Who likes Kerry?

[Special K 0]

During the Democratic primaries, I liked Dean for a while, until he couldn't hold his tongue. (the scream notwithstanding, I actually like a politician showing passion in front of a crowd.)

 

I liked Edwards, since he was glib, optimistic, and a 2nd rate Clinton, who I liked.

 

I liked Sharpton, though not as a presidential candidate, because he was passionate, brought up legitimate issues, and gave a great rendition of 'momma told me not to run.'

 

I didn't like Kerry. He was dull. He relied too much on being a war hero. (my bro's a war hero, and I don't want him to be prez), and I think Dems elected him just becuase he looked dignified.

 

I thought I'd vote anyone but Bush, but now I'm leaning towards voting wnyone but Bush/Kerry. I like Edwards a lot more than Cheney, but that's not who we are voting for, is it?

 

So, for the fellow Bush-haters out there, I must ask: Why should I give my vote to Kerry? Besides being notBush?

 

BTW, I think this is the worst 'lesser of two evils' scenario I've ever faced. And yes, worse than Gore.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Anyone who votes in this election is a dope. Seriously. The're the same freaking guy.

[Special K 0]

Oh, they're totally not. They're just equally liars and swindlers. They just prescribe to different lying/swindling beliefs.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Its really sad that there isn't a legit 3rd party candidate this year, because I think a 3rd party could get a lot of votes this year based on this argument.

 

Everyone was like "Anyone but Bush!!!" and now that Anyone = John Kerry, I think a lot of people have gone into "who cares" mode.

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Who Would Jesus Vote For?

By Edgar J. Steele

8-9-4

 

"I'd rather vote for something and not get it than vote for something I don't want, and get it."

--- Eugene V. Debs, Five-Time Socialist Candidate for President (1855-1926)

 

Shortly after George W. Bush first assumed office, I found myself driving down a rural Arkansas road, enroute to a speaking engagement. A small church stood alongside the road and, as I swept past, I noticed that it's readerboard said, "The lesser of two evils is still evil." I nodded to the wisdom of that rural pastor in posting his commentary on things Presidential. I assumed he meant Bush, of course, as representing the lesser evil in the choice that America had just made.

 

That was before 9-11. Before the Patriot Act. Before the airport Gestapo-like crackdowns. Before so many Patriot community leaders were imprisoned on trumped-up charges. Before America had killed so many innocents in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Before the gutting of America's constitutional Bill of Rights had been undertaken with a vengeance. Before the coming worldwide Depression truly was set in stone by outlandish government spending and immoral fiscal policy.

 

Remember those days?

 

Amazing how far we have come. I never would have thought it possible to sit here, over three years later, and actually feel nostalgic about the Bill Clinton era. Ah, for the good old days when I merely was ashamed of America's President and thought governmental growth and spending to be simply grossly out of control.

 

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

 

So many of us voted Bush into office with the conviction that voting for anybody other than Bush or Gore was wasting our votes. So many of us pulled the lever for Bush, thinking him the lesser of two evils. Ironically, even more of us pulled the lever for Gore, thinking the same thing.

 

Now we face yet another Hobbesian choice: Do we continue with the devil we know, or choose the one we don't? Bush or Kerry?

 

Who is the lesser of two evils this time around? The draft-dodging, National-Guard-deserting (30 days AWOL, by definition, is desertion), woefully-incompetent Zionist lackey? Or the pompous, self-inflicting-wound (three purple hearts and get a free Get-Out-of-Viet Nam card) Bluebeard opportunist Zionist lackey?

 

The debate rages on, as though this "choice" between Bush and Kerry makes a difference. Everybody agrees that it doesn't, yet few are willing to admit exactly why it doesn't. Who is the lesser of two evils?

 

That rural Arkansas pastor had it right, all along: The lesser of two evils is still evil. That's all we really need to know.

 

Bush must go because of what he has done. That is a given. In fact, Bush and his entire crew should be tried for treason. How anybody can vote for Bush after the past 3-1/2 years is beyond me.

 

That leaves Kerry. Or does it? Who would Jesus vote for? Not the lesser of two evils, to be sure. Jesus voted his conscience when given the choice, even after it was made clear that he would pay with his life.

 

What? You're not Jesus? Nobody asked you to climb up on a cross, you know. You don't have to pay with your life to vote your conscience. All you have to do is vote against evil.

 

Bush or Kerry? The lesser of two evils is still evil.

 

If we all, every single one of us, voted against Bush and Kerry, we could change America overnight. Even with the substantial vote fraud that takes place all across America.

 

Ok, you might say - I'll play. Who do I vote for? That is where your responsibility as a citizen comes in. Find out who else is running and choose someone - anyone - that you honestly can say is not a lesser evil. You might even find someone you can support in good conscience. It could happen.

