Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Im waiting for Rob E Dangerously to come in here and laugh at the Orioles (oh wait, he brought it up in last weeks thread..): The Orioles got the right-handed reliever they needed, acquiring Jason Grimsley in a trade with the Kansas City Royals on Monday. Baltimore gave up right-handed prospect Denny Bautista for Grimsley, who immediately agreed to a contract extension through 2005. Grimsley, 36, is 3-3 with a 3.38 ERA in 32 appearances for the Royals this season. Since signing with Kansas City before the 2001 season, Grimsley leads AL relievers with 251 appearances, with a 3.94 ERA over that span. For his career, he's 38-50 with a 4.75 ERA in 13 seasons. Bautista, 23, began the season at Double-A Bowie before making his major league debut on May 25. He made two relief appearances, allowing eight runs in two innings, before being optioned back to Bowie. The Orioles' bullpen has struggled since right-hander Rodrigo Lopez was made a starter in May. Lopez was sent back to the bullpen last week, but injuries may force manager Lee Mazzilli to return him to the rotation. YOU DONT TRADE A 23 YEAR OLD PITCHING PROSPECT FOR A 37 YEAR OLD WASHED UP RELIEF PITCHER!!!! Is Bautist the one the yanks lit up or the one that stopped them for a bit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 23-years old and only in Double-A (been in the minors since 2000) so he probably isn't THAT great of a prospect. Does a have a great strikeout per nine innings ratio but walks too many and has an ERA near five. The problem I'd have with the deal is immediately giving Grimsley an extension. Oh and the A's bullpen is getting lit up again. I know I'm shocked too. At least they had the deceny to do it when they were already losing tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Im waiting for Rob E Dangerously to come in here and laugh at the Orioles (oh wait, he brought it up in last weeks thread..): The Orioles got the right-handed reliever they needed, acquiring Jason Grimsley in a trade with the Kansas City Royals on Monday. Baltimore gave up right-handed prospect Denny Bautista for Grimsley, who immediately agreed to a contract extension through 2005. Grimsley, 36, is 3-3 with a 3.38 ERA in 32 appearances for the Royals this season. Since signing with Kansas City before the 2001 season, Grimsley leads AL relievers with 251 appearances, with a 3.94 ERA over that span. For his career, he's 38-50 with a 4.75 ERA in 13 seasons. Bautista, 23, began the season at Double-A Bowie before making his major league debut on May 25. He made two relief appearances, allowing eight runs in two innings, before being optioned back to Bowie. The Orioles' bullpen has struggled since right-hander Rodrigo Lopez was made a starter in May. Lopez was sent back to the bullpen last week, but injuries may force manager Lee Mazzilli to return him to the rotation. YOU DONT TRADE A 23 YEAR OLD PITCHING PROSPECT FOR A 37 YEAR OLD WASHED UP RELIEF PITCHER!!!! suckers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 22, 2004 From the Red Sox clubhouse page on ESPN.com The Red Sox are poised to sign veteran RH reliever Curtis Leskanic, who was released last week by the Royals, The Boston Globe reported June 21. "Curtis is a hell of a pitcher," Ellis Burks, who played with Leskanic on the Rockies, told The Globe. "He throws 95 miles an hour with a nice split and slider. I like the kid." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 then again.. Leskanic is injured and he'll be retiring after the year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 22, 2004 I'm sure if he doesn't pass the physical they won't sign him. He'll also most likely only get a 200K deal so no big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 YOU DONT TRADE A 23 YEAR OLD PITCHING PROSPECT FOR A 37 YEAR OLD WASHED UP RELIEF PITCHER!!!! Especially when they could have just picked Curtis Lescanik up off waivers for nothing. While he struggled at times it looked like towards the end he got into a groove. There's talk of the Red Sox signing him so they can send Anastacio Martinez back to Triple-A. Anastacio Martinez got sent down when Trot came off the DL. If they do sign Leskanic and he is healthy enough, Malaska will be sent down. Either that or DiNardo will be(but that would probably mean he goes back to the Mets since he is a Rule V guy). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 The Jason Grimsley deal has me shaking my head. The Orioles are not winning anything this year, and bullpen help is the last piece of a championship puzzle, not the first. The Orioles panicked, and it may cost them dearly. "If he [bautista] avoids injuries, he could develop into a number one starter." -John Sickels' Baseball Prospect Book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 No one ever talks about this, but the Brewers are not sucking this year, which being a life-long fan, makes me very happy. I'll be ecstatic if they finish out the year over .500, which they haven't done since 1992. It looks like they'll do it this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 I thought those of you outside Chicago might get a kick out of this. New White Sox marketing chief Brooks Boyer can't re-sign Magglio Ordonez, anoint a fifth starter or engineer a deal for Carlos Beltran. Instead, Boyer is trying to fire up Sox fans with a provocative new television ad that highlights the differences between the Sox and their neighbors to the north. Under the theme of "Sox Pride," the ad uses "We" and "They" to initiate a civil war that Boyer sees as, well, civil. "We're not taking shots at the Cubs," Boyer said Monday. "That's clearly not our intention. We're really passionate about our team. "At the same time, this is sports, and we can have fun with some of our ads." The commercial, which will run until the Sox's June 25-27 home series against the Cubs, begins with a voiceover: "The White Sox present a comparison." With Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" (for those not musically inclined, think of the final scene in "Caddyshack") in the background, the ad trumpets "Them vs. Us" and goes as follows: They: Are lovable even when they lose. We: Hate losing. They: Champions in 1908. We: Champions as recently as 1917. (And who can forget 1906?). They: Believe they're cursed. We: Agree. They: Got Wood. We: Got lumber. They: Have a fan who says "Woo." We: Don't. They: Need tickets? See a broker. We: Call 866-SOX-GAME. Oh, and the mayor likes us better. Said Boyer: "We're challenging White Sox fans to take pride in their team." And trying to sell tickets. "The fact that they're sold out is great for us," Boyer said. "We're telling people: 'Come sample our ballpark. It's a completely different experience than going to Wrigley Field.'" Cubs marketing chief John McDonough said he first saw the ad on the Sox's Web site. "We're flattered to be the centerpiece of their advertising campaign," he said. "It's not necessarily the approach I would take, but the more exposure, the better." Neither McDonough nor Boyer could recall an ad in which a city's seemingly less popular team (say, the Clippers or Mets) had targeted its intracity competition. The closest comparison might have been the minor-league Wolves, who tweaked the Blackhawks last season with billboards that read: "We play hockey the old-fashioned way. We win." In 1997, the Sox's flagship radio station, WMVP-AM 1000, constructed an ad on a building outside Wrigley Field that read: "Major-league baseball, 8.1 miles south." The Sox didn't approve the ad, but apparently didn't reject it either. "That was stabbing, taking a real shot," Boyer said. "That's not what this ad is about. We are who we are. We can poke fun at ourselves. "Look, all their tickets are sold, and mine aren't. I hope to be in position one day where they have a shot at me." Since taking over for Rob Gallas in April, Boyer, a 32-year-old former Notre Dame basketball player, has brought a fresh approach to the Sox's marketing efforts. He had previously worked for the Bulls under Steve Schanwald, the marketing guru who has managed to keep United Center seats mostly full in the post-Michael Jordan gloom. Boyer is spearheading a plan in which the Sox will call every season ticket-holder by mid-August to say thanks and ask if the team can do anything to improve their experience. That would mean about 4,000 calls. The main goal of the ad campaign is to cultivate future season ticket-holders. "We're trying to make it cool to be a White Sox fan," Boyer said. Some wonder if the spot will alienate less-than-die-hard Sox fans. Boyer doesn't think so, saying the ad was light-hearted enough to point out that the South Siders won a World Series "as recently as 1917." The line that might draw the Cubs' ire is "Need tickets? See a broker." Remember the Cubs' brokerage service, Wrigley Field Premium Ticket Services Inc., which has been a source of more embarrassment than revenue for the team? Isn't that line intended to poke fun at Premium? "That's for you guys to decide," Boyer said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Whenever I go to Chicago I think about going to a Sox game, then I quickly come to my senses. As going to a ballgame is fun, but not worth your life. I would not even stop my car at a stop sign in some parts of the southside of Chicago, much less spend time going to a ballgame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 Story of the season so far, the Jays walk FOUR times in the 1st but don't score once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Story of the season so far, the Jays walk FOUR times in the 1st but don't score once. Walk-DP-walk-walk-walk? That fucking grandslam chart for Jeter is annoying me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 walk-walk-dp-walk-walk, actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Bad call in favor of the yanks walks in a run. The most the ump could say was it could have been inside, but it almost surely crossed the plate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Nomaaaaaaaaah's first homer of the season is a Grand Slam to put the Red Sox up 8-1 in the 7th Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Whenever I go to Chicago I think about going to a Sox game, then I quickly come to my senses. As going to a ballgame is fun, but not worth your life. I would not even stop my car at a stop sign in some parts of the southside of Chicago, much less