Top 3 wrestlers....

[AmazingRen 0]

These are the top 3 guys who have had more pushes than anybody, but still haven't made it to the top.

 

3. Albert- this guy has had alot of chances. From being with Droz, to being with Bossman, to being with T&A (they were a team for a long time and didn't even win the titles), to being a single wrestler, to being with the X-Factor, to being with Scotty 2 Hotty for a while, to being a single wrestler for a while with the name A-Train, and to being with Paul Heyman's group. All of that now look at where he's at

 

2. Test- he has had atleast 3000 pushes. Frst he started as a bodyguard, then he went to the Faction, then he went to the Union, then his biggest push came when he started dating Stephanie and that got him nowhere after the storyline ended, then he became the hardcore champion, then he became part of T&A, then he went back to a single wrestler, then he joined the WCW/ECW Invasion group where he became champs with Booker T and then he really got lost, then they tried to start a mini feud between him and the Rock, then he joined the Anti-Americans and that got him nowhere, then he became a single heel wrestler that later started being managed by Stacy, and finally he became partners with Scott Steiner.

 

1. Val Venis- I shouldn't even have to explain this one

[Exslade ZX 0]

Well...a lot of the stuff you mentioned aren't really much of pushes..if you're talking about the fact that they're not in the main event scene..Plus you have to have talent to back it up.

 

And no I dont need the JBL comments to come rolling in :|

[Guest wildpegasus]

I really wish they'd put A-Train into evolution. That way I'd get to see Benoit vs A-Train every week like I did last year.

 

WP -- Who really wishes Benoit was allowed to wrestle somebody that isn't in Evolution for a change.

[razazteca 0]

You should explain Val Venis.

[Guest Coffey]

Val Venis has had a lot of chances? What the fuck!? How has he had a lot of chances? Val Venis the character is a dead end gimmick. The Right to Censor was a parody. His single's push where Trish wanted to be his manager had the plug pulled on it. He filled in for an injured William Regal to team with Lance Storm and job on Sunday Night Heat to the Dudley Boyz. Chief Morley? Fired and embaressed.

 

Back when he first showed up and WWF was all about "attitude" with pornstars and pimps running around, Val Venis actually got over. Of course, it wasn't just because of his gimmick. He could actually talk and wrestler too.

 

Val's never had a decent shot at anything.

 

A-Train is underrated and under appreciated. Test was over and had a shot at pretty much anything after he beat Shane McMahon in the "love her or leave her match." Then Triple H came out and powerbombed him through the announce table and ended his career.

 

If anyone should be on that list, it should be Billy Gunn.

[razazteca 0]

Morley needs to throw somebodys book in the trash just like in the Mick Foley angle. Or make distastleful comments about the Flair book so that Evolution can have somebody new to beatup.

[AmazingRen 0]

Val's never had a decent shot at anything

He had a 2 month feud with Foley when Foley was a part of the Rock and Sock connection. He had a one night feud with Austin. He's held the Euro and IC titles and couldn't run with them. Hell he even had a WWE title shot against the Rock when he was part of RTC.

[Guest Coffey]

A one-night feud? There's no such thing. A one-time match maybe...in which he was fucking OBLITERATED.

 

Didn't run with the Euro or IC titles? Huh? Did you even watch WWF back then? Did you see Chyna & Jericho as CO-FUCKING-HOLDERS of the IC title?

 

A two-month feud with Foley? The same Foley that was in a tag team wrestling tag team matches.... Yeah, Val got time to shine there.

 

OMFG, he got a shot at The Rock when he was a part of the JOKE STABLE RTC...and was OBLITERATED again!

 

Yeah, Morley sure did get those chances all right.

 

Go back to lurking.

[Guest Anglesault]

Well, he nailed Test anyway.

[Guest Choken One]

A title shot and a handful of Mid-Card reign doesn't really mean much. Actually, It means fucking nothing at all.

 

Val Venis has consisitantly been the most underutilized worker on the roster since The End of the very well done Foley Angle.

 

A-Train hasn't had much pushes aside from the Upper Mid-Card run he had last year where he jobbed soundly to 'Taker and Benoit on a very consistant basis. Other then that, he's been wrongfully reduced to being a Tag Teamer or not even being on the card.

 

Test? He's had one significant push that really could have worked had HHH's ego not got in the wat. He's gotten some Tag Team Runs and short mid-card pushes using the standard cocky arrogant pretty boy prick gimmick.

 

Billy Gunn; People seem to think he gets pushes all the time and yet...He only had ONE real main event/upper card run. From 1993-1997 he was a tag teamer on a quasi successful run then from late 1996 to mid 1997, he was a low card jobber and then he joined forces with another low card jobber and formed on the most legendary tag teams ever...a run that last one year. After Road Dog and Billy Gunn seperated, Gunn had a mid-card I.C Title chase run that was for the most part, decent. Then they decided to give him a Main Event push. He had a summer program with the Rock that didn't work and he went right back to being a tag teamer again, leading up to the constroversial Billy and Chuck union. That's closest Billy Gunn will ever get to another push.

 

One Main Event Run, various multitudes of Mid-Card runs...that doesn't really mean he's been PUSHED.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

A-Train is God Awful. He's had a few "decent" matches, with Benoit and one with Kane, years ago.

 

Other than that, stop foolish yourself into believing he is a mobile, bump-taking "underrated" star.

 

He'd been carried to marginally good stuff a few times.

 

He doesn't make his opponents look better. He can't carry a match. He has an awful look. He has lame, generic mic skills. And he yells, a lot.

 

= He sucks

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Albert is bad... but he's like the best bad guy they have and his match with Jericho a few weeks ago was da fuckin bomb.

 

Here's the thing with guys like Gunn, Test, Holly, Venis, etc. They get repackaged and repushed a lot, but they're all half-hearted attempts where the WWE doesn't put any real HHH-99 effort into it.

[razazteca 0]

If the Val Venis as porn star and Rikishi the fatass are tired gimmicks then what do you call the hairy back Albert gimmick?

[Guest Choken One]

is that really a gimmick?

 

If anything, Albert needs to return to the leather pants and tank look again.

[razazteca 0]

I remember many Funaki vs Albert matches that had spots where Funaki would pull the back hair. And who can forget the "Shave Your Back" chants.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

As much as I hate A-Train/Albert, I did have an interest in some of his matches when he had the Black T-Shirt/Black Leather pants look with X-Factor, as the "enforcer".

 

He had a few decent bouts with Kane that were enjoyable. And I liked some of his high-impact stuff against the smaller workers that Credible/X-Pac would face (Hardys, Spike, Tajiri, Kidman).

 

I believe that WWE has completely given up on Albert. They have saddled him with no gimmick, no TV time, and an awful appearence. They're just using him as a "big" looking JTTS.

[Guest Choken One]

I remember many Funaki vs Albert matches that had spots where Funaki would pull the back hair. And who can forget the "Shave Your Back" chants.

Those are called comedy spots.

 

Kinda like when Hogan wore the wig and savage or whatever face would knock it off and mock him...

 

That's not a gimmick.

 

The fans chanting something doesn't make it his gimmick.

[Guest The Ultimate Fantasy]

Honestly if I did a top ten on my favorite wrestlers in the WWE, it would so have to be the A-Train why? Because he moves and has a awesome move set, he has 3 finishers (The Bicycle Kick, the A-bomb, and one of my favorites ever, The Train Wreck) plus none of all of these moves are not cliched like the typical hoss work. I mean come on, his only title win was after massive interference and it only lasted little more than a week where he lost to freakin Lance Storm.

[Guest Ray]

A-Train is God Awful.

Not really...

 

He has a nice moveset and can be good in short matches. He can/will bump big and he works hard when he gets a chance.

 

He doesn't make his opponents look better.

He bumped like a madman for Brock and Benoit when they wrestled. A big fat man bumping for a midget isn't making his opponent look good?

 

He can't carry a match.

Few wrestlers can truly carry a match. More on carrying later...

 

He has an awful look.

As if looks determine a wrestler's skills.

 

He'd been carried to marginally good stuff a few times.

Don't throw out "he'd been carried" just because you don't like him. Carrying is one of the most overused/misused words on the 'net.

 

He had good matches with Benoit. Benoit wasn't carrying him. Benoit being great doesn't automatically make it a carry.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I agree with all the pro-A-Train arguments. He's far from the worst guy on the roster, and is probably one of the better big men in the company. I'd go as far as to say A-Train > Kane.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

If Train were ever to bust out his not-often seen but universally loved gorilla-press into a sitout bomb he'd be the most over guy on the roster.

[SuperJerk 0]

A-Train's physique hurts him about as much as anything else. He looks like a wad of cookie dough that fell on the floor and got dog hair all over it.

[DangerousDamon 0]

If Train were ever to bust out his not-often seen but universally loved gorilla-press into a sitout bomb he'd be the most over guy on the roster.

That's a great move, but didn't he almost kill someone with that move?

[Guest Rrrsh]

A-Trian is better than most Hosses, but overalll is average and needs an angle or a gimmick REAL bad right now.

[Guest The Ultimate Fantasy]

He needs to be more like George "The Animal" Steel.

[MARTYEWR 0]

Plus you have to have talent to back it up.

Venis and A-Train have talent.

[Guest The Ultimate Fantasy]

Val Venis is probably the most underated wrestler in the WWE, but he is no A-Train.

[BHK 0]

He needs to be more like George "The Animal" Steel.

If he started eating turnbuckles, that would be AMAZING.

[KTID 0]

Plus you have to have talent to back it up.

 

 

Venis and A-Train have talent.

 

 

I just spit my drink over my monitor. I know you were probably joking, but still, i shall be expecting you to buy me a new monitor!

[MARTYEWR 0]

Plus you have to have talent to back it up.

 

 

Venis and A-Train have talent.

 

 

I just spit my drink over my monitor. I know you were probably joking, but still, i shall be expecting you to buy me a new monitor!

If I was joking, I would've put Test there!

 

A-Train's fine for a big man. He may not have the look of Batista or Brock Lesnar, or the athleticism of Lesnar (although agility-wise he's still not too bad), but he's a fine worker for a hoss. Catch his match with Jericho a couple weeks ago? Then you'll notice A-Train did a great job continuing Jericho's storyline revolving around the ribs injured by Tyson Tomko the week before. He had some simple, but effective offense. Oddly, he looked bad when, after the offense he gave out, one strike from Jericho is enough to put him on the ropes for 10-15 seconds so Jericho can do his silly-looking running choke move. Besides that, Train had a good match.

 

He's probably better off on Smackdown. He could've been used as a King Kong Bundy to Eddie Guerrero's Hulk Hogan, if Eddie still had the title that is.