Styles 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 This was probably the worst event I've ever attended and it was hard to be into anything. -Only dark match was some random jobber announced from local Bathesda, MD (yeah, right) vs. Rodney Mack. Mack got a big pop. Short shitty match that was basically a squash with Mack winning with a powerslam catching the jobber off the ropes. -Before Heat, Fink makes his announcement about how the lights will go off and pyro going off in just a second! And then nothing happens. Obviously told to kill some time, The Coach (who had come out with Al Snow at the Heat desk) grabs the mic and starts telling the crowd (well, tries...we were BOOING THE SHIT out of him) how we should feel privelaged to have the Coach there. Unmerciful heat. The Coach was WORKING the crowd. Finally, he has enough and says "that's it, do you want me to leave?" HUGE POP. "Ok, I'm gone". And then he just sits down and the lights go out for Heat. No joke, Coach got the biggest reaction of the night. Al Snow got a loud "We Want Head" chant which he aknoledged. Heat: -Val Venis vs. Steven Richards. Neither guy was particularly over, this was your standard Heat match with Val getting a big pop for his win with the money shot. My chantings of "RTC" were lost on the mostly dead crowd. -Chuck Pulumbo (dressed like John Cena and wearing Converse shoes) vs. Maven. This match was BAD. Total clash in here, and it consisted of Maven throwing dropkicks, Pulumbo choking and a bunch of akward mistimes. Maven won, I think with a rollup or something. -Victoria vs. Jazz. Match of the night to that point and no joke the 2nd or 3rd best of the whole night. Both the girls were really working hard and pulled out a couple nice highspots like a Victoria dive to the outside. Steven Richards runs out in drag again to distract Jazz allowing her to be pinned by Victoria. RAW -Big pop for HHH's entrance. Although we were sitting in the mian concourse and not the floor this time, we started up the "You're Not Flair" chant again that go his attention last time and got mentioned in the Observer. I think he noticed us since he stared at us for a good 5 seconds and paused after saying something like he was going to say something else, but then continued and turned around and never looked at us again. We'll get you yet, HHH! -Then: THE ANNOUNCEMENT. Now, I know they want to hype a big match for the next week but COME THE FUCK ON! You don't know how dead the crowd died when Bischoff announced a 60 minute ironmatch between Benoit and HHH for NEXT WEEK. I couldn't believe it. We get stuck with this shit, Pitt gets 60 minute iron man match and we get 60 minutes of Diva search. Tremendous. This killed it dead and was something I kept lamenting about all night. Thanks, Vince, you fucking dick. The announcement of Big Dave getting the shot at Benoit got a big pop since Batista's a local boy. -We were actually really into Regal and the crowd was hot for him whipping HHH around the ring. We actually had a large "Regal" chant as he was being escorted out. -Sylvan Grenier vs. Tajiri. Tajiri telling us to chant "USA" got the desired response! The rest of the match was boring, and they blew a handspring spot that looked really stupid and then just stood there like idiots (im sure this was more Sylvan's fault though). Interference leads to Sylvan win. -When we saw them bringing out the set for the highlight reel, the place popped huge. DC loves Jericho. And then we saw the graphic....for the Divas Search contestants, and the place went SILENT. As if the next week announcement wasn't enough of a kick to the groin, this was just another punch in the stomach. The girls got a decent pop coming out which made me question the sanity of my surroundings but I was happy to hear each and every one upon introducal BOOOED LOUD. The only ones that got positive reactions were that 2004 Playboy girl and the last one they introduced. Then, as if this couldn't get any better, we find out Jericho is going to lead them backstage for a horrible Reality Show contest. So we sat for what felt like an hour in what is best described as a stunned silence mixed in with a few "boring" chants watching those idiot bimbos tear apart the office and gigle while Jericho egged them on. Bischoff got some pops for telling them to shutup though. Mission: Kill Crowd Dead, Accomplished. -Tomko vs. Hurricane. Why is Heat back on? After sitting through that abomination of a segment we're supposed to come back with THIS match? I don't think so. Stacy got her predictable reaction for her entrance to the ring, and Trish was getting some cheers but the crowd largely ignored this match. Rosey actually got a pop for running in at the end, and again my comment that he "looks like Aldo Montoya swallowed Kwang" was probably lost on the audience. There was a "Rosey" chant but good God, we were waiting to cheer ANYTHING at that point! -Benoit vs. Batista. Upon entrance, Benoit got a huge pop from the crowd, Batista's was much, much bigger. Batista is from DC and my GOODNESS is Big Dave over. "Ba-Ti-STa" chants the entire match. Try in vain as we might to chant "Let's Go Benoit", it was ignored and flooded out by the "Ba-Ti-Sta" chants. Benoit even had some booes for his comebacks. Great, the last time Benoit comes through here as champion (and maybe his last show as champion, the crowd booes him for BATISTA). Crowd HATED the finish with the DQ, it's like THROW US A FUCKING BONE HERE, we were actually into the match but I guess nothing can go right tonight. Batista bomb on Benoit got a maddening pop. I just gave up at that point. I couldn't even cheer Benoit... -Edge's interview was pretty funny, I'll give him that. -More Diva Search Commercials which were just met with apathy at this point. -Jericho vs. Kane. Gosh Kane's pyro gets me every time. It was going along decently and we they announced the countout it was just par for the course and the crowd was getting really agitated. Luckily they restarted it. Except I couldn't see shit for the rest of the match since they brawled through the other side and it was impossible to see through the crowd! Jericho used the boom camera as a weapon which was cool. Batista (DC's new god, he could run for mayor and win) shows up to help Kane win and plays to the crowd after who continue to worship him with chants and applause. -Coach is out who draws more heat, and OH JUST WHAT WE NEED MORE DIVA SEARCH!!!!!!! The mention of bikins does get the drunk, moronic crowd to pop, but they quickly turned on it again. This just fucking sucked. -Edge vs. Orton. And if it couldn't get any worse, the crowd was very pro-Edge. Orton had a few supporters here and there, but Edge was clearly the favorite. First half of the match was DEAD SILENCE. I think we had been bored so bad that we were just dead for the main event. I mean seriously, they were dying out there, and you could hear a pin drop. I tried an "RKO" chant but it went nowhere. FINALLY it got going in the second half of the match (including a brutal move which I've never seen before, where Orton backsuplexed Edge onto the exposed rind barrier. Ouch!) For the finishing sequence, the crowd finally woke up and got into it. Couple believable falls. I think EVERYONE thought the spear was it. This was the best part of the show since for the first time, everyone was into it. Edge wins (and even gives us a shot of his thong, just to make sure the night ends as badly as it had been). -They ended with the graphic for the iron man which just filled me with an empty rage. Only post show happenings were Edge grabbing JR's cowboy hat and acting like his IC title was a horse and galloping around the stage like an idiot which got the girlies to cheer. Then Lillian asks us to give it up for Randy Orton, who got booed, collapsed on the stage and cried again. I feel ya Rand, I wanted to collapse and cry too. What a disapointing night. The Diva search stuff was just excruciatingly bad and LONG and oh by the way, next week is the iron man match. My tape didn't go on even though I set it, so I don't know how it all came off on TV. 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Mole 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 YOU GAVE AWAY HEAT SPOILERS!! I AM RUINED. I really don't care. It was just as boring on TV. I thought the people were booing the Diva Search ladies because of where they were from. The Texas chicks got the most boos, I thought atleast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I thought the people were booing the Diva Search ladies because of where they were from. The Texas chicks got the most boos, I thought atleast. Trust me, that wasn't it. We had our boos ready as each one started talking. The combination of sitting through that shit and knowing next week is the iron man really turned us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Thanks, Vince, you fucking dick. The announcement of Big Dave getting the shot at Benoit got a big pop since Batista's a local boy. Ah, that's right, he IS from D.C. Maybe that explains why he was put over ALL of the upper-card faces not named Edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Glad to know the live crowd suffered as much as the people watching at home. Thank You for booing the stupid bitches back to dumbass land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I agree that the LONG diva segment was brutal. But I did really enjoy the IC title match between Edge and Orton. It was a good match and established that Edge will do whatever it takes to beat Evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TigerDriver91 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I look forward to the Victoria vs. Jazz match on Heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chazz 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 People are giving this Show anywhere from a 6.5-9.0 (On a 0.0-10.0 Scale) on PwTorch.com. What show were these people watching?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I didn't think it was too bad, but then again, I always TiVo Raw instead of watching it live. If I had to sit through all those diva search segments in their entirety, I might start to lose my sanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 -Benoit vs. Batista. Upon entrance, Benoit got a huge pop from the crowd, Batista's was much, much bigger. Batista is from DC and my GOODNESS is Big Dave over. "Ba-Ti-STa" chants the entire match. Try in vain as we might to chant "Let's Go Benoit", it was ignored and flooded out by the "Ba-Ti-Sta" chants. Damn, I thought I heard Batista chants, but couldn't for the life of me figure out why. Thanks for the clearup. -Edge vs. Orton. And if it couldn't get any worse, the crowd was very pro-Edge. Orton had a few supporters here and there, but Edge was clearly the favorite. Do my eyes deceive me seeing Edge was the favorite? Funny how in the OAO Raw thread, people were claiming there were Randy chants. Bias' can really get in the way of fact, don't you think? Edge wins (and even gives us a shot of his thong, just to make sure the night ends as badly as it had been). Well, I'm sure the girls appreciated it. I did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 About 45 minutes into that show after the 15 minute rambling HHH clusterfuck interview and the never ending Diva shit I thought to myself, "man, this must be brutal for the live crowd," so it's nice to hear that I was correct Totally agree about announcing the IronMan for next week being a total buzzkill. It's like when they were in Montreal and teased Benoit v. HBK only to announce it for two weeks later in Phoenix, all it did was piss off the crowd. I mean, I understand why they do it from a TV perspective, wanting to hype up these big matches, but it's just a really shitty way to treat the paying customers that you're performing for in the present. I guess it's unavoidable w/ a weekly TV show, but it still sucks, and they probably could have handled the announcement better. Was wondering why Batista was getting loud face pops, didn't realize he was from the DC area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted July 20, 2004 WWE could always do matches announced "next week" after the cameras stop rolling, instead of just pissing off the crowd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deviant Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Whydon't they just have JR and King announce the upcoming matches, or have Bischoff join commentary during a match like Benoit vs Batista to announce "If you guys think THIS is something, next week..." Sure, I presume EZE got heel GM heat for screwing the town out of an great match, but that's hardly worth killing the crowd for the majority of the night over. Announcing it on commentary would work, as the live crowd would just be kept in the dark. They don't have to show the match screen on the titantron, and the commentators could be hyping it all night without the live crowd knowing a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I guess it's unavoidable w/ a weekly TV show, but it still sucks, and they probably could have handled the announcement better. Well, they need to make sure NOT to put on a shitty show when they make these kinds of announcements. Saying that a town is not important enough for a certain match, then putting on a totally 2nd rate show is never a wise idea. At least they should try to send the crowd home happy. Sending them home bitter probably means they won't be showing up next time. Of course, I am not sure Pittsburgh is getting the better end of the deal here. Half of the show will be the iron man, the other half will be trying to fit in commercials, diva search crap, advancement of the other feuds, and Iron Man match hype into one hour. I have a bad feeling that first hour will be atrocious. Hopefully, the Iron man match will make up for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted July 20, 2004 The Iron Man Match STARTS The show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I'm just feeling sad for you over here because appearantly you're from DC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 The Iron Man Match STARTS The show. No it doesn't, top of the hour means at 10:00. It would make no sense if it started at the very beginning of the show since its the main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 20, 2004 The Iron Man Match STARTS The show. No it doesn't, top of the hour means at 10:00. It would make no sense if it started at the very beginning of the show since its the main event. The IRONMAN is the first match.....that's why Ross said "Don't tune in late"..... Sorry the show sucked live Slapnuts, but on the plus side..........I'll be there live for the IRONMAN next week......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Do my eyes deceive me seeing Edge was the favorite? Funny how in the OAO Raw thread, people were claiming there were Randy chants. Bias' can really get in the way of fact, don't you think? Pro-Orton bias? Never thought I'd see the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 WWE could always do matches announced "next week" after the cameras stop rolling, instead of just pissing off the crowd. And how much would that suck.. They have the whole show...whatever goes on. Then after the last match. "OH AND BY THE WAY! IRON MAN MATCH NEXT WEEK!" I mean really...come on. Do my eyes deceive me seeing Edge was the favorite? Funny how in the OAO Raw thread, people were claiming there were Randy chants. Bias' can really get in the way of fact, don't you think? It must have been different in the arena...because it came off different on tv there were MORE Randy chants. Just looking it over again (taped it) it's clear that Orton got the bigger pop...at least from what you could hear on tv. But guess it was different in the arena.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Sorry the show sucked live Slapnuts, but on the plus side..........I'll be there live for the IRONMAN next week......... I was wondering if you were going to be there. And I was under the impression that it was the second hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Sorry the show sucked live Slapnuts, but on the plus side..........I'll be there live for the IRONMAN next week......... I was wondering if you were going to be there. And I was under the impression that it was the second hour. Oh, yeah. Just found out I'll be sitting swankly in the luxury box(free tix) and now they are having the ironman. I really don't understand the first hour getting it though....maybe a ratings spike...or so they think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I guess they know people will instinctively change the channel when that diva search shit comes on, so they're having the important match first to make sure people see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest otteaux Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Do my eyes deceive me seeing Edge was the favorite? Funny how in the OAO Raw thread, people were claiming there were Randy chants. Bias' can really get in the way of fact, don't you think? It must have been different in the arena...because it came off different on tv there were MORE Randy chants. Just looking it over again (taped it) it's clear that Orton got the bigger pop...at least from what you could hear on tv. I was at the show, and from where I sat it seemed at least 50% of the crowd was for Orton, so it wasn't that different live as it was on TV. For me, anyhow - it's so loud in the individual sections that sometimes it's hard to gauge how loud other areas of the arena are. I agree with the original poster that it was a horrible show. I liked Orton/Edge, and anytime Batista was out there (D.C.!!!), but other than that the show was nothing but ass. Shoulda stayed home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I just pray the diva shit is exclusive to Raw so I don't have to see it at SummerSlam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Sorry the show sucked live Slapnuts, but on the plus side..........I'll be there live for the IRONMAN next week......... I was wondering if you were going to be there. And I was under the impression that it was the second hour. Oh, yeah. Just found out I'll be sitting swankly in the luxury box(free tix) and now they are having the ironman. I really don't understand the first hour getting it though....maybe a ratings spike...or so they think? My guess is...it's sort of like when TNA had their first cage match on first. That way there's no restrictions, for time and such. Because if all the other stuff was left to go first...they may accidently overrun with diva shit, or whatever else they have planned. As well as what you said, possible ratings spike...they want to get people's attention right off the back. But still, like I said main reason is probaly so that there's no, 'cutting it short' because RAW is going off. This way they have free ranger to do whatever...and then they can just cut the other stuff short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 Man, I felt sorry for the ppl who watched it live, because last night's RAW was damn boring. Nothing notable, and I LOVE the way the whole HHH/Eugene thing never continued. Well, they did bring in Regal, which was a good thing, but man, one of the most boring RAWs in a while. I don't about next RAW, with the iron man match kicking off at 9pm, they better be doing something new... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 I just pray the diva shit is exclusive to Raw so I don't have to see it at SummerSlam. Im pretty sure that there will be like 6 of them left by Summerslam and they'll probably have some sort of contest durring the PPV. Heck, they even showed promos for the Thursday show on Smackdown so even Smackdown isn't completely imune from the Diva crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2004 I'm just feeling sad for you over here because appearantly you're from DC. Nope, but a 30 minute metro ride away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TigerDriver91 Report post Posted July 21, 2004 I just pray the diva shit is exclusive to Raw so I don't have to see it at SummerSlam. Oh man... I am going to SummerSlam... We don't need you giving Vince any ideas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
