How long do you think the WWE will last?

[razazteca 0]

Without that presentation, WWE wouldn't be nearly as good and its flaws would be glaring to fans and stockholders.

Exactly.....when it comes to presentation...Kevin Dunn and his crew are top notch.....without that...WWE wouldn't be the same..

WWE can keep the pyro and the titan tron video screen but something has to be done with the props that are used once a month: electric chair, fist, hammer & sickle and various other expensive items.

 

How much did it cost to make the commercial of Brock Lesnar beating up teh shark? What a waste of money.

[Guest Choken One]

I doubt renting a small beach and getting about 50 extras and getting fake plastic shark really set the company back a pretty penny.

 

Those are ADVERTISEMENTS.

 

Pretty Important for the WWE to utilize.

[Promoter 0]

I know I hate wwe too. None of my friends even call it that. They still say wwf(the ones who still watch anyways ). I mean couldn't Vince come up with a better name? The name just sounds dumb.

 

The company was known as World Wrestling Federation Entertainment.

 

They maintained the two most important parts of the Name.

 

WORLD-WRESTLING.

 

And it was a ENTERTAINMENT SHOW...not a federation anymore.

 

The name change was perfect...

 

It didn't change the name brand familarity at all for the common fan.

No, I understand this. It was World Wrestling Federation Entertainment and they took the F out. I even get the logo although a lot of people still see it as stupid as it doesn't really allude to wwe from a cosmetic viewpoint. Sometimes I still think some call it wwf. One time I remember someone from ESPN asking what the hell wwe was. I don't think it changed over too well to be honest as in some video stores it is sometimes on the shelf under world wrestling without the entertainment part and this is 2 years later. Maybe with hardcores in transfered well, but not with the casuals who I believe still refer to it as the wwf. I still think Vince was a dumbass over losing his wwf name. The wwe logo actually looks like www. Maybe world wide wrestling. Actually, who thinks a change over in name without the Mcmahons would give a different outlook that would differentiate this company from all the negative aspects associated with the old wwe attitude era? Then again, all the good would be gone too.

[tommytomlin 0]

How much did it cost to make the commercial of Brock Lesnar beating up teh shark? What a waste of money.

So WWE advertising their product is going to cause their downfall?

 

O-KAY.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Whenever Vince dies + 10 years.

 

Try whenever Stephanie dies + 10 years. This company is going nowhere any time soon.

 

Even if they repeatedly duplicated their worst ever year, every year, they'd still be around for another 60 or 70 years.

[Promoter 0]

Okay, so I guess this question is invalid since most of us won't be here I should guess

[Guest BurnToShine]

Didn't WWE post a sizeable quarter profit just a couple weeks ago?

Ding ding ding.

 

WWE has made a profit on wrestling every quarter since the end of 1997. I believe they had ONE money-losing quarter during that time, which was due to the losses they ate when The World was closed.

 

The only thing that could potentially kill WWE is the same thing that killed WCW: Loss of television. Given Spike TV's stellar ratings patterns, I don't see that happening any year soon.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

HHH is smart enough not to run it into bankruptcy as long as he has a say, and of course, so is Vince. However, if Vince dies and HHH goes Hollywood or gets divorced, I don't trust the kiddies at all, especially Stephanie. Anyways, since Vince isn't even 60 yet, it is a long ways off.

[Kizzo 0]

The only thing that could potentially kill WWE is the same thing that killed WCW: Loss of television. Given Spike TV's stellar ratings patterns, I don't see that happening any year soon.

You really think Viacom is going to continue to pay WWE 500K a week for 3's in ratings...when they are suppose to be in the 5's and low 6's.....the only reason Viacom wanted WWE in the first place...was because of the high ratings the company got on USA Network...and they would use the sucess of the WWE to help the network they just bought the Nashville Network out....

 

If WWE wants to remain on Spike TV...I expect a decrease in Viacom's payment....maybe to like 100K or 200K.....

[Guest BurnToShine]

The only thing that could potentially kill WWE is the same thing that killed WCW:  Loss of television.  Given Spike TV's stellar ratings patterns, I don't see that happening any year soon.

You really think Viacom is going to continue to pay WWE 500K a week for 3's in ratings...when they are suppose to be in the 5's and low 6's.....the only reason Viacom wanted WWE in the first place...was because of the high ratings the company got on USA Network...and they would use the sucess of the WWE to help the network they just bought the Nashville Network out....

 

If WWE wants to remain on Spike TV...I expect a decrease in Viacom's payment....maybe to like 100K or 200K.....

Did I say anything about how much Viacom would pay for the programming? I simply said WWE would not lose its television on Spike TV. And it won't.

[razazteca 0]

How much did it cost to make the commercial of Brock Lesnar beating up teh shark?  What a waste of money.

So WWE advertising their product is going to cause their downfall?

 

O-KAY.

The proper way to advertise the PPVs would be making Desire videos or having the guy with the movie-phone voice do build-ups for the matches. Not making pointless on location commercials of "talent" playing on the beach.

[Promoter 0]

Damn wwe gets 500 K for each show every week? You guys are sure? That's pretty steep. I also do notice that the station doesn't pimp the wwe anywhere close to what they were upon arrival.

[cynicalprofit 0]

After Shane and Steph get through with daddy's toy, I think that will be the end of the comapny. I mean we can't see the future, but I've got a feeling their kids won't want to play with their g-pa's toy. But thats truely just theory.

[griffinmills 0]

Folks, Viacom posts profits in Billions of dollars as in multi-billion dollars. For a small sample of their profits (from I believe 2003) check

http://bth.broadcastengineering.com/ar/bro...m_makes_profit/

and they are constantly meeting or exceeding their growth predictions on that.

So if they want to spend 25 million a year subsidizing RAW they can afford it. Hell they could afford to spend 40 times that at 1 billion dollars!

As for THE (heh heh) WWE staying in buisness, they have BARELY tightened their belts in recent years. Their model of paying wrestlers (downsides and profit sharing) is very flexible and helps in this. Not to mention they have tons of untapped money in DVD sales alone with their, now even vaster, tape library.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Wrestling Trolls=Illinois Nazis.

[Guest INXS]

I don't see the company going bankrupt anytime soon - they are making vast amounts of profit each quarter.

[AndrewTS 0]

After Shane and Steph get through with daddy's toy, I think that will be the end of the comapny. I mean we can't see the future, but I've got a feeling their kids won't want to play with their g-pa's toy. But thats truely just theory.

I agree that WWE will die in the third generation unless Shane and Steph turn over control of WWE to a group of persons very knowledgable about the business who are in touch with the viewing audiences.

 

Shane doesn't have a clue how to run WWE and doesn't want to. Steph, completely unfettered by Vince's supervision, is a disaster waiting to happen, because we saw what happened when she took control.

 

Of course, HHH will probably end up being the one to actually be the head of operations for the company once he retires. Having him in charge has its advantages and disadvantages, but he would at least have a far better chance of keeping the ship righted and smoothly sailing than either of Vince's kids.

 

Even if they repeatedly duplicated their worst ever year, every year, they'd still be around for another 60 or 70 years.

 

If ratings dropped low enough for Spike and UPN to drop their respective shows, WWE would last a lot longer still?

 

EDIT: Some one said it already.

[Guest UncleJesseMark]

The WWE will last forever. At least for the rest of most of our lifetimes. This isn't me being what you people call "a mark" it's me being optimistic about something I love. So, yeah, the company may run into a rough bump or 2 but, I think it will always be around in one way or another

[Kizzo 0]

Folks, Viacom posts profits in Billions of dollars as in multi-billion dollars. For a small sample of their profits (from I believe 2003) check

http://bth.broadcastengineering.com/ar/bro...m_makes_profit/

and they are constantly meeting or exceeding their growth predictions on that.

So if they want to spend 25 million a year subsidizing RAW they can afford it. Hell they could afford to spend 40 times that at 1 billion dollars!

As for THE (heh heh) WWE staying in buisness, they have BARELY tightened their belts in recent years. Their model of paying wrestlers (downsides and profit sharing) is very flexible and helps in this. Not to mention they have tons of untapped money in DVD sales alone with their, now even vaster, tape library.

I know Viacom can afford it.....hell they can afford to pay them 1 million a week if they want too.....but the price Viacom paid....isnt' the ratings the WWE is getting now.....that's all I'm stating..

[Guest TheHulkster]

The only thing that could potentially kill WWE is the same thing that killed WCW:  Loss of television.  Given Spike TV's stellar ratings patterns, I don't see that happening any year soon.

You really think Viacom is going to continue to pay WWE 500K a week for 3's in ratings...when they are suppose to be in the 5's and low 6's.....the only reason Viacom wanted WWE in the first place...was because of the high ratings the company got on USA Network...and they would use the sucess of the WWE to help the network they just bought the Nashville Network out....

 

If WWE wants to remain on Spike TV...I expect a decrease in Viacom's payment....maybe to like 100K or 200K.....

What show on SpikeTV gets anywhere close to 3-4 ratings consistantly? What shows on cable in general get that consistantly except for maybe a couple insanely popular children's shows and sporting events? You're looking at several million 18-24 year old males, the demographic that burns the most cash, watching primarily one show (except during football season) on Monday nights. That kind of ad revenue makes the WWE extremely lucrative for Viacom.

[Guest news_gimmick]

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[Jobber of the Week 0]

HHH is smart enough not to run it into bankruptcy

Sorry Ramsus, but I think Mr "what's so bad about steroids, it's not like they're heroin" is going to be able to keep his head above water.

 

Vince times his media stunt circus crap and his attempts at OMGSERIOUS business enterprises so that one happens before the other and nobody knows whether Vince is trying to be a colorful carny or a real mogul and he's dodged a lot of bullets because of that.

 

But even Vince is not stupid enough to say to the public that steroids have been given a bad rap.

[cynicalprofit 0]

Of course, HHH will probably end up being the one to actually be the head of operations for the company once he retires. Having him in charge has its advantages and disadvantages, but he would at least have a far better chance of keeping the ship righted and smoothly sailing than either of Vince's kids.

I think he'd more likely Hogan/Gange it adn have the belt on himself way past his prime and just keep spending untill theres nothing left to spend.

[David Blazenwing 0]

Ready To Rumble was one of the many things that brought WCW to its grave.

Hey! I own that movie on DVD! It rocks!

[Guest bigm350]

When Vince dies and HHH, Steph, and Shane take over I think the WWE will be alright. I don't think HHH will bury the product in the ground. HHH is a smartmark at heart and I think he would be promoting some good old school angles and programs.

[Guest Choken One]

there is the problem...If HHH tries to make it old school...It will be a drastic change for the WWE.

 

I could see him completely reverting to the Ric Flair NWA style and that could drastically effect the company in more then many ways.

[Guest bigm350]

there is the problem...If HHH tries to make it old school...It will be a drastic change for the WWE.

 

I could see him completely reverting to the Ric Flair NWA style and that could drastically effect the company in more then many ways.

Yeah, it might not look good for the futuristic look of the sets and everything but we would probably get some good matches if good workers were pushed.

[Guest darkquack]

as long as i buy these crappy ppvs wwe will stay alive. i bet somehow mick foley will marry linda and take over when vince dies.