Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Just look at the sexy fucking bitch! Even when he's just woken up after a hard night's posting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 19, 2004 he's woken up from a hard night's posting? no wonder you suck. you're not even awake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Eh... 'Tis true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Damn, is everyone hung over this morning? Moody bunch of cock suckers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Back on topic: Maybe with the Tajiri match out, Shelton Benjamin will appear on the card, against Kane or something. He was advertised originally as being on the card, and is probably Benoit's opponent in Fort Myers tomorrow night, so he might be with the crew, travelling. I just want to see Shelton Benjamin, and hear the pop he'll get from the crowd for living just an hour down the road from here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Against Kane? That should be interesting, seeing as neither guy can afford to lose. Notice how Shelton's begun to phase out most recently, before and after Bad Blood? Speaking of which, where was he on Raw this week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 It's a house show, outside of the title matches which you know the outcomes of already, it doesn't matter who wins. And Shelton was made to look like God at Bad Blood and has a sure rematch at Vengeance, I'd hardly call that phasing out his push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 19, 2004 True, at Bad Blood he was, but in the week before or so, there were no hardhitting promos like previously and this week he wasn't even on the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 He's never had a "hard-hitting" promo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muzz 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 I highly doubt they'd put a future star like Shelton on the shelf for a while. All he needs is for his character to develop, much like Orton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 True, at Bad Blood he was, but in the week before or so, there were no hardhitting promos like previously and this week he wasn't even on the show. Shut the fuck up. Please. All your posts read like this WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Each -iB- post can be better summarized with this: "You're right, but I have another generic opinion to offer yet!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 You know what's not a fun game? Finding fault in every little thing. They're catering to the local crowd. It's a good thing and should be done more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Btw, it looks like the same show took place last night in Spartanburg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysPissedOff 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 You know what's not a fun game? Finding fault in every little thing. They're catering to the local crowd. It's a good thing and should be done more often. No one was complaining about the WWE catering to the local crowds, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllustriousOne 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 I'd fight kotz, and... Wait, this isn't that thread... Topic: I wish I had known about this house show earlier. My swearing off of anything television has kind of prevented the LOCAL ADVERTISEMENTS from getting to me. PERHAPS if KOTZ told me about these things sooner, I'd be more inclined to go. *sadface* (Just kidding) EDIT: Okay, APO's post was FUNNY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 You know what's not a fun game? Finding fault in every little thing. They're catering to the local crowd. It's a good thing and should be done more often. No one was complaining about the WWE catering to the local crowds, though. Those were two different topics, hence the space in-between. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Flair vs Benoit was the main event last night in another market as well, and Tajiri was there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 World Tag Team Championship Matt Hardy & Val Venis vs. La Resistance If WWE was smart they would make Hardy & Venis tag team champions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Could you imagine... WWE WrestleMania 21, LIVE April 3, 2005 from the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California Your main event for this evening: For the World Heavyweight Championship: Chris Benoit (Champion) VS Ric Flair Benoit BETTER NOT have the title by then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Flair vs Benoit was the main event last night in another market as well, and Tajiri was there. I guess the news reports about Tajiri taking time off were wrong. I like how people are surprised that the same show would be run two nights in a row. I still feel Shelton Benjamin should make an appearance in some form. Orangeburg is almost considered part of the Charleston metropolitan web. 'sides, they get our papers and TV channels out there. Shelton's virtually a hometown boy, kinda like Sgt. Slaughter was from Paris Island. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 The best part of that match will be when Benoit makes Flair tap and all the rubes in the audience who think there will be a title change (there'll be a lot) will have to cry tears of sorrow. Other then that, good luck to Benoit. It's going to take a miracle to make Flair look anything short of competent in that match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Give me an example of how he's "barely holding it together"? I hope Benoit takes it easy on Flair this time because he probably won't have Orton there to "make the save already." I was wondering if anyone was ever going to mention this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Speaking of which, where was he on Raw this week? Shelton pulled Heat duty for whatever reason. The card looks good, Val Venis & Matt Hardy as tag team, wtf. Interesting though. I call Flair getting pinned by Benoit with a small package when going for the Figure Four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Flair's the man. He has such a great legacy. Flair looked like a hobbled, old, homeless, drunk in the ring last week against younger, more in shape athletes. That's cool he got one last chance to ME a house show, in the state he lives in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 20, 2004 Speaking of which, where was he on Raw this week? Shelton pulled Heat duty for whatever reason. The card looks good, Val Venis & Matt Hardy as tag team, wtf. Interesting though. I call Flair getting pinned by Benoit with a small package when going for the Figure Four. I fail to see how they'd team Hardy and Venis up on Raw, but it looks good on paper. And for fuck's sake Kotz, maybe not "hardhitting", but the promos really got the crowd on his side, which was thanks mainly to Orton, because Benjamin was sounding pretty horrid on the mic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2004 Im guessing thats roughly what the card will be for the house show Im going to next Sunday. Yippee. Probably will get Kane vs Benoit though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted June 20, 2004 Im guessing thats roughly what the card will be for the house show Im going to next Sunday. Yippee. Probably will get Kane vs Benoit though. I wonder if the Kane/Benoit House Show matches that were apparently so good were better or worse than Bad Blood? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2004 I was third row, just off-center of the side opposite the entranceway, probably the best seats I've ever had for an event. Being so close and the place only being about 3,000 strong, just about anything I yelled was heard at least by that side of the floor section. Since I went to a Raw show and was so amped to see Raw instead of Smackdown because Raw rules Smackdown right now... I went and bought Smackdown merchandise. I finally got the new Scarface-inspired Eddie shirt, and the Cena Word Life baseball shirt with the retro WWE logo. No "You Can't See Me" shirts sadly (especially since I've managed to get "you can't see me" with the hand wave over at the College of Charleston), although the brand new Matt Hardy shirt was there, and I almost got it instead of the Cena shirt. I wore the Latino Heat shirt for the duration of the event, and MAN did a lot of people buy those. It was hands-down the most-purchased shirt, as literally every third person was wearing one, or so it seemed. Here's the results: National Anthem v. La Resistance - La Resistance in a squash. DUD I'm the only one applauding and cheering La Resistance in the entire building. No, really. Rhyno and Tajiri v. La Resistance for the World Tag Team Titles - La Resistance win of course, crowd is super hot thanks to good ol' Anti-American heat. I spend the match lauding La Resistance and Quebec, but working "RHYNO, THE MAN-BEAST FROM DETROIT, MICHIGAN" in as many times as I could while he was in the ring. La Resistance sings O Canada afterward while, once again, I'm the only one to applaud. * Eugene comes out during the singing and generally fucks things up. La Resistance leaves in disgust, and Howard Finkel interviews William Regal and Eugene. The house microphone blows, but I can make 90% of stuff out. Finkel asks Eugene how he's doing, Eugene responds with "I'm doing good, longest employee of the WWE!" He then bashfully hides his face in Regal's shoulder when congratulated on his victory at Bad Blood. Eugene v. Garrison Cade - Garrison Cade, Eugene's opponent for tonight, cuts the interview short and gets cheap "fuck with the loveable handicapped guy" heat. Garrison Cade is still the most boring wrestler on the planet, and I spend the entire match yelling for him to interest me somehow. I start to feel bad and stop, opting instead to just ask him where his cowboy wrestling boots are and why Jindrak is getting the rumored push instead. This match was LONG for a Eugene match, seriously a legit 10-13 minutes, with a looooooong heat segment for Cade (well, five minutes of Cade offense feels like an hour). Spots included Cade throwing a chair into the ring, only to have Eugene sit in it, then sit the ref in it while he assumed refereeing duties and counted up to 9 on Cade before he came back into the ring. Cade then chased Eugene out of the ring and said that he was going to waste everyone's time himself and sit down too. The ref pulls the chair out of the ring while he's jabbering though, and Cade falls on his ass. Backwards N Bottom puts Cade down after the Hulk-Up, but the Rainpeople's Elbow is cut off, and Cade makes the mistake of going outside and fucking with William Regal. Regal comes into the ring and kicks Cade's ass (no DQ, but it's a Eugene match, like we're keeping track of such things). Cade walks into a Savant Stunner for the Eugene win. Crowd ate up everything Eugene did, and Regal got a pretty good pop after some initial boos for him talking during the interview (guess some fans remember he's been a heel for like, 99.9% of his time in WWE). Can't really rate a Eugene match. I sadly peak early in the night by yelling "EUGENE IS MACHO MAN 2K4!!" Howard Finkel lets us know the Fabulous Moolah was in attendance at ringside, since she lives in Columbia, just up the road from here. I hope she doesn't get involved in the women's match. She gets a decent crowd reaction, but not what they were hoping for probably. Here's where the match order gets a little fuzzy. Molly v. Victoria v. Trish Elimination Match for the Women's Championship - I HEAR VICTORIA'S MUSIC LIVE~! I seem to be the only one in the entire arena doing something once again, this time being the only person marking so hard for an entrance theme. I got a small "Evil Trish Rules" chant going in my section, but it didn't pick up much steam. "Molly is underrated!" didn't pick up so well either. Trish uses a SPINEBUSTER(!!). Molly is eliminated quickly, but beats the crap out of Victoria to get back at her. Victoria appears to have won it anyway when Molly comes back out, and Trish uses the distraction to have Tomko toss her the belt and nail Victoria with it for the win. Real quick match. The crowd is not amused, because Molly's wig didn't come off. Rednecks love seeing women humilated, I guess. *1/4 VEE ONE-AHHHHHHHH v. Chuck Palumbo - Since the card was already screwy, I had no idea who Palumbo was going to face while he cut a pre-match promo to let the crowd know he was Italian, and thus ruled because of that. I couldn't argue with that logic. Us Italianos can't help it. It got him booed really badly somehow. I was busy yelling "WEAR A CUP!" Seriously man, Palumbo's portruding pecker was hard not to notice when he had a half-chub going on. Matt Hardy's music hit, and anyone who knows me in real life knows that I'm the biggest Matt Hardy mark in the Charleston metropolitan area (I just liked Cena's shirt better, dammit). I spoke of Matt Hardy in tones not unlike how I'd talk about Jonah in my Tough Enough III recaps for the TSM main site. Another gem, "LITA'S NOT YOUR BABY MOMMA!" Palumbo's heat segment was damned boring, but any time he deviated from the format or what he was scripted to say, the guy managed to be pretty darned good in his mannerisms and overall charisma. Didn't keep me from asking him where O'Haire went though. This was the first match that kinda killed the crowd. * Chris Jericho v. Batista - And just like that, the crowd was awake again. Batista comes out first and cuts a shockingly good promo. I still don't get why they don't let him talk more on TV. The usual South Carolina-bashing stuff, but it was said so damned snobbily and the addition of "I'll say this slowly because I have pity for the mentally challenged" was a nice touch. What was really funny was that the crowd didn't realize he was talking about them. Man, I love and hate this place for its stupidity at the same time. Batista says Jericho cheated to pin him on Monday night, and he was going to settle it tonight. Jericho busts out a boring face promo and calls Batista an assclown. There's seriously three to five minutes of Jericho mocking Batista at the start of the match and Batista leaving the ring repeatedly to show his frustration. Jericho spends his time on offense making fun of Batista's posing as a "Steroids" chant starts up. I said "Jealous" in tone with the chant, and my section picked up on it, since it seemed all the Batista marks in the place had been put in my area. Jericho wins a pretty good match with an Enziguri, and no one around me gets the "BATISTA FEARS ENZIGURI!" Batista kicks Jericho's ass after the match. ** Intermission time, and kids walk up to me and call me the Intercontinental Champion because they don't recognize the '98-'02 WWF replica belt I'm wearing. I clarify for them and field about 80,000 people asking me how much it cost. The current WWE title belt replicas were going for $240. Man, I got one for $40 less, from the company itself, and a much better design. Granted, that was two and a half years ago, but still. Edge v. Randy Orton for the Intercontinental Championship - Orton is officially over as a big-time heel. He blows me away all match long by doing shit like fighting a hammerlock like it was some deadly submission, thrusting his crotch in the ref's face when he was being checked for weapons in his boots, bumping like mad for everything Edge did, and winning without the RKO, rather rolling up Edge after Edge fucked up the spear. Edge still doesn't really interest me very much, and I just yelled "TURN HEEL ALREADY!" all match long. The crowd legit can't stand Orton, it's beautiful. He didn't even have to talk. ** Tyson Tomko v. Val Venis - Man, why didn't this go on after the intermission? This killed the crowd deader than dead after the recognition pops. Me yelling "CHOPPY CHOPPY YOUR PEE PEE" got a bigger reaction than just about anything other than the finish. Official catcall that whizzed over everyone that was present's heads: "GET 'IM, ACE STEEL!" This was the match where I had to entertain myself despite being a big Val mark, yelling "VAL SHOULD BE IN THE MAIN EVENT," then when people laughed, I yelled "NO, REALLY! THAT WASN'T A JOKE!" I also claimed that Tomko's tattoos were a maze and that when he contorted a certain way, his back smiled at me. Val won with the Money Shot, and Tomko looks like the only problem he solves is ending others' losing streaks. Wasn't this guy supposed to be a badass or something? Fortunately, no "boring" chants, although one almost started, the only scare of the night. Poor Val. 1/2* T-shirt dude comes out to fire Chris Benoit and Eugene shirts into the crowd and GODDAMN CAN THAT THING SHOOT A LONG WAY. Turns out he's from Mt. Pleasant, which is part of the Charleston area. Amazing. WWE's got loads of SC connections, with Tony Chimmel being from Spartanburg, Shelton Benjamin from Orangeburg, and so on. It's only notable because we really don't spawn many other famous/famous-ish people. WHY WE ALL CAME: Ric Flair v. Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Championship - Flair gets a MASSIVE pop that belies the 2/5 full arena. He gets on the microphone after Benoit comes out and declares us to be Flair Country, and Benoit's pretty much screwed. He then rips on people in the crowd, pledging to give mens' wives rides on Space Mountain, kick the asses of the fatsos that were still heckling him, and just generally owning the entire arena. Benoit says that while this is Flair Country, he's FOR REAL. You know, I'm still not sure if Benoit is for real or not. I mean, I'm kinda on the fence about it, and I don't recall him ever really saying it himself... hmm... (for the retards who will respond and say how he is for real and has said it many times, that's the point of the joke. He's said he's FOR real FOUR million times) Benoit says he'll bitchslap Orton if he tries to interfere. They work a pretty low-impact match thankfully. We get TWOOOOOOOOO~ Flair Flops and the crowd eats up everything that Flair's doing. Even yelling "Wake up, dammit!" at the ref for a two-count got a small pop. Surprisingly though, there were a lot of Benoit chants. The arena seemed to be nicely divided between old-school and new-school fans, with literally one side chanting for Benoit and the other chanting for Flair. Orton's beating on Benoit is hilarious when he runs to the other side of the ring and pretends to buff his nails when the ref accuses him of interfering. Flair can do no wrong, and the figure four gets a huge pop with people screaming for Benoit to tap. Batista interferes to allow Flair to get a LOW BLOW~ on Benoit, but his control of the match doesn't last long, as Benoit hits the triple Germans and slaps on the Crossface for a pretty quick tap-out from Flair. Benoit poses with the belt for a minute or two after the match, still selling the legwork by Flair by hardly being able to climb up the turnbuckles to hold the belt up. *** because Benoit acted absolutely wrecked after the match, and conveyed pain and exhaustion a LOT better than the HHH/Michaels snoozefest. Yes, I hate that match so much that I give ratings for other matches based on how much I hate it. Finkel thanks us for showing up, I hang around the ring and ponder talking my way into being able to just stand in it or something, but everyone's rushed out of the arena so they can take it apart. I remember going to a Raw in 2000 where I hung around virtually forever after the cameras went off and never got rushed off, despite a LOT more work involved in taking that apart. Anyways, I head outside with the intention of having one of the members of Evolution or Benoit sign my belt, but we get some BS story from the dudes standing outside of the gate that no wrestlers are leaving out of there, because they're already gone. Keep in mind the last match ended about ten minutes prior to this. An ambulance shows up for some reason, and an Embassy Suites shuttlebus comes in while the ambulance is still parked next to the exit area. Flair ended up taking the shuttlebus (with Orton I think). Batista was nowhere to be seen. They told us that everyone was gone again, but then people started yelling "TOMKO!" and I laughed at the guy that told us everyone had left. Get this: Benoit and Tomko travel together. They were in a brand new Lincoln Town Car no less. After that, they say that everyone's gone, and I'm inclined to believe it this time. 'sides, it's REALLY humid here in coastal SC and I had on two shirts (my original "The Rock has come to layeth the smacketh down in North Charleston" from the February 2001 Smackdown taping was underneath the Latino Heat shirt), so I figured it was time to go. Overall, another live event that I enjoyed thoroughly. Just about the whole show was playing to the crowd, as all faces went over except in cases of title matches, as it should be. House Shows are a lot of fun, and I almost prefer them to TV tapings. The guys can cut loose and have fun out there, which is what I like to see. No match over ***, but ***** of entertainment. I feel I got my money's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoff 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2004 Sounds like a tight little show. Trish uses a SPINEBUSTER ~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~!~!~!!!1!1lolomg House Shows are a lot of fun, and I almost prefer them to TV tapings Jeez, almost? I way prefer them (whoa, bad grammar). You get all the jokes and stuff you don't see on TV, and as you said, the faces usually go over, making the mark in me very happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites