Guest Leon Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Royal Rumble 2005 is set to emanate from the Selland arena in Fresno, CA. My question is: why would WWE hold the second biggest PPV of the year at an arena that only holds a capacity of 9,500 people? Surely they can sell out a 20,000 seat arena for the second biggest PPV of the year, right? Not to mention, Royal Rumble 1996 took place from Fresno, CA. What is WWE thinking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Maybe they'll move it to Oakland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Yeah, that's pretty weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tjhe CyNick Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I didn't know thats what building its in. I guess they aren't confident about selling out. I know Hartford didn't sell out for Vengeance, ditto for Norfolk for GAB. Now granted those are lesser PPVs, but maybe they just want to guarantee a sell out. They will probably make most of the tix pretty expensive, so they likely wont lose that much in revenues. I would wait to see how Cleveland does for SurvSer. If that show doesn't do big numbers right away then go to the smaller venue. On the other hand if SurvSer is an immediate sell out or close to it, then move to a 20,000 seater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I haven't seen a Royal Rumble in Canada, I don't think. But after SummerSlam I probably won't any time soon. Should've gone to Rosemont Horizon, even though the people that work there are pricks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 18, 2004 ... You know it WOULDN'T hurt to wait longer than 3 minutes before making a second post doing "...". I too find it odd though that the Rumble is held at a small arena....usually they do quite well in ticket sales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I haven't seen a Royal Rumble in Canada, I don't think. But after SummerSlam I probably won't any time soon. At least we got a bigger capacity than under 10,000 and it would SELL OUT. BTW, I thought SummerSlam was always the second biggest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 They'll just make the tickets much more expensive than they would be otherwise. This is the Royal Rumble - people will be willing to shell out the money. This is the same mentality they had behind WrestleMania XX. A lot of people couldn't understand why they had gone from dome arenas - filled with 50,000+ seats - to suddenly bringing the show back to Madison Square Garden, which holds little over 20,000 people. Well, they also highly increased the prices of their tickets at WrestleMania XX as compared to the prices of tickets from years past. You figure this is what they will do at the Royal Rumble. Ticket prices will actually be a lot higher, bringing them near the same amount of revenue as from years past when they held the event in bigger arenas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I think they should tell Fresno to screw off and come HERE....IN VANCOUVER! Damn WWE, we haven't had a PPV here in 5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I haven't seen a Royal Rumble in Canada The original one in 1988 was held in Hamilton, Ontario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Well I still haven't seen '88. As a Royal Rumble enthusiast, I think I've seen every single one except 1988 and 2003. Yes, even the rare 1995. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJMc 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 You know it WOULDN'T hurt to wait longer than 3 minutes before making a second post doing "...". Fucking right. I saw that and I couldn't believe it. -Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Who do you think is going to win it this year? My money's on Orton, to try and erase away yet another memory of Brock Lesnar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 "No faith in selling out the PPV" has NO validity. The Royal Rumble is the SECOND MOST POPULAR and THIRD "biggest" PPV of the year... It has NO problem selling out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tino Standard 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I didn't know thats what building its in. I guess they aren't confident about selling out. I know Hartford didn't sell out for Vengeance, ditto for Norfolk for GAB. Now granted those are lesser PPVs, but maybe they just want to guarantee a sell out. They will probably make most of the tix pretty expensive, so they likely wont lose that much in revenues. I would wait to see how Cleveland does for SurvSer. If that show doesn't do big numbers right away then go to the smaller venue. On the other hand if SurvSer is an immediate sell out or close to it, then move to a 20,000 seater. I, too, am curious to see how well Survivor Series does. Raw last week at Gund did substantially better than the SmackDown show in March, but they still only had about 7,000 people there. InVasion (the last Cleveland PPV) drew roughly 17,000. I could see Survivor Series doing somewhere around 12-15,000, but I'd be stunned if it sells out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Who do you think is going to win it this year? My money's on Orton, to try and erase away yet another memory of Brock Lesnar. I say John Cena. Judging by the first two Rumbles and Wrestlemania's of the "brand split era", they've alternated between a Smackdown guy winning the RR(and headlining WM) to a RAW guy winning and headlining WM(Although Benoit wasn't on RAW when he won, but he ended up there the next night). So I see Cena winning and maybe facing Kurt Angle at WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Two Smackdown guys won Rumbles since the brans split, so maybe 3 times a charm for RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 F*ck Vancouver, Royal Rumble in Montreal or Calgary. Benoit's win was really a RAW win, because he jumpshipped to RAW and mainevented a RAW main event at Wrestlemania. I say John Cena as the winner. He is the most over face in the company without a title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Yes, even the rare 1995. What's so rare about the 1995 Royal Rumble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Batman5000 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I believe the 95 Royal Rumble was rare because it had 60 sec entries. Which made the entire Rumble only 30 mins long. So even though Michaels won it at number one it wasn't as impressive as Flair's or Benoit's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Royal Rumble 2005 is set to emanate from the Selland arena in Fresno, CA. My question is: why would WWE hold the second biggest PPV of the year at an arena that only holds a capacity of 9,500 people? Surely they can sell out a 20,000 seat arena for the second biggest PPV of the year, right? Not to mention, Royal Rumble 1996 took place from Fresno, CA. What is WWE thinking? There IS a bigger arena in Fresno, CA - the Save Mart Center on the Cal State Fresno Campus. It's a brand-spankin' new arena - the stats on savemartcenter.com say it holds almost 14,000 for hockey, so I'm sure for an event as big as the Rumble, that's where it'll be if it's in Fresno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phoenix Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I don't care where they hold it as long as it is good. This is what I think is going to happen in the 2005 Royal Rumble. If a Raw superstar wins it is going to be HHH. I am not even going to try and make a prediction about that or anything. I am just gonna state the facts. If he doesn't have the belt and wants it back. He is winning the Rumble no questions and he will come in Number 1 and beat the record for staying in the longest. If a smackdown superstar wins it. It is going to be John Cena and he will go to Wrestlemania and face the WWE Champion. Which by then I think will be The Undertaker. This would mean that John Cena would end the 12-0 streak of The Undertaker at Wrestlemaina making him the most over wrestler in the company. He would be known as the man that did the impossible. He beat The Undertaker at Mania. No man could say they have done that, and then they could turn him heel and let him turn on the fans by saying some shit like "You people didn't cheer for me, and I did the impossible" "I beat the deadman at Wrestlemania. No one has done what I have done". If this would happen I would be breaking my prediction of 13-0 which I make every year when it hits August 1st. I think if they can convince Mark that it would be good for the company and skyrocket Cena to superstardom he would go with it. That it what I have to say about this whole thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I believe the 95 Royal Rumble was rare because it had 60 sec entries. Which made the entire Rumble only 30 mins long. So even though Michaels won it at number one it wasn't as impressive as Flair's or Benoit's. I know that they changed the entry time from 120 to 60 seconds (which I thought was a crappy move) but I don't understand how that makes the 1995 Royal Rumble rare. I mean, is it hard to track down on video or did it not get an official release or something. Or is it just becuase of the 60 second entries. Can somebody explain it to me please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I believe the 95 Royal Rumble was rare because it had 60 sec entries. Which made the entire Rumble only 30 mins long. So even though Michaels won it at number one it wasn't as impressive as Flair's or Benoit's. Also, in my personal experiences, it's unnaturally hard to find at video stores, even those with great wrestling sections. See also: Survivor Series '93 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I might be wrong on this, but I saw a list of the places for their next 8 PPV's or so....and the buildings are all small. I guess the WWE is really scaling back the dates of shows running in the bigger buildings since attendance has been falling for years now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I don't expect Cena to win the Rumble if it ends up with him having a ME slot with Taker at WM XXI. Undertaker would never want to lose his streak. I'm sure he wouldn't mind giving Cena the rub, but I'm positive he wouldn't do it at WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I believe the 95 Royal Rumble was rare because it had 60 sec entries. Which made the entire Rumble only 30 mins long. So even though Michaels won it at number one it wasn't as impressive as Flair's or Benoit's. Also, in my personal experiences, it's unnaturally hard to find at video stores, even those with great wrestling sections. See also: Survivor Series '93 OK, the whole rareness thing makes sense now. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Actually, Orton ending the UT's legendary streak seems more plausible. If Trips puts over Orton then I think it might be possible for Taker to be persauded to put Orton over. It fits the legend killer gimmick perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 UT's streak should never be broken. I'm not even a big Taker fan, I just think it's nothing that should be broken. Cena Vs. Angle would be a better main event for Wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
