WWE Notes from the 8/9 Observer

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The Ric Flair book moved to No. 6 on the New York Times bestseller list that will be coming out on 8/8. It was No. 5 in the Globe & Mall list (the most prestigious list in Canada) for the second straight week. Those numbers do reflect the new promotional strategy revolved around knocking Bret Hart and Mick Foley, and it was up from No. 7 on the New York Times list the week before.

 

An update on SummerSlam from last week: the Chris Jericho vs. Batista match was made a three-way with Edge for the IC title. Matt Hardy vs. Kane has the added stipulation that the winner gets to marry Lita. I think FMW under Kodo Fuyuki may have done some deal where if somebody lost a match they would have to marry Kyoko Inoue many years back. My guess is Kane will have the match in the bag, when Shawn Michaels will be the knight in shining armor. Of course, then Matt will be destroyed (knee surgery) so the wedding is postponed for a while. If not, they do have the possibilities of doing a Kane-Lita wedding and do months of vignettes of Lita driving Kane insane until he finally agrees to let her out of the marriage. Hey, much of their audience is now men over the age of 35.

 

There was a good deal of national media pub, and even more in the Minnesota area obviously, regarding Brock Lesnar's signing with the Minnesota Vikings. It was covered on ESPN news and talked about on their talk shows and on many sports talk shows. When asked about the pay cut, going from an estimated $1.5 million per year guaranteed for seven years to maybe $85,000 this year since it's most likely he’ll wind up this season, with no guarantees of anything, he said, "Money's just money. It doesn't make you happy. I've been on both spectrums, a poor dairy farmer in Webster, South Dakota, and I've been a millionaire. One doesn’t make you happier than the other." Lesnar said if the team suggested it, he would be willing to play next season in NFL Europe for experience, which is what Vikings coach Mike Tice said is the most likely scenario. Lesnar is currently earning $750 per week in camp. Lesnar also apologized for the anti-gay remarks he made in an ESPN interview a few months back, since it resurfaced as an issue when he signed. “I’m sorry for my statement," he said. "I'm sorry for anybody's feelings getting hurt." Lesnar, when being interviewed by ESPN's Wayne Drehs in June, had a woman come up to him and say that a guy with her "thinks you're kinda cute." Lesnar responded with a curse-laden outburst and told the reporter, "I don’t like gays. Write that down in your little notebook. I don’t like gays." Lesnar's appearance in camp has been the major story out of the Vikings camp, with daily coverage so far. ESPN Sports Center covered it, with interviews with Tony Dungy and The Rock. Rock said the chances are slim he'll make it but he put over Lesnar as a great athlete who has a chance. Dungy talked about how Lesnar has this great body and has never used steroids. Lesnar did his "bring me your pee cup" line and said it was a big mistake to go to WWE (three years ago he told me pro wrestling was the greatest job in the world). He said the travel and fame were too much. If he doesn't like fame, the NFL may not be the place to go. Sable, who is still Lesnar's girlfriend, accompanied Lesnar to his first day of practice on 7/30. Lesnar, swarmed by autograph seekers, said the football fans were "a lot more polite than wrestling fans, that's for sure." He will be rooming in camp with Chris Hovan, the Vikings' starting defensive tackle. The two have known each other for several years, plus it will be better for Lesnar in learning the position. "I was telling my girlfriend (Rena Mero) on the way down that I'm finally starting to feel like a competitor again. It kind of went away for me a little bit in the entertainment business. This is a good feeling. I missed this feeling." Lesnar's agent has claimed when Vince McMahon found out Lesnar was serious about leaving and trying football, he wanted to call a big press conference and make a big deal out of it. Lesnar refused, thinking that nobody would take him seriously at that point, figuring it was just a WWE publicity stunt. On the first day, he worked out one-on-one with coaches as they didn’t want him to be embarrassed against football players for several days. As it turned out, by Monday, he was in there as part of the third string defense against the third string offense, and was stood up at the line and pushed down the field several times, but did get one tackle.

 

The WWE Experience has been moved back one hour to 11 a.m. on Sundays. For some reason, this time change has barely been publicized other than the crawl they put on TV that almost nobody even looks at.

 

The line-ups for the Australia tour were released. 8/27 in Sydney will be JBL vs. Undertaker, Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle, John Cena & RVD vs. Booker T & Rene Dupree, Billy Kidman & Paul London vs. the Dudleys (they've been having strong house show matches), Spike Dudley vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero and the women in a best body deal. 8/28 in Brisbane is JBL vs. Guerrero, Undertaker vs. Angle, Booker vs. Cena, Kidman & London vs. Dudleys, Spike vs. Mysterio vs. Chavo and RVD vs. Jon Heidenreich. 8/29 in Melbourne is JBL vs. Undertaker no DQ, Guerrero vs. Angle no DQ, Booker vs. Cena vs. Dupree for US title, Kidman & London & Funaki vs. Dudleys & Spike, Torrie Wilson & Miss Jackie vs. Sable & Dawn Marie, Mysterio vs. Chavo and RVD vs. Luther Reigns.

 

Danny Williams, the British boxer who knocked out Mike Tyson on 7/30, is a huge wrestling fan. Through intermediaries, he had contacted WWE about involvement in 2002, but was turned down. He's very interested in participating in an angle when WWE does TV in the U.K. in October. Not sure how beating Tyson has made him in the U.K., but in the U.S., it was more that Tyson lost to a nobody, as opposed to Williams becoming a somebody who KO’d Tyson. After beating Tyson, one of the first things on his mind was shooting an angle with Randy Orton with the idea (his) of legend killer vs. legend killer.

 

The San Francisco Chronicle had a story on 7/25 about "neuro marketing," which is movie studios using brain-scan technology to evaluate ad campaigns and interpret viewer surveys. According to the article, one of the things studying brain scans on women is that women secretly adore The Rock. "We showed a trailer for Rundown. A lot of females didn’t want to admit (in writing) that he was intriguing. He's got this wrestling past, so maybe it's not socially acceptable (for general public women) to say that they're attracted to this guy. But they gave off very powerful brain responses." That's all well and good, but the fact is, Rundown didn’t knock them dead at the box office, and there is a difference in women wanting to sleep with a guy and if they want to pay $10 to watch him for two hours act in a movie. I don’t know what my brain scan would say about Torrie Wilson, but I promise you, if write I don’t want to watch her wrestle or watch her act, I'm not lying.

 

When Ric Flair was on "Best Damn Sports Show Period" and asked who he admired the most as a performer, he said Ray Stevens (who, in the 60s, when Flair was young, was often thought of as the best worker in the business).

 

Reports are the Chris Benoit DVD is awesome. Of course looking at old matches today can disappoint since matches are worked for their time frame, as work styles and fans expectations constantly change, but the Benoit vs. Kurt Angle match from Royal Rumble 2003 apparently watching things today looks better than his Japanese matches. I haven’t seen it, but have been told Michael Cole was not good doing voiceovers of old matches, but that he was Mike Tenay next to Todd Grisham, who had no clue about anything, to the point Dean Malenko, doing color, was badly making fun of him. Once, he asked Malenko how be and Benoit got to Japan, and Malenko deadpanned, "by airplane." Grisham knew none of the guys, including mispronouncing Jushin Lyger and having no clue whom he was, nor having any clue what the Super J Cup was. I'm not saying he should know off the top of his head, but he should have enough "working knowledge" that when someone says, this was a one-night tournament of most of the top junior heavyweights in the world 10 years ago from many promotions, you should be able to handle it from there.

 

More on Beth Phoenix, who wrestles in OVW as the cousin of Brent Albright doing a female shooter gimmick: her real name is Elizabeth Carolyn from Elmira, NY. She's 23 years old, and lettered in high school wrestling against guys. She debuted on a show Roddy Piper promoted in Washington in 2001, worked some Northeastern independents and did most of her wrestling for Apocalypse Wrestling out of Toronto under the name Phoenix, working a lot against Felina (Gail Kim) and Tracy Brooks (TNA). She also once wrestled current OVW wrestler Jillian Hall in Toronto.

