Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 1 I, Robot Fox $52,250,000 - $52,250,000 2 Spider-Man 2 Sony $24,200,000 - $301,712,000 3 Cinderella Story WB $13,800,000 - $13,800,000 4 Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy DW $13,400,000 - $56,507,000 5 Fahrenheit 9/11 Lions $7,000,000 - $93,809,000 6 King Arthur BV $6,927,000 - $37,876,000 7 The Notebook NL $5,450,000 - $53,679,000 8 White Chicks Sony $3,400,000 - 63,434,000 9 DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story Fox $3,225,000 - $104,577,000 10 The Terminal DW $3,100,000 - $71,149,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 18, 2004 I'm surprised Fahrenheit 9/11 is beating King Arthur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Is that a disapointment ofr I, Robot or not? I mean it's a will smith saves the world movie...that usually draws a big number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Is that a disapointment ofr I, Robot or not? I mean it's a will smith saves the world movie...that usually draws a big number. ???!!!???!!! Um, anyways, I noticed not ONE thread was made about I,Robot. I guess like myself, no one expected it to make big money with Spiderman 2 still about and all. But Kudos to Will Smith for getting another number 1 box office hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 I'm surprised Fahrenheit 9/11 is beating King Arthur. I think the "war with swords" genre/movies or whatever, it is called is a little overplayed now. Plus no "star" was in the movie either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 That King Arthur movie cost 100 million dollars to make. Very sad. It was supposed to be a summer blockbuster. But at least one movie has to be the summer "bomb." However, for the first time in a long while, the movie actually "bombed" as not cracking the 100 million dollar mark. Even "The Hulk" was able to acheive that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Is that a disapointment ofr I, Robot or not? I mean it's a will smith saves the world movie...that usually draws a big number. I, Robot is his largest summer opening EVER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Is that a disapointment ofr I, Robot or not? I mean it's a will smith saves the world movie...that usually draws a big number. This is the biggest opening ever for a Will Smith Movie. 1 I, Robot $52,250,000 3,420 7/16/04 2 Men in Black II $52,148,751 3,557 7/3/02 3 Men in Black $51,068,455 3,020 7/2/97 4 Independence Day $50,228,264 2,882 7/3/96 5 Bad Boys II $46,522,560 3,186 7/18/03 6 Wild Wild West $27,687,484 3,342 6/30/99 7 Enemy of the State $20,038,573 2,393 11/20/98 8 Bad Boys $15,523,358 2,132 4/7/95 9 Ali $14,710,892 2,446 12/25/01 10 Made in America $11,821,326 2,048 5/28/93 11 The Legend of Bagger Vance DW $30,919,168 12 Where the Day Takes You $190,961 93 9/11/92 13 Six Degrees of Separation $53,058 2 12/10/93 So I wouldn't call that a disapointment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Not suprised that I, Robot took the top spot this week. Sorry to go off topic but, why'd Choken One get the boot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Sorry to go off topic but, why'd Choken One get the boot? That's a good question, I've been wondering that myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Good for Hilary. While the movie dropping from Friday to Saturday is not the best news- it still proves that she can open a movie by herself and not need the Disney marketing machine behind her. The movie did better then predicted, and with a budget of only 19 million will easily make a profit. This also shows Hilary can open a movie better then Lindsay. While Mean Girls had the better opening it was released in a less crowded marketplace, carried a more accessible PG-13 rating and had Tina Fey's name which gave it credibility to people who wouldn't normally see a teen comedy. Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen which was a PG rated movie based soley on Lindsay Lohan's starpower only opened to around 9 million. A Cinderella Story was based soley on Hilary's star power and did almost 5 million better while having to contend with I Robot (which played better with females then expected), Spiderman 2 (which is still doing big business) and the Notebook (which is showing remarkable staying power). I'm very interested to see how Raise Your Voice does in October as that's a movie that's squarely resting on Hilary's ability to carry a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 18, 2004 I think Tina Fey did little as an actual draw, and more as just buzz. The same crowd that went to see Mean Girls would have seen it without Fey in the film itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2004 Good for Hilary. While the movie dropping from Friday to Saturday is not the best news- it still proves that she can open a movie by herself and not need the Disney marketing machine behind her. The movie did better then predicted, and with a budget of only 19 million will easily make a profit. This also shows Hilary can open a movie better then Lindsay. While Mean Girls had the better opening it was released in a less crowded marketplace, carried a more accessible PG-13 rating and had Tina Fey's name which gave it credibility to people who wouldn't normally see a teen comedy. Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen which was a PG rated movie based soley on Lindsay Lohan's starpower only opened to around 9 million. A Cinderella Story was based soley on Hilary's star power and did almost 5 million better while having to contend with I Robot (which played better with females then expected), Spiderman 2 (which is still doing big business) and the Notebook (which is showing remarkable staying power). I'm very interested to see how Raise Your Voice does in October as that's a movie that's squarely resting on Hilary's ability to carry a movie. Good call Bob, as I also called the same thing. Hilary is a bigger draw than Lindsay, well by the numbers atleast. Even though Lindsay is supposed to be "the next big thing," Hilary is doing better. My point is that "A Cinderella Story" will do pretty well next week. There isn't any "family" movies in the top 10 (other than Shrek 2 which is falling fast), so the competition for the movie isn't that big. It will make atleast $20 million next week. I think Tina Fey did little as an actual draw, and more as just buzz. The same crowd that went to see Mean Girls would have seen it without Fey in the film itself. I am not to sure about that. I don't think Bob would have seen the movie if Fey wasn't in it. However, she still is no where near a "draw" yet. This was her first movie ever, and you need to have more than one movie under your belt to become a "draw." Unless you count "Martin & Orloff," as another movie, but her role was more of a cameo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 I think Tina Fey did little as an actual draw, and more as just buzz. The same crowd that went to see Mean Girls would have seen it without Fey in the film itself. I disagree. The ads for Mean Girls were aimed squarely at the teenage demographic which usually results in an opening in the low tens. So something had to give right? I think all the press Tina did greatly helped the movie. People realised that Mean Girls was not just your average generic teen comedy. I think her presence and the subsequent good reviews the movie got made people take notice. It wasn't really cause of Lindsay. If Lindsay was a big star then Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen would've done better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Martin and Orlorff shouldn't count since Ian and Matt were never able to find someone to fully distribute the damn thing. That's what doomed that film. Hilary's more of a draw then Lindsay simply cause of Hilary's crossover appeal. Lindsay is having a hard time getting her singing career off the ground while Hilary has a triple platinum album and a national tour selling out across the country. Could Lindsay fill 6,000 people in Bryant Park? I doubt it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheJewof2001 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Lindsay is hotter than Hilary though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Gotta disagree with that one. (Oh no- it's like the jailbait thread all over again) I've met them both and Hilary is a lot cuter in person. Lindsay has her good points (her massive tits) but she has bad skin that sometimes takes away from her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brush with Greatness 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Good for Hilary. While the movie dropping from Friday to Saturday is not the best news- it still proves that she can open a movie by herself and not need the Disney marketing machine behind her. The movie did better then predicted, and with a budget of only 19 million will easily make a profit. This also shows Hilary can open a movie better then Lindsay. While Mean Girls had the better opening it was released in a less crowded marketplace, carried a more accessible PG-13 rating and had Tina Fey's name which gave it credibility to people who wouldn't normally see a teen comedy. Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen which was a PG rated movie based soley on Lindsay Lohan's starpower only opened to around 9 million. A Cinderella Story was based soley on Hilary's star power and did almost 5 million better while having to contend with I Robot (which played better with females then expected), Spiderman 2 (which is still doing big business) and the Notebook (which is showing remarkable staying power). I'm very interested to see how Raise Your Voice does in October as that's a movie that's squarely resting on Hilary's ability to carry a movie. Not that I really care one way or another but you seem to be blowing a lot of facts up people's asses that aren't very true Bob. Your first claim about the 19 million dollar budget is somewhat true, but that is merely the production budget and does not take into account the fair sized advertising budget the movie had of 30 million. Your entire sentence about Hilary being a better opener is a totally flawed argument as well. Mean Girls in a less crowded market place? It was competing with the one week old 13 going on 30 which appealed to some of the similar core demographic, along with a number of other movies that would have appealed to the same crew. The type of people who went to see Cinderella Story had no other real options, apart from maybe the few week old Notebook. Secondly, tell me when they changed the rating system to make PG movies less accessible than PG-13 movies? I'm not sure if this was an outright lie to make your argument look stronger or what, but a PG 13 rating is stricter than a mere PG rating. On top of this, if you talking about marketplace affecting whose the bigger draw, then I think you would have to consider percentages of the overall weekend take that these movies made to be fairly important. And looking at it that way, Mean Girls grabbed 28% of the total box office gross on its opening weekend, Confessions grabbed 13% and Cinderella drew a mere 10 %. Not that I really care one way or another, I was just tired to listening to the biased rants of you and Mole for a second consecutive week. BTW Mole, 14 million is a far cry from "at least 20 million next week". Stupidest (yet strangely fun for some reason) argument ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Could Lindsay fill 6,000 people in Bryant Park? I doubt it From what I read a few weeks ago, I forget where, Hilary is doing pretty well with her concert sales. Can Lohan even sing? I've met them both and Hilary is a lot cuter in person. Lindsay has her good points (her massive tits) but she has bad skin that sometimes takes away from her. Now this is interesting. I think Lohan is hotter, with the red hair and of course her tits helping. I used to like Hilary better, but eventually Lohan got to me. Bob, do you have pictures taken with Hilary too? And can you post the Lohan one again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 BTW Mole, 14 million is a far cry from "at least 20 million next week". Er, good point. I have no idea why I tried to gloat there. But I'll let Bob take that argument since I am sick and I need watch more of the Shield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Not that I really care one way or another but you seem to be blowing a lot of facts up people's asses that aren't very true Bob. Your first claim about the 19 million dollar budget is somewhat true, but that is merely the production budget and does not take into account the fair sized advertising budget the movie had of 30 million. I got the 19 million quote from a Reuters article about the movie. I didn't know it didn't include marketing. That's my bad right there. Your entire sentence about Hilary being a better opener is a totally flawed argument as well. Mean Girls in a less crowded market place? It was competing with the one week old 13 going on 30 which appealed to some of the similar core demographic, along with a number of other movies that would have appealed to the same crew. The type of people who went to see Cinderella Story had no other real options, apart from maybe the few week old Notebook. 13 Going on 30 was just an opening weekend movie. It pretty much died off once Mean Girls came out. I think A Cinderella Story was hurt by I, Robot. I think people expected I, Robot to skew just to men but according to Box Office Guru- 49% of the audience was made up of women. I don't think the broad appeal of I, Robot was expected. Even the Notebook has been out for a few weeks- it has been showing some excellent legs as I think it's been benefitting from good word of mouth. It opened to 13.5 million and it's fourth weekend still managed to make 5.45 million. It's showing remarkable staying power and is catering to young women- it could've very easily cut int the audience. Secondly, tell me when they changed the rating system to make PG movies less accessible than PG-13 movies? I'm not sure if this was an outright lie to make your argument look stronger or what, but a PG 13 rating is stricter than a mere PG rating. Not really. A PG-13 just means the movie may not be appropiate to people under 13. You can still see a PG-13 movie at any age regardless of parent or guardian. A PG-13 is better then a PG in some cases because it convinces teenagers that the movie is not just a film for little kids. Had Mean Girls been a PG would it have attracted much of an audience? Probably not. Because it would've been dismissed as a kiddie flick. On top of this, if you talking about marketplace affecting whose the bigger draw, then I think you would have to consider percentages of the overall weekend take that these movies made to be fairly important. And looking at it that way, Mean Girls grabbed 28% of the total box office gross on its opening weekend, Confessions grabbed 13% and Cinderella drew a mere 10 %. I see your point but keep in mind- I Robot heavily skews that thing upward. The weekend Confessions came out 50 First Dates was #1 with 20.4 made. That's not a very fare comparison. Not that I really care one way or another, I was just tired to listening to the biased rants of you and Mole for a second consecutive week. I know I'm very biased towards Hilary Duff but I'm trying to back it up with facts. I will admit that the movie's long term prospects do not look that good. I don't think Catwoman and Bourne Supremacy will hurt it too much but that Friday to Saturday drop could mean a drop of 50% or more like Anchorman had. From what I read a few weeks ago, I forget where, Hilary is doing pretty well with her concert sales. Can Lohan even sing? I can attest from a personal level that tickets are a bitch to get. She basically sold out Continental Airlines Arena and only shitty seats are left for Nassau Coliseum. I've only heard 'That Girl' in terms of Lindsay's singing. It's a catchy song and I like the video. I know she has other songs on the Confessions soundtrack and sang a song for Freaky Friday. She's trying to get an album off the ground. Now this is interesting. I think Lohan is hotter, with the red hair and of course her tits helping. I used to like Hilary better, but eventually Lohan got to me. Bob, do you have pictures taken with Hilary