SAVED!

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

It's been picking up steam as of late, as what I thought was just gonna be some small time independant blip on the radar, it's been advertised on TV often from what I can tell, and many other people who would have never heard of it otherwise seem to be talking about it. The fact that Roger Ebert gave it ***1/2 will definitely bring it some attention, whether one likes Ebert or not, and I most of the time don't. The fact is though, that perhaps the most well known standard for movie critiques would be "Two Thumbs Up". I was looking forward to seeing it before, but now I am even moreso.

 

For those who don't know, the movie is about a teen girl who gets pregnant at a Christian High School, and the ensuing chaos when all the fundamentalist students try to "Save" her, the leader being Mandy Moore (Yes I know it's a Mandy Moore flick). Still, the movie looks pretty funny. The only thing I'm worried about is that the ending may be too predictable, judging by what all other movies made in a similar mold would tell you, but seeing as how I haven't seen it, I guess I can't say anything.

 

Useless fact: The movie was produced by Michael Stipe.

[razazteca 0]

Don't new movies come out on Fridays or has anybody found it on the net yet?

[BlackFlagg 0]

probably won't get to see it at the theatre but will definately check it out when I get a chance.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Well I never said I saw it before, but it comes out tomorrow. I've been trying to d/l it, but on Kazaa it seems to keep cancelling is taking FOREEEEEEEEEEEEVER.

 

It's probably a fake anyway. I guess I should just shell out the thirteen dollars and see it in theater.

[Guest Choken One]

13 bucks? for a god damn movie?

[Guest thebigjig]

Jerry Fallwell says it's the most hateful Christian bashing movie to come out of hollywood in years... of course, that's complete bullshit, but hey... if Fallwell hates it, then that's a good enough reason for me to go see it

[Guest El Satanico]

It does look good and I want to see it, but it'll most likely be a DVD viewing for me.

 

Mandy Moore is gonna end up getting type cast, if she keeps doing these wholesome goody two shoes roles. She needs to start playing some slutty or out of control characters. Of course, I don't know if she could make herself believable in such a role.

[razazteca 0]

I think the role of being the stupid blond slut is already taken by several so being the wholesome goody two shoes role fits her at the moment.

[AndrewTS 0]

Mandy Moore is gonna end up getting type cast, if she keeps doing these wholesome goody two shoes roles. She needs to start playing some slutty or out of control characters. Of course, I don't know if she could make herself believable in such a role.

Are those the only two possible sorts of characters for barely-legal teenage actresses?

 

Wait, wait, wait--there's also "nerdy chick," "nerdy hot chick," "gluttonous fat chick," and "goth chick." We can't unfairly write off the creativity movie-makers exhibit when they create roles for young actresses.

[razazteca 0]

Don't forget black girl with the attitude.

[Guest El Satanico]

Mandy Moore is gonna end up getting type cast, if she keeps doing these wholesome goody two shoes roles. She needs to start playing some slutty or out of control characters. Of course, I don't know if she could make herself believable in such a role.

there's also "nerdy chick," "nerdy hot chick," "gluttonous fat chick," and "goth chick."

Include "goth chick" with what I said.

 

When I said "slut", I didn't mean stereotypical stupid airhead blonde bimbo. I don't want to see that type of slut.

 

Of the character types mentioned, I'd like to see her play a out of control party girl or "goth chick". Perhaps this all plays into me wanting to corrupt the wholesome Mandy Moore.

[AndrewTS 0]

That's quite evil of you. While I wouldn't condone it, if I wanted to do such a thing I'd cast her opposite of millionaire skank supreme Paris Hilton. Any movie with her in a role requiring her to act surely would be the work of Satan himself.

[Guest El Satanico]

Since when has it been evil to desire corrupting the innocent and pure?

 

 

oh wait...that's right

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Jerry Fallwell says it's the most hateful Christian bashing movie to come out of hollywood in years... of course, that's complete bullshit, but hey... if Fallwell hates it, then that's a good enough reason for me to go see it

Indeed.

 

I was gambling at the MGM Grand when I saw a trailer for this on a big LED jumbotron they have in a part of the casino (which is so huge that a room with a jumbotron is only "part of the casino.") It was interesting enough to pull me away from looking at my game of Wild Cherry, although "Coffee And Cigarettes" interested me more.

[4hartthreat 0]

It does look good and I want to see it, but it'll most likely be a DVD viewing for me.

 

Mandy Moore is gonna end up getting type cast, if she keeps doing these wholesome goody two shoes roles. She needs to start playing some slutty or out of control characters. Of course, I don't know if she could make herself believable in such a role.

Well I think she took your advice before you even gave it. Based on what I've seen and heard, in this movie she plays someone who likes to think she is a good person, but is really a bitch. Guess we'll see.....

[Guest El Satanico]

It does look good and I want to see it, but it'll most likely be a DVD viewing for me.