spend time going to a ballgame. Yes, come one, come all, to beautiful Comiskey Park. Unless it's a windy day, because that means the city doesn't allow them to seat you in the upper deck. So yeah, the White Sox suck. Go ahead, bash the shady "ticket brokers," I'll just bash the shady "gimme $20 to make sure your car is safe" guys on your side of town. Sorry guys, but Wrigley Field casts a shadow that's eight miles long, going south, and you're in it. But I wish them all the best. I really do. Because this World Series has gotta have some color of stockings in it for the AL. AND ANOTHER THING: What the HELL is with the All-Star Game promos using Blues Brothers music for a game in HOUSTON?? We just had the game in Chicago last year, why didn't you use it then? Granted, it was "The Cell" but still! Houston does not = Blues Brothers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 I thought those of you outside Chicago might get a kick out of this. New White Sox marketing chief Brooks Boyer can't re-sign Magglio Ordonez, anoint a fifth starter or engineer a deal for Carlos Beltran. . Is that even in his job description? Why would they take shots at him for that? Anyway, it's a cute ad that's fun and not really mean spirited at all. And it pokes fun at the Sox themselves, making it probably one of the more clever ads in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The Jimy Williams string of weird lineups continues as Mike Lamb started at second base for the Astros tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 I think second is his best position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The fact that the Os have walked 13 batters tonight pisses me off. And the fact they just left the bases loaded after loading them up with only 1 out doesn't make me feel any better either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The fact that Prinz walked three pisses me off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Flash - ah - saviour of the universe Flash - ah - he’ll save ev’ry one of us Seemingly there is no reason for these Extraordinary intergalactical upsets (ha ha ha) What’s happening flash? Only dr hans zarkov formerly at n a s a Has provided any explanation Flash - ah - he’s a miracle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The A's are just a disaster on the road. Tonight Tim Hudson, A.L. Cy Young candidate, takes on Bartolo Colon, fat man with a 6+ ERA, and what happens? Well into the fifth Hudson is getting completely shelled and Colon is pitching a gem. If they can't comeback tonight (down 5-0) they will have lost 10 of 11 and 12 of 14 on the road. Since last year they will be 10 games under .500 on the road as compared to 47 games over .500 at home. Sure it's natural to expect a team to be better at home than on the road but this is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) The A's are just a disaster on the road. Tonight Tim Hudson, A.L. Cy Young candidate, takes on Bartolo Colon, fat man with a 6+ ERA, and what happens? Well into the fifth Hudson is getting completely shelled and Colon is pitching a gem. If they can't comeback tonight (down 5-0) You're getting shutout by Tubby? BWAHAHAHAHAHA Perhaps I should be quiet, as my yankees have shocked me against horrible pitching this year, and Sidney Fat-son (Thanks Marvin) is coming up. On the home-road thing, when is baseball just gonna give in and let the Yankees wear the Pinstripes at Camden Yards? I already refer to those games as home games. Edited June 23, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Wow, the Cubs are really coming to life now. 9 of our last 10, and our season series lead over the Cards moves to 2 games, one game back of the best record in the NL and 10 games over .500. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Wow, the Cubs are really coming to life now. 9 of our last 10, and our season series lead over the Cards moves to 2 games, one game back of the best record in the NL and 10 games over .500. Sure, the Cubbies come to live just as I pick my new World Series hopeful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The Jason Grimsley deal has me shaking my head. The Orioles are not winning anything this year, and bullpen help is the last piece of a championship puzzle, not the first. The Orioles panicked, and it may cost them dearly. I agree 100% here. The Orioles' bullpen problems have been their own fault, since they stupidly brought in scrubs like Mike DeJean, who's blown almost every lead he's been handed this year. If Grimsley were a good pitcher, I still wouldn't understand the move. The Orioles got fleeced, plain and simple. "If he [bautista] avoids injuries, he could develop into a number one starter." -John Sickels' Baseball Prospect Book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The O's are just a hideous baseball team this year, perhaps moreso than the last five or so years. Not only have the O's been playing bad baseball against My Yankees this year, but the games get ludicrously boring, because these two teams seemingly can't play a nice, snap snap game. Even the short games drag. I was screaming in the 8th inning for the fucking game to just end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites