 2004 It's equally as ridiculous to be biased for Eddie in this situation when he's already blown up at house show fans twice. As far as I remember he waqs provoked by idiot fans both of those times..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 7, 2004 the thing is...It's not like Eddy is the first person to be taunted and "provoked" most workers should have the mind and intelligence to let it past (eddy gets a pass for the first incident with the beer) but this one...he's inexcuseable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 7, 2004 the thing is...It's not like Eddy is the first person to be taunted and "provoked" most workers should have the mind and intelligence to let it past (eddy gets a pass for the first incident with the beer) but this one...he's inexcuseable. Just to make it clear....I'm not making an excuse for Eddie on this one, it was unprofessional...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted June 7, 2004 With Bradshaw, we had pictures, with Eddy, we're working on assumptions and second-hand reports. The other two times, he was physically provoked, and he's been in the business long enough where this really hasn't been a problem. Bradshaw, we know is very hard-headed. It's funny how everyone's crying biased around here. Pot. Kettle. Black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted June 7, 2004 What's the big deal... So he got annoyed and lashed out alittle...some of you are acting like it's some unforgivable sin. It also doesn't at all compare to the stupidity of Bradshaw's incident, so get out of here playing the bias card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 7, 2004 What's the big deal... So he got annoyed and lashed out alittle...some of you are acting like it's some unforgivable sin. It also doesn't at all compare to the stupidity of Bradshaw's incident, so get out of here playing the bias card. good shit....I'm glad someone else thinks this way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted June 7, 2004 In the Observer report, all he says is "Germany sucks", which is nothing to get all riled up over anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I want to comment on The Rock adjusting to the booing at WM X-8, and from what this is here. First, someone mentioned scattered fans booed Eddie. Big Deal. At WM X-8, Rock was completely booed out of the building. And plus the fact Hogan is over as a face anywhere probably had Rock prepared to go heel. Eddie just seems to need some time off. The guy's been carrying the show on his back for several months, and really hasn't had any time off that I can remember since he returned from his personal problems in April 2002. I won't say Eddie is right, but still, maybe management DID tell him to do something incase the fans were against him, and maybe they didn't. Probably the latter The Bradshaw incident is the same. Who can honestly say he actually did that stuff? I saw the picture, and I can't tell (reasons in the thread propper). I retracted my hate in that thread, and said until there's actual proof, I won't go convicting someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 the thing is...It's not like Eddy is the first person to be taunted and "provoked" most workers should have the mind and intelligence to let it past (eddy gets a pass for the first incident with the beer) but this one...he's inexcuseable. I'd be inclined to give him a pass on the 2nd, too, as the idiot in the crowd threw a drink and barely missed his daughter. This one came out of left field. But, he did have to be hospitalized after the PPV, is working w/ injuries, flew overseas, and hasn't had any time off lately. Probably just a bit stressed out. Not an excuse, but I can see where he's coming from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Bradshaw does the Nazi Salute, and Eddie says "Germany Sucks". And we are suddenly biased because we support Eddie for doing something any other person that's playing the heel role would do? Right. Eddie WASN'T playing the heel role. He was pissed that he wasn't getting cheered. BIG difference. And the two incidents are seperate and should be treated as such. I'm not saying Eddie's doings were as bad as Bradshaw's. I'm saying it's bias to be assuming Eddie is automatically innocent while saying Bradshaw was guilty, on the same levels of evidence. It'd be no problem to me if people disagreed on both situations. He was playing the heel role for the night i'm assuming since the crowd did turn him heel. But either if he wasn't turned heel but was booed; he says "Germany Sucks". Is it that big of a deal? Even if he took it seriously, did he touch somebody? It's something a person being booed at would do, and when they are being booed at, they are turned heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 What's the big fucking deal? All you guys that said he needs to control his temper are pussies. Shooting is one of the coolest things in wrestling. These kinds of things happen in wrestling, it's no suprise, and definatly nothing to get worked up by. Like Kido said, he's a grown man and can anything that he wants too. I find it funny how people say it was unprofessional of him to do that. IT'S IN A WRESTLING SHOW!!!!! Those things happen, and if someone has a problem with it, DON'T GO!!! I find it funny, that noone said anything about JBL doing the Nazi Salute, but they jump all over Eddie for speaking the truth. Sure, JBL's Nazi Salute could have been a work, but how do we know? And if it was a work, then everyone should be pissed at Vince McMahon for coming up with it. Same thing goes for Eddie, we don't know if it was a work or shoot. But it doesn't matter if it was either one, stuff like that is almost guaranteed in a wrestling show, like when the face is being booed, they are going to play off that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 7, 2004 This is getting REALLY fucking old. They have to tell him that if this happens one more time, he loses the title at the next possible TV show and gets two months off to "cool off" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 'We're not being bias because what Bradshaw did was worse'. Hooray for missing the point. The bias is the ASSUMPTION that Eddie did NOTHING wrong...yet Bradshaw HAD to be in the wrong. Bear in mind this is before the picture of Bradshaw providing proof. I just don't understand how an article saying Eddie did something wrong can be excused, while an article saying Bradshaw did something wrong earlier is 100% legit from the word go. FUCK the severity of the issues, that's not my point as I have already said. The fact is Eddie is no more in the right than Bradshaw as far as doing something wrong goes. So he only said 'Germany Sucks'. I know. As I said, it's a lot less excusable than Bradshaw's actions. It's the fact people are trying to blow this off as if nothing happened. Eddie broke character and allignment to insult the crowd. That's unprofessional. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 FUCK the severity of the issues Nice double standards there considering what Bradshaw did is ILLEGAL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Hmmm. Bradshaw does the Nazi Salute, and Eddie says "Germany Sucks". And we are suddenly biased because we support Eddie for doing something any other person that's playing the heel role would do? Right. Can, can you read? Read the report from someone who was there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 FUCK the severity of the issues Nice double standards there considering what Bradshaw did is ILLEGAL! Jesus. I HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT BRADSHAW'S ACTIONS WERE MORE SEVERE! I HAVE ALREADY POSTED MY DISGUST AT WHAT HE DID IN THE OTHER THREAD! I AM NOT CONDONING WHAT BRADSHAW DID! THE SEVERITY, HOWEVER, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POINT I AM CURRENTLY TRYING TO MAKE! Apologies for the caps, but it seems like nobody can understand normal sized letters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
