Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Just saw the Phillies "highlights" - a triple play squanders a bases loaded, no out situation for the Phillies (they did get 1 run on a hit batter, though). Somebody put the Phillies out of their misery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Citizens Bank Park: Another example of how a new ballpark makes a team better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Somebody put the Phillies out of their misery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Are the Dodgers going to blow their lead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 If Bowa is still the manager of the Phillies tommorrow night then that's probably them officially throwing in the towel. Of course it's too little, too late at this point. Losing nine out of ten on a homestand and blowing a 7-2 lead in the final game? Woof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Bwahahaha. Sportscenter just made a humorous montage of Phillies blunders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 This Twins/Yanks game has been the best one I've seen in a LONG time. What looked to be a blowout in the Yankees favor, the Twins wound up coming within one before the 8th. Gordon had runners at the corners with nobody out. He got the first two and had Shannon Stewart at a full count, before he hit a triple to score the game tying and go-ahead runs. Then, Nathan blows the save in the 9th, as Sheffield hits his second homer of the game. Awesome stuff. It should also be noted that there was a controversial play earlier in the game, where a Twins run was scored as the runner was thrown out at third making the third out. But the out was recorded before the run crossed the plate. Of course, Bruce Froemming blew the call and the run counted. Not that I wasn't in favor of that, but hey, more proof that Froemming sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 20, 2004 And the Yankees reclaim the lead on a Matsui single to right field...but he got caught on the relay throw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 If Bowa is still the manager of the Phillies tommorrow night then that's probably them officially throwing in the towel. Of course it's too little, too late at this point. Losing nine out of ten on a homestand and blowing a 7-2 lead in the final game? Woof. There have been three or four moments where I've said, "ok, that's their cue to fire Bowa." He should've been gone after the Marlins sweep. Now its too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 But it's not Larry Bowa himself who is hitting into a triple play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 I think the window to fire Bowa is closed. Go ahead and do it, but it won't make a difference at this point in the season. In other news, Jose Mesa continues to his stride towards becoming the closer the Phillies knew all too well last season. Only needing one more out to give Oliver Perez a much-deserved victory, Mesa gives up the game-tying homer to Reggies Sanders. Watching the Cardinals this season; it's refreshing to see an entire team having such a great time playing ball. As much as I dislike them on principle because of the Cubs, that demeanor isn't too common these days. They remind me of the Red Sox of 2003 in that respect. Just a bunch of guys who support each other; go out and have a good time playing baseball and winning in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Once again there is talk of closing Wrigley, they're saying Monday night if it isn't to their satisfaction or whatever. Of course this would be the game I have tickets to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 They could just make it 'Hard Hat Giveaway' day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 This Twins/Yanks game has been the best one I've seen in a LONG time. What looked to be a blowout in the Yankees favor, the Twins wound up coming within one before the 8th. Gordon had runners at the corners with nobody out. He got the first two and had Shannon Stewart at a full count, before he hit a triple to score the game tying and go-ahead runs. Then, Nathan blows the save in the 9th, as Sheffield hits his second homer of the game. Awesome stuff. It should also be noted that there was a controversial play earlier in the game, where a Twins run was scored as the runner was thrown out at third making the third out. But the out was recorded before the run crossed the plate. Of course, Bruce Froemming blew the call and the run counted. Not that I wasn't in favor of that, but hey, more proof that Froemming sucks. I told my brother Nathan would blow it, and Sheffield took a pitch low and out of the strikezone into left-center. Really not Nathan's fault. Than he predicted the Matsuhi hit. A bad game for Nathan. Hopefully it's a blip and he's back to normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 But it's not Larry Bowa himself who is hitting into a triple play. True, but look at last season - Marlins fire their manager, bring in McKeon, and go on to win the World Series. It's too late for that to happen to the Phillies, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 For me, the problem is that young players like Jimmy Rollins, Marlon Byrd, Pat Burrell and Brett Myers have failed to develop under Larry Bowa. If one player fails its the player's fault. But when a group fails, you have to look for the root cause. And while I'm assigning blame, why hasn't Joe Kerrigan been fired yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 All I know is, the Yankees own all the playoff contenders closers in the American Leauge. Percival, Dotel, Nathan, Foulke have all blown saves against us this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Ironically the Angel's starters have improved considerably since the All-Star break and it is the bullpen that has been erratic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 It's not that tough to get Dotel and Foulke to blow a save, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Especially when Foulke goes a week without pitching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Well, my vacation ends on a good note as the Yankees at least salvage a win against Minnesota. And add Nathan to the "victim" list that also includes Hoffman, Beck, and K-Rod. Of course, Gagne should be on there as well, but you know, the ball didn't fly over everyone's head, so it's a strike. Not that I'm bitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2004 Kerrigan fired? The Red Sox are in the wild card spot right now. They're 16 games over .500 Bowa needs to go, The Phillies are the biggest underachieving team that's not named the 1993 NY Mets. Give Buck Showalter manager of the year right NOW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2004 Kerrigan fired? The Red Sox are in the wild card spot right now. They're 16 games over .500 Joe Kerrigan left the Red Sox after the 2001 season. He spent a year as a Comcast analyst, and joined the Phillies as a pitching coach in 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2004 Dave Wallace is the Red Sox pitching coach now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites