WWE Title At It's Most Worthless State Ever?

[Guest Junkyard Willie]

I remember when I was a kid I used to idolize IC Champ Ricky Steamboat more than the hulkster, just because the belt looked cooler and Steamboat actually put on entertaining matches. But there wasn't any question that Hogan's belt was the most sought after prize in all of wrestling.

 

It's really an unbelievable shame that Bradshaw....will be mentioned in the same line of champions like Bruno, Bret, Flair, Austin, the Rock.......

 

Bradshaw.....

 

 

Even when Vince was champ, at least it seemed like a disastrous fluke and a temporary blemish. Now....someone who isn't over in the slightest is champion. He's not a fallen champ like the Big Show....he's.........a horrible worker with no charisma nor heat.....

 

Has the title ever been worth less? Has it ever been "worthless?" No, and, as of right now, yes.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

The finish was equally as weak as the person currently carrying the title belt.

 

Total balls, but what do you expect from SD these days?

 

UYI

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I remember when I was a kid I used to idolize IC Champ Ricky Steamboat more than the hulkster, just because the belt looked cooler and Steamboat actually put on entertaining matches. But there wasn't any question that Hogan's belt was the most sought after prize in all of wrestling.

 

It's really an unbelievable shame that Bradshaw....will be mentioned in the same line of champions like Bruno, Bret, Flair, Austin, the Rock.......

 

Bradshaw.....

 

 

Even when Vince was champ, at least it seemed like a disastrous fluke and a temporary blemish. Now....someone who isn't over in the slightest is champion. He's not a fallen champ like the Big Show....he's.........a horrible worker with no charisma nor heat.....

 

Has the title ever been worth less? Has it ever been "worthless?" No, and, as of right now, yes.

Bradshaw is a disastrous fluke. That's all.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I'd say maybe, not because who is the champion, but because of how many people _want_ to be champion. Which is to say, 1. Eddie will be chasing, which could make it more important, but there are no upper carders left. They killed off any potential Cena had, Taker is too busy in the tag division (?), and thats about it.

[Eclipse 0]

Yep, this thread should be right. At least Eddie gave it a bit of credibility. I missed this PPV, being scared that my eyes would have to see a title change, but man, the title change was crappy. I knew Angle would have something to do with it...

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I'd say maybe, not because who is the champion, but because of how many people _want_ to be champion. Which is to say, 1. Eddie will be chasing, which could make it more important, but there are no upper carders left. They killed off any potential Cena had, Taker is too busy in the tag division (?), and thats about it.

Taker's not in the tag division. He's the next challenger to the title, once the JBL/Eddie saga ends.

[chaosrage 0]

Bradshaw is the champion?? Fuck.. I didn't even know there was a PPV tonight.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

I didn't order the show. Can anyone here give me a fair analysis of the match? Better than Judgement Day?

 

UYI

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

But... he faced the tag champs...

[Kizzo 0]

As I've stated in a thread already...this is the slow death of Smackdown...and to have Bradshaw mention in the same sentence as Hulk Hogan...Savage...Flair...Steve Austin...The Rock...Triple H and then ...BRADSHAW...of holding the world's title is just not RIGHT...

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

But... he faced the tag champs...

In a handicapped match with no bearing on Taker's placement in the tag division nor with the tag titles on the line...

 

 

It's the same thing as if Sable faced Bradshaw. Does this mean Sable is in the WWE Title scene? No.

[geniusMoment 0]

I always looked at the belt as a mere prop, wrestling is fake and therefore I look at wrestling in eras:

The Hogan era

The Flair/Bret then all Bret era

The HBK era

The Stone Cold era

The Rock/HHH era

And finally the HHH era

 

In my opinion those were the guys pushed, or cared about the most, since the 1980s. Right now I consider a transition period, much like with Nash in the mid 90s or Savage in the 80s or Sid/Undertaker in 96-97. All of those men held belts but none were considered the biggest stars during their reign.

[Krankor 0]

Bradshaw is a disgrace to that title belt. It might take a year for that title to have a point again.

[BX 0]

Bye Nemesis.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

But it does put him in a mid-card position and FAR away from the World title.

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You know what made it the worst? The fact that Eddie didn't even lose the fucking title in the main event.

 

You mean to tell me you attraction is the DUDs and The Undertaker!? Where as your WWE Championship match isn't even the main event.

 

That really shows you how much the title has fallen.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

But it does put him in a mid-card position and FAR away from the World title.

Actually his match was the main event.

 

 

And even so, he won't stay there for long.

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You know what made it the worst? The fact that Eddie didn't even lose the fucking title in the main event.

 

You mean to tell me you attraction is the DUDs and The Undertaker!? Where as your WWE Championship match isn't even the main event.

 

That really shows you how much the title has fallen.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

When will people learn...the Main Event is the match that is promoted most, is the one used to sell tickets, and one used for just about anything to do with the show.

 

The ONLY reason UT/Duds went last because of the Paul Bearer thing.

 

Eddie/Bradshaw had 3 months of hype into this feud. It got more air time, and was promoted heavily.

 

UT/Dudleyz wasn't even know about until 10 days ago.

[tekcop 0]

Taker/Dudleys as the main event was bullshit. As for JBL as champ, he's no worse, than say... HHH in '99, Slaughter in 'whateveryear, or Big Show in '02.

[Australian Pride 0]

I dont know why everyone is getting so upset about JBL as World Champ. Yes, he does suck in the ring, but there are several bright sides to the equation:

 

1) JBL can cut a decent promo, and having the title will give him some much needed credibility to back it up.

 

2) Eddie's title chase has to be more entertaining than JBL's. Eddie was getting a bit stale going into the Bash, but now he (and his popularity) should be revitalised.

 

3) If/when Eddie does win the title back it will make him look even better. Every champion has to lose at some stage, and the second title run is the one that proves they really are the top man.

[iliketurtles 0]

Big Show '02 > Slaughter > Vince McMahon > JBL as WWE Champion.

 

BRADSHAW. APA. JUSTIN HAWK. IS WWE CHAMPION.

 

I refuse to even ackonwledge Smackdown exists from this point unless Angle starts wrestling again. Oh, and don't even get me started on them killing Paul Bearer too all in one night.

[SuperJerk 0]

The WWE Title, with all of its lineage, has been handed to someone with no talent, past their prime, and will not draw.

 

Let's consider, momentarily, all of the deserving men who were denied the WWWFE Title over the years, all of whom would have been more deserving than Bradshaw.

 

Sure, there have been some flukes before, but with those I could at least understand why they were given the chance. I just don't see that with Bradshaw.

 

In no particular order:

Roddy Piper

Davey Boy Smith

Chris Benoit

Vader

Rob Van Dam

Booker T

Edge

Scott Hall

Tito Santana

Mr. Perfect

Ted DiBiase

Jeff Jarrett

Scott Steiner

Terry Funk

Diamond Dallas Page

Pat Patterson

Jimmy Snuka

Jesse Ventura

The Dynamite Kid

Owen Hart

Ricky Fucking Steamboat

 

I'm sure I'll think of about ten other guys who've worked for McMahon that'd were found "not worthy" for whatever bullshit reason.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

But Takers objective hasn't been "I want to get the World Title" - he hasn't really had any motivation at all expect "Oh no, they've got my urn". Which is the whole _point_. It's not about who holds the title, its about who wants the title. And for Taker, to just "jump up" to a title shot after not wanting it for the past few months doesn't make sense.

[iggymcfly 0]

Taker/Dudleys as the main event was bullshit. As for JBL as champ, he's no worse, than say... HHH in '99, Slaughter in 'whateveryear, or Big Show in '02.

Bull fucking shit. When HHH won the title in '99, he'd been a solid second-tier player for years. He'd ended Rock's long IC Title reign a year earlier so that Rock could get the WWF title. He'd even got screwed out of the title on Raw about 8 or 9 months before. He bided his time in the upper midcard and then had a very solid storyline going into winning the belt.

 

Bradshaw meanwhile came absolutely out of nowhere. He was toward the bottom of the tag division, then he got taken off TV because he was so inconsequential that creative had nothing for him to do. Then, he wins the title in his first feud back. I don't think he'd had a PPV win in about a year, or a singles PPV win in recent memory.

 

At least when Vince won the title, it was with the storyline that he controlled the company, and with outside interference from a stunner. You could even argue that Vince had been built up more as a wrestler than Bradshaw before winning the belt, as he had won the Royal Rumble, main evented at St. Valentine's Day Massacre, and won the main event at King of the Ring that year.

 

Bradshaw is THE worst champion in the history of the WWF/WWE Title.

[Guest Choken One]

Terry Funk shouldn't be on that list mainly because he was only with the company for like 8 months at the longest.

 

Beside he already was a Former World Champion...

 

Edge? Your liste loses all it's creditbility right there...he was and never has been ready for a run.

 

Tito Santana? That's reaching now man.

 

DDP was 53 and injured up the ass when he came to WWE.

 

Jesse might have gotten a run as he was gonna do the main event program with Hogan...but he got sick and lost that shot...

 

Scott Steiner of 2003 isn't the steiner of 1992...no reason for him to be on that list.

 

Jeff Jarrett? JEFF FUCKING JARRETT? are you fucking serious?!?

 

Don't ever make a list again.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Roddy Piper

Davey Boy Smith

Chris Benoit

Vader

Rob Van Dam

Booker T

Edge

Scott Hall

Tito Santana

Mr. Perfect

Ted DiBiase

Jeff Jarrett

Scott Steiner

Terry Funk

Diamond Dallas Page

Pat Patterson

Jimmy Snuka

Jesse Ventura

The Dynamite Kid

Owen Hart

Ricky Fucking Steamboat

All of these guys are infinitely better than Bradshaw. But wrestling has changed. Its not as competitive as it once was. There isn't the vast talent pools that the 80's promotions had for Vince to raid. Thats gone. I find it most sad that bradshaw has never been worth a damn. He was in a low rate, curtain jerking tag team for nearly 7 years before getting this ridiculous push. Never has he showed anyone any hints of being deserving of this "supposed" great honour.

 

Wrestling is dead, folks. Sadly, we're all pining for the olden days, not this McMahononized forms of "entertainment" something that will take years and years and years of repairing.

 

Shit, I said all this I haven't even gotten to the "death" of Paul Bearer.

 

I love how Vince brought Percy back for this sole purpose. One last "fuck you" for slagging his product a year ago.

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Well, I wouldn't say wrestling's dead. Raw still shows little hints of promise every now and then. The HHH/Benoit main event for Vengeance is even a little bit intriguing. However, the WWE Title as a credible, respected belt? That is deader than Paul Bearer. (As in six months from now it will still be dead. It can't just magically zap back to life.) Sure, they could make Smackdown an entertaining show again, and they could rebuild the title to make people care about it again, but it will never again mean what it once did.

 

As for saving Smackdown, it is possible, but it's not going to happen. They would need to bring someone in right away. (Rocky would be ideal, but Austin, Brock, Hogan, or even Foley would work.) They could say they were watching Smackdown, and they couldn't believe that a piece of shit like Bradshaw was holding the title they fought to get to their whole life. They take it as a personal affront to what they accomplished, and they want him tonight. Then, they could win the title on the spot, and go on to either a decent-sized run or to get destroyed by a heel Undertaker.

 

That might help people forget what happened tonight. Failing that, Eddie needs to get the belt back within the next two weeks to solidify that this was a fluke, but even that will let Bradshaw's reign sink in further. The way I see it, they made a terrible mistake that ruined their prized title, and they're pretty much fucked. They might as well write off the brand extension as a failure and have Bradshaw tap out clean to the Crippler Crossface on Raw tonight.

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Terry Funk shouldn't be on that list mainly because he was only with the company for like 8 months at the longest.

 

Beside he already was a Former World Champion...

Yeah, but even under those circumstances, he's more deserving than Bradshaw.

 

Edge? Your liste loses all it's creditbility right there...he was and never has been ready for a run.

No, he's not. But at one point, Edge was being groomed for a top spot, but those plans were shelved. Vince had the good sense to put the brakes on that, but lacked the good sense to put the brakes on Bradshaw. That's why I included him.

 

Tito Santana? That's reaching now man.

With the right gimmick, I could've seen him at least as a transitional champion.

 

DDP was 53 and injured up the ass when he came to WWE.

He was 45 in 2001.

 

Scott Steiner of 2003 isn't the steiner of 1992...no reason for him to be on that list.

My understanding was that Vince had a chance to grab him when WCW folded, but wasn't interested, so Steiner was good enough to drop the strap to Booker on the last Nitro. His look and mic skills could've been enough to get him over as champ, like they did in WCW.

 

Jeff Jarrett? JEFF FUCKING JARRETT? are you fucking serious?!?

While not the best champion, he's at least a beleivable World champion. JJ > JBL.

 

Don't ever make a list again.

Someone took their cranky pills.

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Atleast Bradshaw is a WRESTLER, and I use that term loosely here. They haven't hit WCW stupid just yet.