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Triple H now closer to Vince than Shane is

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- All signs continue to indicate that Triple H has firmly secured his spot as the #2 man in WWE behind only Vince McMahon. Vince is getting along extremely well with Triple H. Shane McMahon was backstage at the PPV yesterday but word is that Vince spent most of his time with Triple H anyway. The general feeling is that Vince treats Triple H as if he was his real son.

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There was also talk backstage that Undertaker and Kurt Angle, who are both clearly the power players in the Smackdown locker room (some people even call them the Triple H's of Smackdown) want to build up their characters for an eventual program where they work against each other as the clear top two stars of the Smackdown brand down the line. They clearly seem to want to position themselves as the top two men on the current roster, including the current champion. Sources close to the situation told me that Angle lobbied to get his win yesterday over Guerrero and would also like to have the WWE Title when he eventually faces off with the Taker. Angle is also said to be pitching for a TV match between he and Guerrero that will then lead to an angle where Luther Reigns is put in a program with Guerrero, and is pushed as a monster.

 

credit:PWInsider

 

Let the Kurt and Taker hate begin.

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There was also talk backstage that Undertaker and Kurt Angle, who are both clearly the power players in the Smackdown locker room (some people even call them the Triple H's of Smackdown) want to build up their characters for an eventual program where they work against each other as the clear top two stars of the Smackdown brand down the line. They clearly seem to want to position themselves as the top two men on the current roster, including the current champion. Sources close to the situation told me that Angle lobbied to get his win yesterday over Guerrero and would also like to have the WWE Title when he eventually faces off with the Taker. Angle is also said to be pitching for a TV match between he and Guerrero that will then lead to an angle where Luther Reigns is put in a program with Guerrero, and is pushed as a monster.

 

credit:PWInsider

 

Let the Kurt and Taker hate begin.

Well, I got a jump start on the Angle hate a few weeks ago with his political douchebaggery of RVD and Luther Reigns.

 

Taker hate around here, of course, goes without saying.

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Man, I was Anti-Angle before being Anti-Angle was popular. Back when HHHate was really big, I had a an Anti-Angle sig that I have brought back, and a HHHaters Haters pic in my sig. What a dick.

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Eh, I think Shane is content with not being in the spotlight and honestly I don't even think he would even care about Triple H being closer to Vince. I mean of course it's your father so it's going to piss you off, but he's got a family of his own now.

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What the hell happened to Kurt, he's become almost as much of a political backstage dick as Taker and HHH. OH well, at least he can back it up in the ring, somewhat.

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- All signs continue to indicate that Triple H has firmly secured his spot as the #2 man in WWE behind only Vince McMahon. Vince is getting along extremely well with Triple H. Shane McMahon was backstage at the PPV yesterday but word is that Vince spent most of his time with Triple H anyway. The general feeling is that Vince treats Triple H as if he was his real son.

Ha! Oh my, this is pathetic. I really have a hard time believing this. It sounds like it came right out of a story, like King Lear or something. Such fabricated bullshit, it seems. Pathetic.

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Here is a bit more from PWInsider.

 

It should be noted that H was waiting for Orton to come through the curtain last night and gave him a long hug and put him over for the job he did in the match. Once again, a number of people told me that Vince McMahon was treating H as if he was his son, saying that H is firmly entrenched in Vince's ear and that Vince just loves the guy. Because it was a PPV, Shane McMahon was at the show last night but it was clear to everyone there that Vince has bonded totally with his son-in-law. Some in the company even joked to me that if H and his daughter were ever to get a divorce, “Vince would really miss Steph”. That says it all.

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Here is a bit more from PWInsider.

 

It should be noted that H was waiting for Orton to come through the curtain last night and gave him a long hug and put him over for the job he did in the match. Once again, a number of people told me that Vince McMahon was treating H as if he was his son, saying that H is firmly entrenched in Vince's ear and that Vince just loves the guy. Because it was a PPV, Shane McMahon was at the show last night but it was clear to everyone there that Vince has bonded totally with his son-in-law. Some in the company even joked to me that if H and his daughter were ever to get a divorce, “Vince would really miss Steph”. That says it all.

The guy loves his son in law............jesus.............It seems like everything Triple H does is stricken against him. That's Vince's decision to have bonded with him. It's funny you have some people cursing HHH out for this, as if he did something wrong.

 

If I was in the business I'd be doing the same exact shit, and so would any of you. In the corporate world it's no different.

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If I was in the business I'd be doing the same exact shit, and so would any of you. In the corporate world it's no different.

Exactly, he's one smart guy and knows how to get what he wants. I don't hold this against HHH at all.

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QUOTE (JoeyStyles @ Aug 16 2004, 04:54 PM)

There was also talk backstage that Undertaker and Kurt Angle, who are both clearly the power players in the Smackdown locker room (some people even call them the Triple H's of Smackdown) want to build up their characters for an eventual program where they work against each other as the clear top two stars of the Smackdown brand down the line. They clearly seem to want to position themselves as the top two men on the current roster, including the current champion. Sources close to the situation told me that Angle lobbied to get his win yesterday over Guerrero and would also like to have the WWE Title when he eventually faces off with the Taker. Angle is also said to be pitching for a TV match between he and Guerrero that will then lead to an angle where Luther Reigns is put in a program with Guerrero, and is pushed as a monster.

 

credit:PWInsider

 

Let the Kurt and Taker hate begin.

 

How soon before Luther Reigns or Orlando Jordon become Smackdown champ? 6 months?

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I think HHH would do fine controlling the company, but that's just me. Sure he'd play favorites here and there, sure he'd piss off a lot of people, but it's no different from any other wrestling company ever.

 

HHH seems to really respect history, he seems to really love the industry. I'd rather HHH be over it than plenty of other guys, and defiantly over business people who don't know shit about the industry.

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I think HHH would do fine controlling the company, but that's just me. Sure he'd play favorites here and there, sure he'd piss off a lot of people, but it's no different from any other wrestling company ever.

 

HHH seems to really respect history, he seems to really love the industry. I'd rather HHH be over it than plenty of other guys, and defiantly over business people who don't know shit about the industry.

I agree with that. I'd love to see Triple H in control of the company, he may be full of himself but he knows wrestling.

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Here is a bit more from PWInsider.

 

It should be noted that H was waiting for Orton to come through the curtain last night and gave him a long hug and put him over for the job he did in the match. Once again, a number of people told me that Vince McMahon was treating H as if he was his son, saying that H is firmly entrenched in Vince's ear and that Vince just loves the guy. Because it was a PPV, Shane McMahon was at the show last night but it was clear to everyone there that Vince has bonded totally with his son-in-law. Some in the company even joked to me that if H and his daughter were ever to get a divorce, “Vince would really miss Steph”. That says it all.

The guy loves his son in law............jesus.............It seems like everything Triple H does is stricken against him. That's Vince's decision to have bonded with him. It's funny you have some people cursing HHH out for this, as if he did something wrong.

 

If I was in the business I'd be doing the same exact shit, and so would any of you. In the corporate world it's no different.

This makes you a horrible person who can never be trusted.

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The fact that HHH is close to Vince is not the problem. HHH can have sex with Vince McMahon on a bed of roses as they sing love songs to each other and Vince brushes Hunter's golden mane for all I care. But HHH is the reason Chris Jericho is not the top star in the company -- the sole reason -- and others would be in better positions as well if not for him either winning every match or being the moral victor or outsmarting them in angles or burying them in interviews or giving his feuds more TV time than everyone else's.

 

HHH is a hack who would be a career midcarder, a la Diamond Dallas Page, if not for the influence he has. That's the truth.

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Oh, by the way, we haven't swum in the positive HHH thread, so the HHH lovers can't piss in this one.

 

New rule for this thread -- no positive comments toward HHH.

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New rule for this thread -- no positive comments toward HHH.

I'd bring up the irony in that, but I think it's obvious

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The fact that HHH is close to Vince is not the problem. HHH can have sex with Vince McMahon on a bed of roses as they sing love songs to each other and Vince brushes Hunter's golden mane for all I care. But HHH is the reason Chris Jericho is not the top star in the company -- the sole reason -- and others would be in better positions as well if not for him either winning every match or being the moral victor or outsmarting them in angles or burying them in interviews or giving his feuds more TV time than everyone else's.

 

HHH is a hack who would be a career midcarder, a la Diamond Dallas Page, if not for the influence he has. That's the truth.

No, he is not Loss.

 

Vince McMahon is the reason Jericho is not pushed more than he is. The buck stops THERE. Jericho got the title, and Vince just doesn't like him and tried to use him as a cowardly heel Flair type Champ before just letting HHH run ragged on him. It may not have been Vince's idea... but he could have said no.

 

You have a problem with anything in the WWE... it really IS Vince's fault.

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Going on what Zsasz just said, deep down Vince is just not a big fan of Jericho. Vince would never push someone with Jericho's look as a dominant champion, NEVER in a million years. Jericho is not Vince's ideal wrestler, he doesn't have huge muscles, isn't really tall and doesn't do impressive "power moves" and yell and grunt in the ring. It comes down to this, if Jericho looked like Batista, he would have been booked better, all HHH politics aside. Vince will never give a smaller wrestler a proper run on top, he thinks the fans wouldn't buy it and no one could convince him otherwise

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He did it for Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.

They did not get dominant reigns like Hogan, HHH, or Yokozuna did. Bret did a humiliating job to a green Yokozuna in 93 and was shifted right back to the midcard for a year. Vince did not have faith in Bret because of his size. Even when Vince said "I'm sorrry" to Bret at WM 10 with the world title victory, he still was portrayed as a vulnerable champion. And guess what, Bret did another humiliating job to Bob Backland in 94 (a guy Nash beat in 10 seconds that Bret couldn't beat in 35 minutes) and... was shifted right back to the midcard for a year. Bret and Shawn were constantly portrayed as underdogs and had to bump around like pinballs for the big guys like Yoko, Nash, Sid, Undertaker, Vader. Even in Shawn's 96 run as champ, they played it off as he "survived" his matches more than he "won them convincingly". Compare those to HHH's and Hogans' run on top with clean victory after clean victory and no trips down to the midcard.

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He did it for Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.

Yeah but Bret was never really a dominant Champ. Even in his first reign it felt like they were looking for the "next big thing" and his reign felt unspectacular.

 

HBK is a special case. Kliq happens. Note how Vince wanted to get the title off of Michaels AS SOON AS Vader entered the promotion.

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