Who should Jarrett lose the title to?

[AmazingRen 0]

Seeing as Jarrett has already buried all these guys (don't worry Monty and Abyss will be added) which guy would make more of a credible TNA champ? I'll break the down by one:

 

1. Raven- I don't know if it's because he's not motivated or what, but lately Raven has been putting on some crappy matches. It seems like he gets tired in the first 5-minutes of a match. Sure he has the mic skills, but would you by a show just for that? So I wouldn't pick Raven

 

2. AJ- the only things that are making me not pick him is mic skills and lack of emotion in his matches. Can AJ wrestle? Hell yeah. Is it going to make people order? Hell no. You can put on good matches every week, but if you don't have the mic skills, strong emotion (see Benoit) or people around you that would make you look like a credible champ then no oe will order.

 

3. Chris Daniels- My pick. Besides Kurt Angle, Eddie and HHH he has the top 3 things you need to be a great champ. 1) Mic skills 2) Wrestling skills 3) Charisma. He would be a perfect heel champ for TNA. He has the wearing suits thing down pact. How many single matches has Daniels had in TNA anyway?

 

4. Turth- If he changes his character (or at least stop dancing and be taken seriously) he would be a nice pick.

 

5. Aybss- Not enough Heavyweights in the company

 

6. D'lo- See Raven (expect the mic skills part)

 

7.Hardy- Well he does have charisma. However, he mic skills are bad and the only time he matches are watchable is when his opponent are great wrestlers (see his matches with Benoit and his IC title win against HHH) and TNA doesn't have many that can do that

 

8. Monty- see Hardy

 

9. Kid Kash- too short

[Guest Staravenger]

Other: Anyone not named Jeff Jarrett, unless he somehow jobs to himself and even then it won't be clean.

 

Raven should get the title, but it won't happen.

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

I'd like to see Raven get the title, but even if he does get it, it will be a year too late.

[Guest Coffey]

Man, at this point, I don't even know. At one time, I would've said Raven without hesitation. Now though? Shit, after all of his shit with Sabu is said and done...Jarrett might not even have the title anymore.

 

I'd like to believe that Abyss is a contender...but he's not. That's not to say that he couldn't be built into one. Then again, so could Sonny Siaki.

 

AJ Styles? No. I think he's better off in the X-Division. Same with Christopher Daniels & Kid Kash.

 

Ron Killings I'm a fan of, and of all the listed options, he's probably the safest bet. Of course, as long as he's a babyface and hanging around with 3LK he'll never live up to his full potential.

 

Alpha Male? Maybe down the road, but certainly not yet.

 

I don't think that D-Lo should've even been listed. He's about as much of a contender as Nosawa would be.

 

Jeff Hardy? Eh...he has somewhat of a mainstream appeal still, I guess, but it's dwindling. No one really cares about him though. He just seems to get "hey, I know that guy!" pops. Once the match starts...no one really cares anymore. He still seems sloppy, unmotivated and confused when running around the ring. He just can't sting a match together...and I don't think working with more talented wrestlers would improve his cause because his spots are so...BLAH. It's like, he's a high-flyer, so pyschology wise, you'd think to take away his legs, right? Well, if you do that...he doesn't have ANY moves left. Not to mention he isn't the best seller

 

Not to say that the previously mentioned wrestlers are all perfect wrestlers either...but I'm not seeing anything at all in Hardy.

 

So, if I had to say, right now, from those provided, I'd go with The Truth. Of course, a heel turn from Killings to feud with someone other than Jarrett or just building up someone like Abyss would probably be the better bet. Hell, re-build Raven if you have too....

 

I voted for Ron "The Truth" Killings.

[1234-5678 0]

I'd like to see Raven get the title, but even if he does get it, it will be a year too late.

I haven't bought a show since he got jipped out of the title. That being said however, Rave does look like he is carrying an extra 20-25 pounds, maybe that's why his workrate has slipped. I did see him have a pretty shitty match with Gary Wolfe in 3PW.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

I voted for Daniels. I want to see him get a shot as the top guy in a company. Other than him, Truth is the only other choice, but we've seen him with the belt a couple of times.

[Magus 0]

TNA's direction needs A LOT of work before they can think of giving the title to someone else. None of the guys listed could just up and win the title these days. And it doesn't matter much anyway, since anyone who isn't named Jeff Jarrett usually gets buried, even if you're the fucking champ.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

At this point, I am surprised that Raven is in the lead. I no longer think that Raven would be the right person to put the title on as he really has lost steam in the promotion since JJ would allow for Raven to achieve his "destiny". Since then Raven has been pettled around ever stupid ass overdone fueds that go nowhere. Not Raven's fault, as they haven't exactly been going apeshit to find him more interesting stuff either.....

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Raven sucks. There I said it. I feel much better now.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Raven sucks. There I said it. I feel much better now.

You know what? Compared to the Raven of 95/96......your 100% right.

[Guest ally mccoist]

As a very casual fan of TNA I get this feeling that Monty Brown could get really over as a babyface. I haven't watched enough to get a total feeling, but thats what I could imagine happening. Maybe im wrong.

 

Anyway i'd say just put the belt on Hardy for a bit. It won't kill the company, and with good opponents he won't embarass himself totally out there. I'm just sick of watching Impact and seeing Jarrett having the belt and always winning these beatdowns. I'd be cool with Jarrett winning every brawl he gets in as long as he doesnt have the belt, or vice versa. I want to see the good guy win for once thats all. Hardy is probably in the best position for that right now.

[natey2k4 0]

I voted Jeff Hardy..

 

First off it would be a blow to WWE, who wanted him back.

Second off.. whether you like him or not.. people do know him outside of wrestling. If he was champ, I'm sure they'd get some more buys.

 

I'm not the biggest Jeff Hardy fan, but I'm sure could do alot for business.. he would need a manager though, because he's mic skills arent that great.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

I can't imagine disagreeing with a post any more than that last one.

[Guest ally mccoist]

I voted Jeff Hardy..

 

First off it would be a blow to WWE, who wanted him back.

Second off.. whether you like him or not.. people do know him outside of wrestling. If he was champ, I'm sure they'd get some more buys.

 

I'm not the biggest Jeff Hardy fan, but I'm sure could do alot for business.. he would need a manager though, because he's mic skills arent that great.

Just to confirm like, I said I reckon Hardy should get the belt earlier, but not for the reasons this guy has stated.

 

What gives you the idea Hardy will increase buys? "people do know him outside of wrestling". That means nothing. Hardy isn't a draw. Right now. He could become one, but i'd bet against it. As a transitional champ, just to give the fans a babyface as champ for a bit, Hardy would be fine. As long as there are no aspirations of huge buyrates and increased revenue with Hardy as champ, everything will be fine. Right now, there are no draws in TNA. They've either gotta create them or sign them. They should concentrate on creating them.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

1. Raven- I don't know if it's because he's not motivated or what, but lately Raven has been putting on some crappy matches. It seems like he gets tired in the first 5-minutes of a match. Sure he has the mic skills, but would you by a show just for that? So I wouldn't pick Raven

Well, when you get buried in your first big match and then get sent to the lower midcard, you tend to not be motivated anymore.

2. AJ- the only things that are making me not pick him is mic skills and lack of emotion in his matches. Can AJ wrestle? Hell yeah. Is it going to make people order? Hell no. You can put on good matches every week, but if you don't have the mic skills, strong emotion (see Benoit) or people around you that would make you look like a credible champ then no oe will order.

No emotion? You haven't seen the matches against Abyss, then. He was ALL emotion in those matches, and that's what made them so good. He just needs the right program to show emotion, and when you're stuck in angles against Jeff Jarrett and your character is changed every two months? It's hard to properly display emotion.

3. Chris Daniels- My pick. Besides Kurt Angle, Eddie and HHH he has the top 3 things you need to be a great champ. 1) Mic skills 2) Wrestling skills 3) Charisma. He would be a perfect heel champ for TNA. He has the wearing suits thing down pact. How many single matches has Daniels had in TNA anyway?

The problem would really be his gimmick. He hasn't really had one in TNA outside of SEX and a few promo's after his return. That...and three of the four former NWA champions have been heels. We need a face champ next.

4. Turth- If he changes his character (or at least stop dancing and be taken seriously) he would be a nice pick.

He is taken seriously. The dancing is him celebrating. Besides, he doesn't do it as the focus of his gimmick, he just does it in celebration or in taunt. Keep the dancing, since he's good at that too.

5. Aybss- Not enough Heavyweights in the company

So? As the feud with Styles proved, Abyss is fine working with cruisers. He's the best big man in the States today with national exposure (Samoa Joe might be the only one rivaling him), and he has a face turn just waiting to happen. It SHOULD have happened when Jarrett was a heel champion for the first time, and whoever won that Styles/Abyss match got the shot at the World title (most of us here were clamoring for an Abyss face turn), but no.

6. D'lo- See Raven (expect the mic skills part)

D'Lo has passable mic skills. His problem is that he's trying to go too Strong Style, and it's not working since he was brought up on WWF Style. When he first entered TNA, he was pretty damn good, but now? Burned out from constant touring, and he's trying too hard to do something he's not that good at it.

7.Hardy- Well he does have charisma. However, he mic skills are bad and the only time he matches are watchable is when his opponent are great wrestlers (see his matches with Benoit and his IC title win against HHH) and TNA doesn't have many that can do that

Only people that might be able to even slightly cover up Hardy's faults are Styles, Kash, Daniels, and maybe, MAYBE Abyss.

8. Monty- see Hardy

Let him learn how to wrestle better first. He has the natural charisma, has a natural presence in the ring, and even his uber-green matches from 2002 were pretty damn decent. Tell him to stop being the snarling beast and focus on doing the "predator/prey" gimmick SUBTLEY.

9. Kid Kash- too short

Kash is 5'8". Eddie Guerrero is 5'7". Tell me another one. He's the best heel on the roster, can work a solid match, and generates heat without even really trying. In TNA, no champion has been taller than 6'2" (Shamrock was 6', Truth is 6'1", Jarrett is 6'2", and Styles is 5'10"). Height is NOT a factor in whether or not a wrestler can be champion, as proven by Guerrero and Benoit in this year.

[AmazingRen 0]

Kash is 5'8". Eddie Guerrero is 5'7". Tell me another one. He's the best heel on the roster, can work a solid match, and generates heat without even really trying. In TNA, no champion has been taller than 6'2" (Shamrock was 6', Truth is 6'1", Jarrett is 6'2", and Styles is 5'10"). Height is NOT a factor in whether or not a wrestler can be champion, as proven by Guerrero and Benoit in this year.

Yeah, but Eddie and Benoit are jacked. Kid Kash needs more muscle. Do you think WWE would have gave Eddie the title if he looked like Eddie 2000?

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

If he was over enough? Yes.

 

Remember, the general trend in wrestling is towards smaller workers that are charismatic and can actually wrestle.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Does anyone really care anymore?

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

What gives you the idea Hardy will increase buys? "people do know him outside of wrestling". That means nothing. Hardy isn't a draw.

 

Thank you, thank you, thank God for you, the wind beneath my wings.

 

I've been screaming that since they signed the turd. I don't think they shoeld let the guy anywhere near the belt, though. As a matter of fact, almost anyone TNA put out there would be better than Hardy as champ.

[Guest Donners]

With WWE's ratings, perhaps that trend will be rethought.

 

 

1. Raven - Not sure. He has the charisma, name and mic skills, but I'm just not sure how well he could handle a variety of opponents and regular matches in his physical condition. Not the worst choice by any means.

 

2. AJ - Personally, I enjoy him more in the X Division and prefer he stays there. If the company really got off the ground and built up a solid audience of new fans, then I could see him making a great champion a couple of months in. In the near future, I can't really see what could be gained by giving him the belt again.

 

3. Chris Daniels - Not established as a singles wrestler in TNA (10 out of 51, for the person who asked) but he does have the skills. It would take a long-term build-up and I'm not sure whether that would be successful.

 

4. Truth - Never been overly enthused by him. He's a solid competitor, but I think he needs to find an uppermidcard spot and stay there.

 

5. Abyss - Wouldn't mind this at all, actually. He's shown the ability to work well with smaller guys and seems to lift up mediocre workers. Plus he has the size to be a powerful champion, which TNA has never really had. Mic work would be the only concern I'd have, but pair him with a manager and he could go far.

 

6. D'lo - Like Truth, he's just never stood out for me. I don't think he's ever had the crowd behind him, and he just doesn't seem to go anywhere.

 

7.Hardy - Couldn't see it. He's entertaining in short spurts, and has shown the ability to work with bigger guys (eg. Undertaker). I can't see him going all-out like he did in his best matches (eg. TLC), so even if he is in decent physical condition, he won't be putting on a top show in the ring. Out of the ring, he's nothing special either. It might get a few marks excited, but I couldn't see him being a successful champ.

 

8. Monty - Don't mind him at all. He's a home-grown talent for the most part, is always entertaining on the mic, has a great look and is getting a strong response from the crowd. In-ring is a problem, because I can't see him going more than 15 minutes (which is a problem for a main eventer), and nor can I see any exceptional matches.

 

9. Kid Kash - Doesn't have the committment to TNA if his comments were indeed a shoot, nor as far as I've seen the ability to do particularly well against bigger guys.

 

10. Other - Vince Russo? Jonny Fairplay? Can't think of anyone on the current roster. Of those outside it, I trust we can rule out the likes of Austin, Steiner and Goldberg. Maybe Masato Tanaka?

 

 

Abyss is my pick.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Give Abyss the Brock Lesnar push (with the Paul Heyman-type manager) and you have a star.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Is it possible that Abyss could stand on his own? I haven't seen him enough to know if he can talk at all. I know he's a pretty solid worker, and seems to be able to get over with a crowd. Does anyone know if he can talk at all?

[Guest Donners]

So who's the manager? There aren't many of Heyman quality running around. Mitchell doesn't seem right unless Abyss has a huge character change, I not sure Goldylocks is the right person for such an important job and there aren't really any other options that come to mind. Callis would have been great, but unfortunately he's not a possibility.

[Guest Donners]

Is it possible that Abyss could stand on his own? I haven't seen him enough to know if he can talk at all. I know he's a pretty solid worker, and seems to be able to get over with a crowd. Does anyone know if he can talk at all?

I'm sure I remember reading that he cut some solid promos with his Justice character. I'm not sure if they would suit his Abyss character though.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

I think Callis would of been the best choice.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I actually voted for Monty Brown and I don't know why.

 

I usually always pick the Truth...but he really needs to stop dancing and and go back to cutting serious promos like he was when he was super hot 2 years ago.

[thuganomics 0]

I voted for D'Lo, mostly because I'm a mark for him.

 

Honestly, I think giving a solid push to ANY of these people could help the company. Just removing Jarrett from the title picture would probably help buyrates for TNA, as I feel that mose people just don't want to see him as champ anymore.

 

But convincing the bigheaded oaf of that would probably prove nearly impossible.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

I usually always pick the Truth...but he really needs to stop dancing and and go back to cutting serious promos like he was when he was super hot 2 years ago.

 

I disagree with the dancing thing, as I think he could incorporate both into his character. What he needs is to be totally disassociated with those two bags of crao known as 3LK.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

I usually always pick the Truth...but he really needs to stop dancing and and go back to cutting serious promos like he was when he was super hot 2 years ago.

 

I disagree with the dancing thing, as I think he could incorporate both into his character. What he needs is to be totally disassociated with those two bags of crap known as 3LK.

Ding! We have a winner.....

 

WMD you win a box of Milk Duds.......

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Ummmm. Chocolatey pleasure.

 

Thanks for fixing my typo. Crap is a much stronger argument than crao.