 

Mandy Moore is gonna end up getting type cast, if she keeps doing these wholesome goody two shoes roles.

Well I think she took your advice before you even gave it. Based on what I've seen and heard, in this movie she plays someone who likes to think she is a good person, but is really a bitch. Guess we'll see.....

I figured that's how her character would end up being.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

13 bucks? for a god damn movie?

Ten for a student, thirteen for an adult. I guess I should've said ten. It's expensive in the Tdot...

 

She is a bitch in this movie, it's essentially the opposite of her character in A Walk To Remember. Both Christian girls, but they represent different ends of the spectrum.

[Guest Vitamin X]

$13??? That's fuckin unheard of, man. Even out in Los Angeles it doesn't get pricier than 9.50 or so.

[NoCalMike 0]

this movie looks like it will be funny in an offbeat type of way. I will probably see it. A satire on teenage true christian believers ought to be a riot.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The Commercial for it where the girl says "I'm filled with the love of God" or something like that and then throws a Bible at the other girl cracks me up every time.

 

They should have taken a page from "You got served!" and called it "You got saved!" though..

[AndrewTS 0]

QUOTE (El Satanico @ Jun 10 2004, 08:45 PM)

It does look good and I want to see it, but it'll most likely be a DVD viewing for me.

 

Mandy Moore is gonna end up getting type cast, if she keeps doing these wholesome goody two shoes roles. She needs to start playing some slutty or out of control characters. Of course, I don't know if she could make herself believable in such a role. 

 

On 411, I noticed in Chasing Liberty, she IS playing a slut. Well, she's more of a wannabe slut exhibitionist, and there are very other obvious sexual perversions by other characters. Regardless, I guess neither you or I were familiar with her body of work.

 

I guess I wasn't wrong about how her leg is draped across that dude's thigh didn't seem too innocent.

[Guest Choken One]

I saw this movie this afternoon and I throughly enjoyed it.

 

It was a hilarious satire of Christianity. Malone was good as usual but Moore was great in her role.

 

Amazingly, I was able to shake "Home Alone" out from seeing Mackuly Culkin in a wheel chair.

 

High recomendations

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I saw this last Friday.

 

It was really entertaining until the blah ending.

 

Mandy Moore was great.

[Guest Choken One]

I gotta agree the last 15 minutes was straight from any other standard hs movie...

 

 

kinda disapointed there.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

$13??? That's fuckin unheard of, man. Even out in Los Angeles it doesn't get pricier than 9.50 or so.

Maybe he's one of those suckers that buys theater snacks and drinks instead of just sneaking them in.

[Guest Fook]

$13??? That's fuckin unheard of, man. Even out in Los Angeles it doesn't get pricier than 9.50 or so.

Well it's $13 Canadian.

 

*waits for someone to make lame joke about how it's only $2.15 US*

[godthedog 0]

i thought it was okayish. i won't go on about the ending (which was HORRID), but it overall didn't know if it wanted to be a funny drama about real people struggling with religion through the hardships in their lives, or an exaggerated satire of new-age jesus freaks. they took some characters from the former (like jena malone), some characters from the latter (mandy moore, in a TOTALLY thankless, one-dimensional role, who serves no function whatsoever other than to be the evil bitch we're supposed to root against). some characters flip-flopped between the two. the pastor was a well-drawn character with tensions & depth & such...except when the script needed a straw man to point out everything that's wrong with fundamentalism, and he became a stupid little talking head. the satire was overdone and tried way too hard to be clever. the "message" was really preachy.

 

good cast, though. i got a kick out of seeing patrick fugit, macaulay culkin, mandy moore, and heather matazarro's cleavage all in the same movie. i didn't recognize matazarro at all until an hour and a half into the movie, and then i went "wait a minute...THAT'S dawn wiener?" she and culkin have some really good chemistry. (dear god do i feel dirty for saying that.)

[AndrewTS 0]

"good cast, though. i got a kick out of seeing patrick fugit, macaulay culkin, mandy moore, and heather matazarro's cleavage all in the same movie. "

 

Isn't Macaulay Culkin like 35 now?

 

Anyway, sounds about like what I expected. Not as "sacriligious" as the fundies say, but seems to be pretty intolerant at points. However, I do kind of wonder what the point is of casting Mandy and making her a stock antagonist character. *shrug*

 

I guess Dogma is still the best religious satire out there, in part because of Catholicism having so many institutions and traditions begging for it. Protestantism is so splintered it's hard to focus on that stuff.

 

Were there any heated arguments over which way you can baptize some one? Or how about whether one can "lose" salvation or not?

[Guest Choken One]

Culkin is like 22.

[LJSexay 0]

I loved the movie... call me krazy ;D but the plot was pretty good, everyone did a great job in their roles, AND... I almost sorta forgot about Kulkin being in the film. It was so weird.