 

Ralph Nader of the Green Party? Perhaps. I've met and spoken with Mr. Nader a couple of times. He's a nice guy. An earnest fellow and an engaging conversationalist. A true believer in the things in which he believes. I just don't happen to believe in some of the things that he considers important. You might, however.

 

Are there any other candidates? Bet you can't name any. Ok, how about third parties, then? Find a political party that you can support without holding your nose and vote for its candidate. Go http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm here

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm

for a pretty reasonable overview of existing American political parties.

 

The Libertarian Party? I used to be a member a long time ago. I have grown to see its open border and free trade policies as just plain wrong and certainly wrong for America, as is becoming painfully clear to so many Americans because of GATT, NAFTA and the WTO. Besides, the Libertarian Party today is riddled with Zionists and, in the final analysis, that is what is wrong with both the Republican and Democrat parties. Check my archives at www.conspiracypenpal.com for past columns that explicitly detail my antipathy toward Zionists of every stripe.

 

Jesus didn't choose Zionists when he was alive and he surely would not sign on board with them today. Don't forget that Zionists brought you every single war of any significance during the past 100 years. Zionists literally are drenched in the blood of others - hundreds of millions, soon to be billions, of others.

 

The Reform Party? Pick a splinter group of what remains of Ross Perot's brainchild.

 

Today, I suppose that I personally most closely identify with the (http://www.constitution-party.net/) Constitution Party. Probably, I should join the Constitution Party and actively support its efforts. But, that's just me. Your mileage may vary. You might find more palatable choices elsewhere. And you should. Elsewhere than Democrats and Republicans, that is.

 

Regardless, I have sworn never again to vote for anybody running under either the Democrat or Republican banner. I commend that simple approach to you.

 

How about not voting, increasingly the choice made by a majority of eligible voters? Refusing to vote makes a statement, of course, but it is the statement of losers. It was Leon Trotsky (born Zev Bronstein) who quite correctly said, "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." The same can be said of politics. By not voting, you actually invest those who do vote with greater legitimacy, sway and control than they deserve. Control over you. By not voting, you choose evil, in other words.

Why, you could even vote for me (see

http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/electme.htm

Two Eds are Better than One)! Honestly, though, I won't be writing my own name in, come election day.

 

Jesus would vote, believe me. And he would vote his conscience. And never for evil in any form.

 

 

"I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth."

- Morpheus

 

Copyright ©2004, Edgar J. Steele

 

Forward as you wish. Permission is granted to circulate among private individuals and groups, post on all Internet sites and publish in full in all not-for-profit publications. Contact author for all other rights, which are reserved.

 

http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/vote.htm

[Vern Gagne 0]

Jesus isn't on Earth to vote. Why is this or any question about what Jesus would do even asked? To proof the other side wrong?

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Cause we are all to live our lives as He would

[Special K 0]

I'm so glad my topic was disscussed!

[1234-5678 0]

I didn't like Kerry. He was dull. He relied too much on being a war hero. (my bro's a war hero, and I don't want him to be prez), and I think Dems elected him just becuase he looked dignified.

I've been telling people for weeks that Kerry is a robot. I can't wait till it rains and his computer chip brain gets water on it and fries itself.

 

That being said, I will probably still vote for him.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I stopped reading Steele's article after:

 

Before the airport Gestapo-like crackdowns.

 

I also heard Hitler signed into law a $400 billion drug bill before gassing all the Jews...

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

None of the candidates are really likeable at all. I'll certainly vote against Bush though, just because I favor change.

[EricMM 0]

Vote Cobb!!!

 

[Stephen Joseph 0]

Anyone who votes in this election is a dope. Seriously. The're the same freaking guy.

Hmm, I'm not voting.

[Vyce 0]

I stopped reading Steele's article after:

 

Before the airport Gestapo-like crackdowns.

 

I also heard Hitler signed into law a $400 billion drug bill before gassing all the Jews...

I made it through to the point where he started labelling Jews as "Zionists".

[Stephen Joseph 0]

You mean you started to read Steele's article

 

For shame KKK...go sit in the KKKorner

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

OK, you caught me in my web of lies.

 

I was skimming the article, came across that line, rolled my eyes and scrolled to the next post.

 

Did he mention how George W. HITLER had the police dogs attacking black people trying to vote in Floriduh?...

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

ha ha....kkkorner.

 

sorry.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Don't forget that Zionists brought you every single war of any significance during the past 100 years.

Hi Hitler, what's up?

 

And I voted for Edwards

[Guest fk teale]

One important difference between Kerry and Bush:

 

Kerry's approach to the war on terror is that "any attack will be met with a swift and certain response." Whereas Bush's policy is to forestall attacks with pre-emptive action.

 

I think it's reasonable to hope that Iran's nuclear facilities will get the Osirak treatment early in a second Bush term. Kerry wants to give them free uranium.

[Highland 0]

Well, I managed to skim through the article, a bored expression on my face and my chin resting on my palm when this last paragraph caught my eye.

Coincidently enough it's the only one I can agree with, but even agreeing with one thing this neo nazi said makes my skin crawl.

 

How about not voting, increasingly the choice made by a majority of eligible voters? Refusing to vote makes a statement, of course, but it is the statement of losers. It was Leon Trotskywho quite correctly said, "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." The same can be said of politics. By not voting, you actually invest those who do vote with greater legitimacy, sway and control than they deserve. Control over you.

Edited August 12, 2004 by Highland

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I liked Kerry on Hardball's College Tour, where they were at some military school and Kerry was being approach by young men in uniform who believed Bush's "WE GOTTA GO NOW!!!!" crap and asked why he was against going to war as quickly as possible to prevent what we now know is an imaginary disaster. He was responding that if we slowed down a little bit, guys like the guy asking the question might not find themselves in a terrible situation fighting to prevent something that never happened.

 

 

But then, during the primaries, he was a complete bore.

[Guest Ram]

I didn't like Kerry. He was dull. He relied too much on being a war hero. (my bro's a war hero, and I don't want him to be prez), and I think Dems elected him just becuase he looked dignified.

I've been telling people for weeks that Kerry is a robot.

That would be awesome. He should run with that in his ad campaigns.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

In a political system with raving lunatics like Howard Dean or Dennis Kucinich running around, I'll take John Kerry any day. I like the guy, I just don't like the guys he hangs around with (except for Edwards).

[Guest El Satanico]

No I don't really care for Kerry, but I dislike Bush more. Voting against Bush was an easy choice for me regardless, but it would've been even easier if the Johns were reversed and Edwards was the presidental candidate.

 

Ok...maybe if they found and transplanted Hitler's brain into Kerry, I would consider voting for Bush. However, It would then cross my mind that Hitler was a smart guy who just went alittle nuts and maybe he wouldn't be so bad.

[Red Baron 0]

If Clinton was able to run for president again, Bush would lose big time.

 

Kerry or Bush...it's like a burning plane. I'm dead no matter what, but do I want to jump out of the plane and fall to my death or stay in the plane and die on impact.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Vote Cobb!!!

 

I voted for those Green creeps the last time I didn't like either candidate. It was a pretty spontaneous decision, that. After I learned what the party was about, I thought "The hell'd I vote for them for?" That's the pussy party, and not the good kind.

[EricMM 0]

I guess you could call them the Red Green party...

 

But that'd be doing a grave disservice to a certain PBS comedian we all know and love.

 

And yet, even if I disagree with a lot of their policies, they're STILL the most correct ones out there. They STILL are the ones talking about issues that I care about.

[Guest thebigjig]

Kerry's grown on me...

 

there are still some obvious things that annoy the hell out of me about him, but I realized that I liked him more than before while watching C-Span a week before the convention. He was at this kind of front porch, small town tour... and he had people sitting around him in front of someones lawn I think... and he just answered all of their questions, and he actually showed a side that I had no seen of him before. It's like he was acting as himself, instead of the stiff, boring Senator that I've seen for the past year. Not only that, but you could tell he had a firm grasp on the issues, and went into major detail answering each persons questions...

 

I forgot what that looked like after nearly 4 years of Bush. I've tried to watch Dubyah objectively, but I'm sorry... when he is asked questions by either reporters or voters, it never looks as if he really knows what he's talking about. He always give a point A to point B explanation on everything... the cliff notes version that is dumbed down beyond explanation. "I cut taxes because by cutting taxes... more money... goes into your pocket... next question"

[Guest GreatOne]

Kerry's grown on me...

 

there are still some obvious things that annoy the hell out of me about him, but I realized that I liked him more than before while watching C-Span a week before the convention. He was at this kind of front porch, small town tour... and he had people sitting around him in front of someones lawn I think... and he just answered all of their questions, and he actually showed a side that I had no seen of him before. It's like he was acting as himself, instead of the stiff, boring Senator that I've seen for the past year. Not only that, but you could tell he had a firm grasp on the issues, and went into major detail answering each persons questions...

 

I forgot what that looked like after nearly 4 years of Bush. I've tried to watch Dubyah objectively, but I'm sorry... when he is asked questions by either reporters or voters, it never looks as if he really knows what he's talking about. He always give a point A to point B explanation on everything... the cliff notes version that is dumbed down beyond explanation. "I cut taxes because by cutting taxes... more money... goes into your pocket... next question"

Yes because we all know that obectivity was Big'Obectivity'Jig's middle name

 

Sorry Jig don't get upset, I'll go back to my corner................

[Guest UncleJoeyMark]

Democrats and Republicans alike....

I offer the solution to all of our problems

 

Cut + It + Out!

 

 

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