too? And can you post the Lohan one again? Red hair doesn't appeal to me very much. I like blonde hair the most and that's why I like Hilary. And while she's no Lindsay- Hilary's got tits. I didn't get a chance to get a picture with Hilary. I met her at TRL and could only get an autograph and talk to her. Very nice girl. Happy mole? Stupidest (yet strangely fun for some reason) argument ever. That's what I'm here for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 I knew Bob could answer that better than I could. And yes, thank you Bob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 didn't someone say the Batman Begins teaser trailer would be running with I, Robot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 It didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Oh. I have no reason to see it then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Hey Bob, question. Was she completely...sober at the time of the picture? I don't know, she looks like she is zoning out of her mind there. Was it after a really long SNL show or something cause she doesn't look all there. I have a mild crush on Lohan but that has to do 100% with her red hair. I don't know what it is about that hair color. Also, Duff's movie did a little better than I expected. I expected about 10 million, she snagged 13 which is nice and solid. Not my cup of tea but she serves her purpose and serves it well. And no, I didn't go see "Mean Girls" either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ArchoanJB Report post Posted July 19, 2004 I work in a theatre in a kinda small city (70,000). The theatre just opened up in April, in a established marketplace with a really shitty but really popular theatre. We have to share movies with that theatre. They got most of the big movies in June, while we've gotten pretty much ever movie in July except F9/11. Were trying to break in to this city and so far it's been working somewhat. Every week I'll try to give some input on what was popular and what just bombed here. I, Robot drew amazingly well. Busiest weekend we've had since Shrek 2. We were just below the BOM average by about $3,000. We made about $12,000 this weekend on it, while concessions sales (my job) were off the chart. It also was a very wide variety of people, and just about everybody coming out of the theatre said it was amazing (I've seen an hour and a half of it, suprisingly really freaking good) Cinderalla Story did horrible at my theatre. Mean Girls blew it out of the water the first weekend. It only did about $1,000 every night. Anchorman did decent, but like almost everyplace is dying down. We did about $1,500 to $2,000 every night this weekend on it. Funny as hell, I've seen it twice, just getting back from my 2nd showing of it just a bit ago. King Arthur is bombing. We only had 43 people (about $250) come watch it tonight. For comparision Shrek 2 had 36 and Garfield had 35. We prob. barely broke 1,000 for the whole weekend on it. Hopefully it can make up its money overseas as it was a really decent movie. The Notebook is still doing really decent, getting around $2-3,000 for the whole weekend I believe. We have a few other movies like Two Brothers, Shrek 2, and Garfield, but most of those have run their course. Next week we get both the Bourne Supremacy and Cat Women so it'll be another busy weekend. I'll give a report on what my theatre drew with them next week I hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Catwoman had better bomb hard, and hopefully Bourne Supremacy will do well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Choken One, unregistered? Time to investigate. Oh, yeah -- I'm surprised Robot did that well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2004 Hey Bob, question. Was she completely...sober at the time of the picture? I don't know, she looks like she is zoning out of her mind there. Was it after a really long SNL show or something cause she doesn't look all there. It was late Friday night after a long day of rehearsals. She seemed tired but she was very talkative. I have a mild crush on Lohan but that has to do 100% with her red hair. I don't know what it is about that hair color. Also, Duff's movie did a little better than I expected. I expected about 10 million, she snagged 13 which is nice and solid. Not my cup of tea but she serves her purpose and serves it well. And no, I didn't go see "Mean Girls" either. If you have a mild crush on LL- go see Mean Girls. Trust me. I work in a theatre in a kinda small city (70,000). The theatre just opened up in April, in a established marketplace with a really shitty but really popular theatre. We have to share movies with that theatre. They got most of the big movies in June, while we've gotten pretty much ever movie in July except F9/11. Were trying to break in to this city and so far it's been working somewhat. Every week I'll try to give some input on what was popular and what just bombed here. I work at a theatre too. It's at 11th and 3rd in the city. We don't get the big movies since we're very small. We got Fahrenehit before anyone else and we were SWAMPED. We did get A Cinderella Story and it did pretty good for when I was there. (10-6). The 4:45 show was pretty full. We put it on one screen while Fahrenheit got 3 screens. We're getting Bourne Supremacy which should bump the Terminal out of the water. I think we'll give that two screens and cut Fahrenheit to two screens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites