Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 What in the hell was that? WHAT IN THE FUCKING HELL WAS THAT? I'm doing my best to put this behind me. SOMEONE PLEASE help me put a one hit complete game shutout by Mike Moroth behind me. Please. Anyone? I just don't understand this team. I don't fucking get it. Forget Pedro, Schilling or Johnson The Yankees better hope they never see a rotation of Moroth, Weaver Sparks, Lima and that one Oriole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 For god sakes just shut the fuck up. You've singlehandedly managed to ruin all intelligent conversation on this forum for the sake of bitching about a first place team. Nobody gives a damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 A first place team that isn't going to win shit. When you can't hit the Pedros and Schillings of the world and you can't hit the Paul Abbots and Mike Moroths, your options are kind of limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The Yankees better hope they never see a rotation of Moroth, Weaver Sparks, Lima and that one Oriole. In 2002, the Tiger rotation was Mark Redman, Mike Maroth, Jeff Weaver, Steve Sparks and Jose Lima. The Yankees beat them in 8 out of 9 games The only game the Tigers won was had Yankee-killer Brian Powell starting and Franklyn German getting the win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Is there ANY center fielder more annoying then Jim Edmonds? I swear he's Peter Parker in diguise. He makes stupid catches that NO HUMAN should be allowed to make. With that, The Graves blown 5-2 lead is a 7-5 win for the cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The Yankees better hope they never see a rotation of Moroth, Weaver Sparks, Lima and that one Oriole. In 2002, the Tiger rotation was Mark Redman, Mike Maroth, Jeff Weaver, Steve Sparks and Jose Lima. The Yankees beat them in 8 out of 9 games The only game the Tigers won was had Yankee-killer Brian Powell starting and Franklyn German getting the win But that wasn't the OHMYGODMURDERERSROW Yankees that are supposed to hit anything with a pulse. The two teams are actually much different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Is there ANY center fielder more annoying then Jim Edmonds? I swear he's Peter Parker in diguise. He makes stupid catches that NO HUMAN should be allowed to make. With that, The Graves blown 5-2 lead is a 7-5 win for the cards. Andruw Jones, but that's from the perspective of a Phillies fan. When someone hits the ball to center against the Braves, I know its not landing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The Yankees better hope they never see a rotation of Moroth, Weaver Sparks, Lima and that one Oriole. In 2002, the Tiger rotation was Mark Redman, Mike Maroth, Jeff Weaver, Steve Sparks and Jose Lima. The Yankees beat them in 8 out of 9 games The only game the Tigers won was had Yankee-killer Brian Powell starting and Franklyn German getting the win But that wasn't the OHMYGODMURDERERSROW Yankees that are supposed to hit anything with a pulse. The two teams are actually much different. Yeah, the 2002 Yankees only won 103 games The 2004 Yankees are on pace to win 102 games. Infield-wise, the 2002 Yankees were better (Giambi/Jeter/Soriano/Ventura) Outfield-wise, Sheffield/Williams/Matsui beats Williams/White/VanderWal/Spencer/Mondesi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The Yankees better hope they never see a rotation of Moroth, Weaver Sparks, Lima and that one Oriole. In 2002, the Tiger rotation was Mark Redman, Mike Maroth, Jeff Weaver, Steve Sparks and Jose Lima. The Yankees beat them in 8 out of 9 games The only game the Tigers won was had Yankee-killer Brian Powell starting and Franklyn German getting the win But that wasn't the OHMYGODMURDERERSROW Yankees that are supposed to hit anything with a pulse. The two teams are actually much different. Yeah, the 2002 Yankees only won 103 games The 2004 Yankees are on pace to win 102 games. Infield-wise, the 2002 Yankees were better (Giambi/Jeter/Soriano/Ventura) I blame Giambi's absolute collapse. Rodriguez is better than Ventura, Cairo is doing better than he has any right to and jeter is approaching Jeter levels again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 meanwhile in the minors- Mike Schultz’ day: 1 inning, 3 hits, 1 HBP, 5 K, 2 WP, 5 unearned runs and one other bit of info from BaseballAmerica: First, Latin American players who are ready to come to the United States haven't been able to get in. The Cubs, for example, wanted to bring 25-year-old lefthander Raul Valdez to the U.S. but had to leave him in the Dominican instead. He's pitching in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League and overmatched teenagers by striking out 20 in seven innings in one outing. Normally he wouldn't even be able to play in the DSL, but Major League Baseball relaxed age and service time restrictions for short-season leagues to cope with the problem. http://www.dominicansummerleague.com/english/pressroom.htm LAS AMERICAS, (July 06), - Cuban Raul Valdez striked out twenty players in seven entrances in the shut out of Chicago, 7-0 over Cincinnati in the Esat division of the Dominican Summer League. Johanny Cueto lost, whereas Jonathan Mota hitted three hits for the Cubs. Valdez came last year from cuba to pitch in Santiago’s olympic games and later, in the winter, for the Giants of Cibao. That was his first professional presentation.His winter last game was in the Final Series against the Licey, January 23, striking out two with two clean runs in 4.2 entraces. There his mark was 1-0 in two games, with five bases by balls, in 7.2 entrances with seven hits allowed. This summer, in the league of novices, he is leader in strike outs with 69 and effectiveness with 0.00. Puppies find in him their only light, since they have mark of 9-19 in the fifth position to 8,5 in the East division of Santo Domingo. After yesterday’s victory he presents a 3-0 mark in five games with 37,1 entrances pitched. During that period they have given twelve hits, with tenruns, five cleanings, five bases and 69 strike outs. Valdez in the DSL: 8 games, 3-1, 0.20 ERA, 44 1/3 innings, 16 hits, 3 runs (1 earned run allowed), 5 walks/79 strikeouts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/17/sports/b...ll/17yanks.html INSIDE PITCH Commissioner Bud Selig appeared at Comerica Park to unveil the logo for the 2005 All-Star Game, to be hosted by the Tigers. Asked why he did not fine the Yankees' principal owner, George Steinbrenner, for tampering after Steinbrenner made a public plea for Randy Johnson, Selig said: "It wasn't tampering. You know tampering when you see it." Steinbrenner, a frequent adversary of Selig's, issued a supportive statement as Selig contemplates his future. "He's done a sensational job as commissioner," Steinbrenner said. The statement concluded, "I, for one, urge Bud to stay. We couldn't hope to do better." [/b] Steinbrenner was promptly struck by lightning. Witnesses claim to have heard a disembodied voice say "You probably had that coming anyway, but I just couldn't let that comment go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Unreal catch, LaRue drilled that ball, it really had no business staying in the park, and the crowd emptied after that, well besides those that stuck around after the 5 run 8th inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted July 17, 2004 MRI reveals stress fracture Chicago White Sox designated hitter Frank Thomas is expected to miss eight weeks with a broken bone in his left foot. Thomas is hitting .271 with 18 homers and 49 RBIs this season. The two-time AL MVP led the league with 64 walks and a .434 on-base percentage entering the weekend. Thomas was placed on the disabled list July 10 with inflammation in his ankle, but an MRI taken in Las Vegas this week revealed a stress fracture in his foot, the team said Friday. "We're going to miss one of the best hitters in the game the last few years, but we have to deal with it," Chicago manager Ozzie Guillen said. No surgery will be necessary, but Dr. Lowell Weil, Chicago's team podiatrist, recommended immobilizing Thomas' foot. Thomas will undergo additional tests in four weeks, but probably won't return before the final weeks of the regular season. The White Sox first noticed Thomas' injury when he was unable to start at first base during an interleague series against the Chicago Cubs earlier this month. He last played on July 6 against Anaheim. It's the second major injury blow to Chicago's offense this season, coming shortly after Magglio Ordonez returned from a 37-game absence with torn cartilage in his left knee. Ordonez and several teammates will attempt to replace Thomas' power numbers, and the injury also might spur the White Sox to go after another hitter before the July 31 trade deadline. Chicago (46-40) is in a tight race in the AL Central, leading the Minnesota Twins (47-42) by a half-game. Thomas is sixth among active players with 436 career homers. He missed all but 20 games of the 2001 season after tearing his right triceps, but had been mostly healthy for the past 2½ seasons. He had 42 homers and 105 RBIs last season. Ordonez was Chicago's designated hitter in a 5-1 loss to the Oakland Athletics on Friday night. As much as that hurts Chicago, this next bit hurts the Yankees even more Mussina can come off July 22 The New York Yankees have one more reason to want Randy Johnson. Mike Mussina went on the disabled list with a sore right elbow Friday, two days before he was scheduled to return to the rotation. Mussina said he woke up Friday with the elbow so stiff he couldn't touch his right shoulder. The right-hander thinks he tweaked it while batting in an interleague game against the New York Mets earlier this month. "They decided I'm not going to pitch Sunday because of how I feel," Mussina said before New York played at Detroit. Mussina, who has fluid in his elbow, will be eligible to come off the DL on July 22. Alex Graman was recalled from Triple-A Columbus to take his roster spot. With Mussina's setback and Kevin Brown coming off a rough outing at Double-A Trenton on Thursday, the Yankees may be more motivated to make a move for pitching help by the July 31 trade deadline. Brown has been out since June 10 with a strained back and intestinal parasite. But if Johnson joined the Yankees, he would most likely push their payroll to nearly $200 million. Would that be good for the game? "I'm not going to make that judgment call," Selig said. "I understand how fans feel, and it's a very fair question. But I'm worried more about the overall trend, and I'm very happy with the year the sport is having. I'm happy with the economic landscape changing as dramatically as it has. "And the Diamondbacks haven't done anything yet, with anybody. I've read, that's my source, that they may be talking to four or five clubs. So, let's see how it all plays out." Arizona has called teams to see who -- besides the Yankees -- is ready to trade for him. The Yankees officially told Diamondbacks general manager Joe Garagiola Jr. on Wednesday that they'd like to have him. Boston, Anaheim and the Chicago White Sox are among the other clubs expected to make a pitch for the five-time Cy Young winner. Not only did Kevin Brown leave after getting roughed up but the guys on the local sports cast said he left the start with stiffness in his back. From everything I've read it looks like RJ either stays in Arizona or goes to Anaheim at this point. Only thing is if he did go to Anaheim they would have to find somebody to take Ramon Ortiz and because of the amount he's making it doesn't appear as though many want him. With the Yankees not having enough to give Arizona for RJ, Theo's focus staying in building the org from within and not giving up big prospects for rentals or 2 year players along with killing the Nomar trade rumors yesterday, Anaheim's roster and payroll limitations, and the Cardinals not willing to add payroll it looks like RJ stays put. He could always go to the Cubs if Prior is out for an extended amount of time, but they need offense and bullpen help more than starting pitching right now. Anyways it doesn't look like the Yankees will see Mussina or Brown for awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The good news for the Yankees is that the Diamondbacks don't really need majors-ready prospects, since the're such a total shitfest right now. And as for Thomas, I will mumble several expletives. By the way Joe Borchard will replace Frank as DH. Guess who would have come up ahead of him. Yeah, the guy we traded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 17, 2004 This might be an outlandish question but could the Yankees just ship one of their other High Paid players to Arizona? I'm sure AS has no problems with Giambi being shipped. It appears as if RJ is sticking put in 'Zona...although I'm still expecting him to shock people and sign with a team no really expected...Like Atlanta or The Dodgers. No reason why, I just have this funny feeling Johnson ends up "swerving" the Angels, Sox and Yanks for a team no one was looking at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Not only did Kevin Brown leave after getting roughed up but the guys on the local sports cast said he left the start with stiffness in his back The AA Trenton start? Wow, that would just be flat out lying through their teeth and ignoring everything said by Brown, Cashman, and anyone else in the know on the situation. Of course, I don't doubt that they said that. And somehow, I'm sure we'll get over losing Messina. That Alex Graman can go out there and fall apart just as well as Mike Mussina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The good news for the Yankees is that the Diamondbacks don't really need majors-ready prospects, since the're such a total shitfest right now. Which is why they want young, cheap, Major League ready players This might be an outlandish question but could the Yankees just ship one of their other High Paid players to Arizona? Sure! Arizona would absolutely do that. I mean when a team is trying to cut payroll and gain younger, cheaper players they're main focus is to take on a contract even larger in Giambi's. Never post in this folder again. The AA Trenton start? Wow, that would just be flat out lying through their teeth and ignoring everything said by Brown, Cashman, and anyone else in the know on the situation. Well they showed a pitcher for Trenton who didn't look young walking off the mound with his head partially down in Trenton against the Portland SeaDogs. It was one of those shots that looks like it was taken from the top of the Stadium. They said it was Brown and he also had back discomfort. I'm only passing along what they said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 This might be an outlandish question but could the Yankees just ship one of their other High Paid players to Arizona? I'm sure AS has no problems with Giambi being shipped. . Those 12 million a year injury prone forever slumping defensive liabilities are in such high demand. If anyone on the actual team leaves, it will be Contreras. In the mean time, we'll just have to ride out this Giambi situation until he begins to start to look like the Oakland Jason. At which point, he'll promptly get hit by a bus or something, because that seems to be the pattern with him. Every time he starts to look good, some outrageous calamity strikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Well they showed a pitcher for Trenton who didn't look young walking off the mound with his head partially down in Trenton against the Portland SeaDogs. It was one of those shots that looks like it was taken from the top of the Stadium. They said it was Brown and he also had back discomfort. I'm only passing along what they said. Well, unless Brown is lying to everyone, or I'm misinterpreting "Feeling 100 % better" and "No pain or discomfort" they lied their asses off. Brown had no stamina or arm strength. A little different. And I don't hate David Ortiz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 And as for Thomas, I will mumble several expletives. By the way Joe Borchard will replace Frank as DH. Guess who would have come up ahead of him. Yeah, the guy we traded. So how about this for karma? You laugh at the Cubs about Mark Prior's injury, but it turns out he'll be fine while the Big Skirt's gonna miss 8 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 Going to the A's game today. Bad news, I have to see Mark Redman pitch and not Mark Mulder. Good news, I won't have to deal with Fox's horrible announcers and production by watching the game at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 That's a shame about Thomas and I say that with no sarcasm. I'm not a big Sox fan, but it was nice to see Frank bounce back from a couple of bad years that looked to be the end of his career. Now, he's basically done for the regular season, just when his team will need him most. As for today's baseball, the fact that it's Maddux vs. Sheets is the main reason I was upset that the Cubs couldn't muster a win yesterday. Maybe it's just me, but watching the Cubs in recent weeks, it seems that all of these injuries have gotten to them. Not because it's hurt their offense and defense, but just mentally, they seem to not be in it and appear lethargic. Like them or not, it's pretty amazing that they've managed to stay well above .500 after every big name they've had aside from Alou, went down at one point or another during the season. I don't think they're going to be in the race for the NL Central title, but if they can't get something to spark them, they won't be in the Wild Card chase either. I think a somewhat significant trade is needed, not to mention the obvious need to get Aramis Ramirez back in the lineup stat, as I think they've felt his absence more than they did for Wood, Prior or Sosa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 How many games do you guys think Ortiz will get? As many as Milton Bradley's four since the bat got so close to the umps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 I'll say somewhere in the six to eight games range. No more then ten. Still sucks that he's suspended, Ortiz is my favorite Red Sox and I won't be able to see him when I go to the Sox game Thursday. *Throws copy of Still We Believe:The Boston Red Sox Movie at AngleSault and runs away* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted July 17, 2004 You'll be able to see him. He'll appeal whatever length they give him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 *Throws copy of Still We Believe:The Boston Red Sox Movie at AngleSault and runs away* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 You'll be able to see him. He'll appeal whatever length they give him. You think he'll be able to cut half of the games he gets after the appeal, or will it be just one of those "playing until the appeal hearing". I am just not sure if he gets any games reduced due to how close the bats were to hitting the umps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The Boston Red Sox Movie was a documentary released in New England about the 2003 Boston Red Sox. It must've done well cause it was in theaters here for five or six weeks. It features a bunch of Red Sox fans and Bronson Arroyo crooning a tune. Overall I'd give the movie a six out of ten. A fairly decent but forgettable documentary. Now how many decent movies can you name with the Yankees in it? Ok there was Bang The Drum Slowly or Pride of the Yankees, and 61. But both Babe Ruth movies sucked! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 The Boston Red Sox Movie was a documentary released in New England about the 2003 Boston Red Sox. It must've done well cause it was in theaters here for five or six weeks. It features a bunch of Red Sox fans and Bronson Arroyo crooning a tune. Overall I'd give the movie a six out of ten. A fairly decent but forgettable documentary. Now how many decent movies can you name with the Yankees in it? Ok there was Bang The Drum Slowly or Pride of the Yankees, and 61. But both Babe Ruth movies sucked! ... Are you on drugs? You seem to be rambling about nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 17, 2004 You'll be able to see him. He'll appeal whatever length they give him. Did Ortiz really go as ballistic as they're saying? I don't think I've ever seen him angry. And was the call as bad as I've heard? The news I got was that the call itself wasn't hideous, but the ump was just awful all night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