 

More on Ric Flair's interview with Kevin McKenzie from last week: he said it's an automatic that son Reid Fleihr (who starts his junior year of high school next month) will end up as a pro wrestler and be very good at it, but he doesn’t want him doing it until after he finishes college.

 

After some of the house show stuff, there is talk of doing a mixed feud with Steven Richards & Victoria vs. Rodney Mack & Jazz, since the latter two have no program and Mack hasn’t even returned to TV (aside from the 7/26 Raw Battle Royal where he was barely noticeable).

 

The Undertaker is really working with Jon Heidenreich of late since that's his planned next program, and Heidenreich is under pressure since he's not ready, everyone knows he's not ready, and he himself I think is naturally shy to go along with not being much of a worker, which is something he’ll have to overcome because his only chance right now is a wild and aggressive heel.

 

Eric Bischoff and Jason Hervey will both be hosting as well as producing a PPV from the Sturgis rally which will be a taped show airing on 8/20. Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment is the producer. Bischoff’s bio in the publicity for the show says, "Eric Bischoff of Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment is a seasoned television producer of over 1,500 hours of television on the TBS, TNT networks, and syndication." No word at all on what it was he produced or what he's doing now.

 

Ever since Vince McMahon praised the talent of Hiroko (whose poise behind a microphone should be natural as a former television news anchorwoman in Japan), the Suzuki family act has been praised by everyone, even to the point of talking about a babyface turn for them coming off the "I love America" stuff.

 

Vince McMahon came last week to OVW to look over the talent and gave a speech, and talked about signing more guys up for developmental, and opening up more developmental territories.

 

There was some heat over a misunderstanding with Stacy Keibler at a weekend show. She got to the building and was asked to do a meet and greet, and refused, saying she had just arrived after a long drive and nobody had told her about it. It became something of a big deal in the locker room. This isn’t going to be viewed well for her. The problem that a lot of people don’t understand about the women is that it takes a ton of work to look like that, and part of their aura is if fans see them and they aren't looking good, it ruins what they have, not that making a fuss over meeting fans ever goes over well.

 

Christian is just about ready to return, but they look to be holding it off for a few weeks because there's no point in putting him on TV before SummerSlam since he doesn’t have a program. He is booked with Edge on some-house shows in a few weeks, but that could mean nothing.

 

Chuck Palumbo suffered a neck injury over the weekend.

 

There was a major issue during the week at a live amateur class show at the Davis Arena on 7/31 that drew 300 fans. Most of the TV guys were there cheering their fellow students on. OVW teaches old-school ways, most notably that babyfaces and heels should never socialize anywhere people can see them, particularly if they are feuding. A lot of the younger wrestlers, if not most, were too young to understand the old ways and don’t have the instincts on the whys of this. At the show, Matt Morgan (heel) and Alexis Laree (face) were talking at the hot dog stand and Jim Cornette blew a gasket. He doesn’t like it if they would be in the same night club because of the possibility that a fan might see them, let alone talking at the Davis Arena filled with nothing but the weekly regular fans. He didn’t even like that the TV regulars were in the stands watching the matches with the fans, feeling there should be separation of wrestlers from fans. He told Morgan, who would be OVW's biggest star right now, that he's the big star, and if he went to a Stones concert, it's highly unlikely the fans would see Mick Jagger in line to buy hot dogs, because he's a star, and Morgan should act like a star. He also didn’t like Morgan being around with all the guys he abuses weekly en TV, where fans can see it, with him just acting like a fan.

 

Paul Bearer wrote a long web site article on his battle with obesity. He said he had gotten way out of control, as noted by his TNA appearances. He was called in September about returning, and because of his weight issue, the company helped pay for his Gastric Bypass surgery, which he got on 11/25. After surgery, he developed an irregular heartbeat and his resting pulse ranged between 160 and 180 from the stress of his body from the operation. On three different occasions before WrestleMania, they twice had to shock his heart back into regular beatings. He had dropped 129 pounds by WrestleMania, and has dropped 71 more since then, with a goal of dropping 75 more. His gall bladder problems came on 5/21, which necessitated the kidnapping angle. It wasn’t unexpected, as 30% of the patients who get that kind of surgery experience gall bladder problems from the rapid weight loss.

 

Actual attendance for the 7/19 Raw tapings in Washington, DC, was 7,800 and for the 7/20 Smackdown tapings in Philadelphia was 5,500.

 

7/30 Raw in Albuquerque drew 3,300 and $117,000. 7/31 Smackdown in East Rutherford, NJ drew 5,609 and $213,000. 7/31 Raw in Austin drew 2,800 and $92,000. 8/1 Smackdown in Bridgeport drew 3,300 and $84,000. 8/1 Raw in Corpus Christi drew a sellout 3,700 and $135,000. By today's standards, the Raw brand tour was a success.

[Guest TigerDriver91]

An update on SummerSlam from last week: the Chris Jericho vs. Batista match was made a three-way with Edge for the IC title. Matt Hardy vs. Kane has the added stipulation that the winner gets to marry Lita. I think FMW under Kodo Fuyuki may have done some deal where if somebody lost a match they would have to marry Kyoko Inoue many years back. My guess is Kane will have the match in the bag, when Shawn Michaels will be the knight in shining armor. Of course, then Matt will be destroyed (knee surgery) so the wedding is postponed for a while. If not, they do have the possibilities of doing a Kane-Lita wedding and do months of vignettes of Lita driving Kane insane until he finally agrees to let her out of the marriage. Hey, much of their audience is now men over the age of 35.

What the hell? Someone had to marry Kyoko Inoue?

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Eric Bischoff and Jason Hervey will both be hosting as well as producing a PPV from the Sturgis rally which will be a taped show airing on 8/20. Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment is the producer. Bischoff’s bio in the publicity for the show says, "Eric Bischoff of Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment is a seasoned television producer of over 1,500 hours of television on the TBS, TNT networks, and syndication." No word at all on what it was he produced or what he's doing now.

Road Wild 2004?

[The Tino Standard 0]

There was a major issue during the week at a live amateur class show at the Davis Arena on 7/31 that drew 300 fans. Most of the TV guys were there cheering their fellow students on. OVW teaches old-school ways, most notably that babyfaces and heels should never socialize anywhere people can see them, particularly if they are feuding. A lot of the younger wrestlers, if not most, were too young to understand the old ways and don’t have the instincts on the whys of this. At the show, Matt Morgan (heel) and Alexis Laree (face) were talking at the hot dog stand and Jim Cornette blew a gasket. He doesn’t like it if they would be in the same night club because of the possibility that a fan might see them, let alone talking at the Davis Arena filled with nothing but the weekly regular fans. He didn’t even like that the TV regulars were in the stands watching the matches with the fans, feeling there should be separation of wrestlers from fans. He told Morgan, who would be OVW's biggest star right now, that he's the big star, and if he went to a Stones concert, it's highly unlikely the fans would see Mick Jagger in line to buy hot dogs, because he's a star, and Morgan should act like a star. He also didn’t like Morgan being around with all the guys he abuses weekly en TV, where fans can see it, with him just acting like a fan.

To a degree, what Cornette was angry about makes sense, but the way he explained it according to this article, it seems like he's coming off all wrong. How many times do you hear about guys acting like prima donnas and being locker room cancers... Now, you have a guy trying to be down to earth and the promoters are telling him to be more stand-offish.

 

I'm sorry, but NOBODY should be acting like they're holier than thou when they're working a minor league circuit.

[Guest TigerDriver91]

Found this posted at Wrestling Observer website...

 

--Hurricane will be undergoing surgery on his nose on Monday and will be out an indefinite period of time. His nose was broken, and he wasn't able to breathe out of his right sinus, stemming from a match that will air tomorrow night on Heat against Chuck Palumbo.

 

Does anyone think we might see him return as Shane Helms and not the Hurricane?

[Guest Staravenger]

Found this posted at Wrestling Observer website...

 

--Hurricane will be undergoing surgery on his nose on Monday and will be out an indefinite period of time. His nose was broken, and he wasn't able to breathe out of his right sinus, stemming from a match that will air tomorrow night on Heat against Chuck Palumbo.

 

Does anyone think we might see him return as Shane Helms and not the Hurricane?

What would be the point? THE GIMMICK SELLS MERCHANDISE AND ATTRACTS LITTLE KIDS.

 

Whoevers in charge will not give up two things like that. Plus the gimmick is still over with most people at live events and autograph signings.

[Guest TigerDriver91]

What would be the point? THE GIMMICK SELLS MERCHANDISE AND ATTRACTS LITTLE KIDS.

 

Whoevers in charge will not give up two things like that. Plus the gimmick is still over with most people at live events and autograph signings.

Hey, I was just wondering and I like the Hurricane gimmick as well. No need to yell at me either.

[AndrewTS 0]

Found this posted at Wrestling Observer website...

 

--Hurricane will be undergoing surgery on his nose on Monday and will be out an indefinite period of time. His nose was broken, and he wasn't able to breathe out of his right sinus, stemming from a match that will air tomorrow night on Heat against Chuck Palumbo.

 

Does anyone think we might see him return as Shane Helms and not the Hurricane?

I'd say it would be more likely he'd return as the Mega Maniac or Fur Face/Run-In Man/etc. They'd be more likely to use him as Hurricane than a skinny jobber using his real(ish) name.

 

Besides, Shane Helms? They might confuse him with Shane McMahon. Can't have that, can we?

 

To a degree, what Cornette was angry about makes sense, but the way he explained it according to this article, it seems like he's coming off all wrong. How many times do you hear about guys acting like prima donnas and being locker room cancers... Now, you have a guy trying to be down to earth and the promoters are telling him to be more stand-offish.

 

I'm sorry, but NOBODY should be acting like they're holier than thou when they're working a minor league circuit.

 

Agreed. If he's just following the rules WWE laid down, I can't really blame him. However, sounds like stone-age thinking since no one gives a damn about whether or not an OVW face and OVW heel are hanging out together. If anyone gives a damn about OVW period, they probably are wise enough to the business that such a thing isn't going to shatter their illusion of wrestling.

 

If not, they do have the possibilities of doing a Kane-Lita wedding and do months of vignettes of Lita driving Kane insane until he finally agrees to let her out of the marriage.  Hey, much of their audience is now men over the age of 35.

 

This is SO screaming to be elaborated on by DEAN...

 

However, I don't think WWE's main demographics have much interaction with women, at least not women unrelated to them.

 

The San Francisco Chronicle had a story on 7/25 about "neuro marketing," which is movie studios using brain-scan technology to evaluate ad campaigns and interpret viewer surveys. According to the article, one of the things studying brain scans on women is that women secretly adore The Rock.

 

This is San Francisco--surely the men there do, too?

 

Gotta love how the Observer covers anything even remotely related to wrestling. Or not.

 

Reports are the Chris Benoit DVD is awesome. Of course looking at old matches today can disappoint since matches are worked for their time frame, as work styles and fans expectations constantly change, but the Benoit vs. Kurt Angle match from Royal Rumble 2003 apparently watching things today looks better than his Japanese matches. I haven’t seen it, but have been told Michael Cole was not good doing voiceovers of old matches, but that he was Mike Tenay next to Todd Grisham, who had no clue about anything, to the point Dean Malenko, doing color, was badly making fun of him.

 

Translation: The writer here loves WWE Style, and Grisham, contrary to early reports, knows jack **** about the business and is another worthless "pretty young man" hired by that buck-toothed jack off Dunn.

 

If Cole looks informed and well-composed next to you, you just suck.

[Guest Staravenger]

Whoops, forgot I did some "screaming" text. My idea: If it's not broken, don't fix it. Even IF Hurricane got a new gimmick, would they push a 180 lb., 5'10" wrestler who has less muscle than Ric Flair?

 

I just say let him ride it out until everyone hates it.

[Guest TigerDriver91]

All of Ric Flair's muscle has gone to his manboobs, dammit.

[Guest Staravenger]

Oh yeah, then let me rephrase that: The Mini-Taker on Smackdown had more muscle than Hurricane.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

If not, they do have the possibilities of doing a Kane-Lita wedding and do months of vignettes of Lita driving Kane insane until he finally agrees to let her out of the marriage.

 

Or Lita could drive half of the board insane with more of her bad acting.

[Guest Sturgis]

There was a major issue during the week at a live amateur class show at the Davis Arena on 7/31 that drew 300 fans. Most of the TV guys were there cheering their fellow students on. OVW teaches old-school ways, most notably that babyfaces and heels should never socialize anywhere people can see them, particularly if they are feuding. A lot of the younger wrestlers, if not most, were too young to understand the old ways and don’t have the instincts on the whys of this. At the show, Matt Morgan (heel) and Alexis Laree (face) were talking at the hot dog stand and Jim Cornette blew a gasket. He doesn’t like it if they would be in the same night club because of the possibility that a fan might see them, let alone talking at the Davis Arena filled with nothing but the weekly regular fans. He didn’t even like that the TV regulars were in the stands watching the matches with the fans, feeling there should be separation of wrestlers from fans. He told Morgan, who would be OVW's biggest star right now, that he's the big star, and if he went to a Stones concert, it's highly unlikely the fans would see Mick Jagger in line to buy hot dogs, because he's a star, and Morgan should act like a star. He also didn’t like Morgan being around with all the guys he abuses weekly en TV, where fans can see it, with him just acting like a fan.

Maybe they have good hot dogs?

 

And I don't care if your a heel or a face you just can't help but to talk to Alexis Laree. Not to mention there's a possible storyline you can work in here.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

the Suzuki family act has been praised by everyone, even to the point of talking about a babyface turn for them coming off the "I love America" stuff.

So, they'll take an un-over heel, and turn him into an un-over face?

 

BRILLIANT!

[Guest Reservoir_Kitty]

What would be the point? THE GIMMICK SELLS MERCHANDISE AND ATTRACTS LITTLE KIDS.

 

Whoevers in charge will not give up two things like that. Plus the gimmick is still over with most people at live events and autograph signings.

And me. I like the Hurricane, a lot. His goofy promos are always fun to listen to, plus he has that dorky little Carolina drawl to his voice. It makes me giggle.

 

Things I do not like include the Kane/Lita/Matt fiasco. Please, please, please, don't make it last the duration of a real pregnancy! The ratings (and my brain) can't take it. *sigh* That coupled with the Diva search.. how exactly is RAW still considered the 'flagship' show?

 

Ugh.

[Vyce 0]

Ever since Vince McMahon praised the talent of Hiroko (whose poise behind a microphone should be natural as a former television news anchorwoman in Japan), the Suzuki family act has been praised by everyone, even to the point of talking about a babyface turn for them coming off the "I love America" stuff.

 

Christ almighty.

 

I don't even really have anything against Kenzo or his wife, but honestly, at this point the yes-men situation in the WWE is far, far beyond the point where it's amusing any longer.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Did Jazz quit and/or get fired? I'm watching WEW (Women's Extreme Wrestling) on Fox Sports Atlantic (Digital), and she's wrestling on this show. As bad as you might think that the women in WWE are, you haven't seen bad until you see this...

[iggymcfly 0]

Even IF Hurricane got a new gimmick, would they push a 180 lb., 5'10" wrestler who has less muscle than Ric Flair?

 

I just say let him ride it out until everyone hates it.

Ooh ooh! I'm there.

 

Honestly, I feel the same way about Hurricane now that I did about Rikishi in his second to last face run. As in the gimmick's finished, it's become extremely boring, and it's time to move on to something else or give up on him forever.

 

Hurricane, Rikishi, and Val Venis are all acts whose overness is over.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Did Jazz quit and/or get fired? I'm watching WEW (Women's Extreme Wrestling) on Fox Sports Atlantic (Digital), and she's wrestling on this show. As bad as you might think that the women in WWE are, you haven't seen bad until you see this...

I think she worked for them between ECW shutting down and WWE hiring her. Probably a rerun/clipjob.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Entirely plausible, even though it defies logic that a promotion like that would manage to last this long...

[Scroby 0]

Reports are the Chris Benoit DVD is awesome. Of course looking at old matches today can disappoint since matches are worked for their time frame, as work styles and fans expectations constantly change, but the Benoit vs. Kurt Angle match from Royal Rumble 2003 apparently watching things today looks better than his Japanese matches. I haven’t seen it, but have been told Michael Cole was not good doing voiceovers of old matches, but that he was Mike Tenay next to Todd Grisham, who had no clue about anything, to the point Dean Malenko, doing color, was badly making fun of him. Once, he asked Malenko how be and Benoit got to Japan, and Malenko deadpanned, "by airplane." Grisham knew none of the guys, including mispronouncing Jushin Lyger and having no clue whom he was, nor having any clue what the Super J Cup was. I'm not saying he should know off the top of his head, but he should have enough "working knowledge" that when someone says, this was a one-night tournament of most of the top junior heavyweights in the world 10 years ago from many promotions, you should be able to handle it from there.

 

Yeah Cole was decent on the old matches but you gotta admit the short crack he got on Malenko was very nicely worked in.

[Guest TigerDriver91]

Did Jazz quit and/or get fired? I'm watching WEW (Women's Extreme Wrestling) on Fox Sports Atlantic (Digital), and she's wrestling on this show. As bad as you might think that the women in WWE are, you haven't seen bad until you see this...

Um no Jazz is still in WWE and has a match with Victoria tonight on Heat.

[Guest Sturgis]

Did Jazz quit and/or get fired? I'm watching WEW (Women's Extreme Wrestling) on Fox Sports Atlantic (Digital), and she's wrestling on this show. As bad as you might think that the women in WWE are, you haven't seen bad until you see this...

You might be confusing her with Lady Storm.

 

And the reason they are still in business?

They run in a bunch bars and stripclubs that are full of horny guys, promise nudity and deliver.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Did Jazz quit and/or get fired? I'm watching WEW (Women's Extreme Wrestling) on Fox Sports Atlantic (Digital), and she's wrestling on this show. As bad as you might think that the women in WWE are, you haven't seen bad until you see this...

You might be confusing her with Lady Storm.

 

And the reason they are still in business?

They run in a bunch bars and stripclubs that are full of horny guys, promise nudity and deliver.

Plus from the clips I saw, they have a Rock rip-off called The Smoke.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Ever since Vince McMahon praised the talent of Hiroko (whose poise behind a microphone should be natural as a former television news anchorwoman in Japan), the Suzuki family act has been praised by everyone, even to the point of talking about a babyface turn for them coming off the "I love America" stuff.

Ugh. Sounds about right seeing as I really can't stand her. Kenzo I can just about tolerate. But Hiroko just grates me.

[Enigma 0]

Did Jazz quit and/or get fired? I'm watching WEW (Women's Extreme Wrestling) on Fox Sports Atlantic (Digital), and she's wrestling on this show. As bad as you might think that the women in WWE are, you haven't seen bad until you see this...

You might be confusing her with Lady Storm.

 

And the reason they are still in business?

They run in a bunch bars and stripclubs that are full of horny guys, promise nudity and deliver.

Plus from the clips I saw, they have a Rock rip-off called The Smoke.

And it looks like he went through Rico's closet.

[Astro7x 0]

Wait... Rodney Mack was in the battle royale? Damn, they are right, I didn't notice him

[BHK 0]

Yes. Before Raw went live, about 10 wrestlers (if I remember correctly, the lesser ones, Regal, Mack, Hurricane, and some people that had jsut pulled Heat duty) all came down to the ring more or less at once without their respective themes/pyro etc.

 

I'm assuming this was down to save time and to save the entrances for the more "important" wrestlers. Mack also wreslted a dark match at the show, against a "local" jobber, and won with the powerslam.