Final Roster for PS2's WWE SmackDown vs. RAW

[Guest Metallica]

No Rock either.

 

Odd.

I think I read that Rock will be in as a legend (along with Foley) this time (big sideburns Rock from 1998)

[Robert 0]

Personally I'd rather have a roster of like thirty people, and better graphics. What I didn't like about another wrestling game that came out it had sixty people in it, and it sucked. Bugs, bad graphics, and bad selling. For me, quality over quantity, I'm definetly buying this and The Punisher game coming out.

[Angelus 0]

No Rock either.

 

Odd.

I think I read that Rock will be in as a legend (along with Foley) this time (big sideburns Rock from 1998)

But i want The Rock from 2004 not the fat one

[Guest Quik]

I played the shit out of HCTP, and I'm gonna play the shit out of this one. They'll probly throw most of London's moves in the CAW, so you can create him if you want to play as him so badly.

 

ON a lighter note, HCTP was a game that I had a shitload of fun playing stoned (much like SUper Smash Bros), so I can only imagine how great it will be the first time I play this game under the influence and see the new player models in action. Should be trippy.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Piper, Snuka & BRUTUS BEEFCAKE are the new legends.

 

Ugh.

 

UYI

[Fökai 0]

Piper, Snuka & BRUTUS BEEFCAKE are the new legends.

 

Ugh.

 

UYI

Well, Snuka was in the last game, but I know what you mean...

[dubq 0]

Piper, Snuka & BRUTUS BEEFCAKE are the new legends.

 

Ugh.

 

UYI

There're still four more who will be revealed tomorrow at IGN.com, and the Million Dollar Man had BETTER be one of them!!

[Aero 0]

There're still four more who will be revealed tomorrow at IGN.com, and the Million Dollar Man had BETTER be one of them!!

I second that. DiBiase was probably one of my favorites in the entire game. Now if they put in DiBiase and entrance music this time around, we're set.

[dubq 0]

There're still four more who will be revealed tomorrow at IGN.com, and the Million Dollar Man had BETTER be one of them!!

I second that. DiBiase was probably one of my favorites in the entire game. Now if they put in DiBiase and entrance music this time around, we're set.

Dude, I would die to hear "Money, Money, Money, Money, Moneeeeeeyyyy" in a Smackdown game.

 

Seriously, DiBiase was the only legend I used in HCTP and in season mode.

[Guest bigm350]

I wonder if they'll add Hogan in as a legend. I think they should.

[dubq 0]

I wonder if they'll add Hogan in as a legend. I think they should.

It's not about if they should, it's about if Hogan and WWE can come to terms on contracts and money and all of that. Highly doubtful that he's in this year, though.

[Guest bigm350]

I wonder if they'll add Hogan in as a legend. I think they should.

It's not about if they should, it's about if Hogan and WWE can come to terms on contracts and money and all of that. Highly doubtful that he's in this year, though.

Yeah, thats got to be the only reason why Hogan wouldn't be included.

[Skywarp! 0]

...Especially since you know that invincibility surges were created with people like Hogan and Warrior in mind.

[Golgo 13 0]

I was thinking about the legends, and in addition to Rock, I wouldn't be surprised to see Austin show up either.

[PsychoDriver 0]

That sucks. Granted I usually play as CAWs, but it's still upsetting to see the lack of London, Kidman, Noble, Hurricane, Spike Dudley ETC

 

I blame it on the character voice feature. They'd be able to add in more wrestlers if they didn't have to waste all that time recording pointless voice overs.

 

Oh well, on the bright side... Bret Hart is a fantastic addition. I hope Owen is in as well...

[Golgo 13 0]

While there will ALWAYS be omissions no matter what, I will hold blame over the legends roster for there not being more of the current roster.

 

I'd much rather have wrestlers in the game who have every right to be rather than wrestlers who are a distant memory, have no current association, etc.

 

While it's a nice bonus and I don't necessarily mind guys like DiBiase, Snuka, Piper, Hart, Giant, etc, there are some extremely worthless fucks who aren't even in the same class as the above, and you have to question why the fuck their spot isn't going toward the fucking brand champions or those who have been in WWE for a few years running now (Noble), but still can't get in a game.

 

And yes, while some guys can be said to be alike with no play value, other wrestlers like Noble, London, Hurricane and Kidman are different enough from the roster that it's worth playing through with them at least once.

[Silence 0]

I blame it on the character voice feature. They'd be able to add in more wrestlers if they didn't have to waste all that time recording pointless voice overs.

Just like I said a while ago, along with too many other features being added (some are welcome, some aren't) and the Legends. Wrestlers like Paul London and Billy Kidman don't even use catchphrases on WWE TV since they don't talk that much on-camera, which is why I question why Yukes even bothered adding the voiceovers in the first place.

[Guest Dazed]

Rock, Foley and the Road Warriors are the final 4 legends.

[Rendclaw 0]

Stop bitching about the cruiserweights.

 

They aren't all that popular in the eyes of the E, no matter what us fans and smarks might think. This was no fault of Yuke's because they will only put the characters in the game that they are told to, and that is up to WWE.

 

Do I think that there should be more wrestlers in the game? Without a doubt. Do I think that the voice-over feature is a gimmick, and the game would be much better served by removing it? Absolutely. At the same time, the roster is not going to have an impact on my opinion of buying it, because I am going to enjoy making a CAW and running through the entire game at least twice before I turn to making more CAWs and doing the same. Thats what I always do. I know this game is going to be far from perfect, and I am going to do my share of bitching about some facet of gameplay or another. But considering the utter piece of shit that Showdown was, and I really don;t want to spend the extra $$ getting my PS modded in order to get the better Japanese wrestling games, I am willing to go into playing Smackdown vs. RAW with an open mind.

 

Rent it if you must, buy it if you want to, but getting all bent out of shape because a few wrestlers aren't in it? Please.

[the max 0]

God forbid people post opinions on an opinion based message board, right?

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

God forbid Yukes make a complete roster.

[Exslade ZX 0]

Really though, there is more complaining about the roster then it should be it seems, when it's not that big of a difference. Hell..this is copied verbatim from another message board (EWB for those who dont know) and it shows you..that the roster isn't as horrible as it may seem..

 

Just a comparison of the rosters from SDvsRAW and HCTP.

 

HCTP SDvsRAW

 

A-Train --------------------------- A-Train

Batista ---------------------------- Batista

Big Show ------------------------- Big Show

Booker T ------------------------- Booker T

Brock Lesnar

Bubba Ray Dudley ---------------- Bubba Ray Dudley

Charlie Haas ---------------------- Charlie Haas

Chavo Guererro ------------------ Chavo Guererro

Chris Benoit ----------------------- Chris Benoit

Chris Jericho ---------------------- Chris Jericho

Christian -------------------------- Christian

D-Von Dudley -------------------- D-von Dudley

Eddie Guererro ------------------- Eddie Guererro

Edge ------------------------------ Edge

Eric Bischoff

Goldberg

Goldust

The Hurricane

Jazz

John Cena ------------------------ John Cena

Kane ------------------------------ Kane

Kevin Nash

Kurt Angle ------------------------ Kurt Angle

Lance Storm

Lita

Matt Hardy ------------------------ Matt Hardy

Randy Orton ---------------------- Randy Orton

Rey Mysterio ---------------------- Rey Mysterio

Rhyno ----------------------------- Rhyno

Ric Flair --------------------------- Ric Flair

Rico ------------------------------- Rico

Rikishi

Rob Van Dam --------------------- Rob Van Dam

The Rock -------------------------- The Rock (legend)

Rodney Mack

Sable ------------------------------- Sable

Scott Steiner

Sean O'haire

Shawn Michaels -------------------- Shawn Michaels

Shelton Benjamin ------------------ Shelton Benjamin

Stacy Keibler ----------------------- Stacy Keibler

Stephanie McMahon

Steve Austin

Steven Richards

Tajiri -------------------------------- Tajiri

Test

Torrie Wilson ----------------------- Torrie Wilson

Triple H ----------------------------- Triple H

Trish Stratus ------------------------ Trish Stratus

Ultimo Dragon

Undertaker -------------------------- Undertaker

Val Venis

Victoria ------------------------------ Victoria

Vince Mcmahon

 

Basically when you compare the two (only who were in both), while not being seeming as 'huge' as the HCTP roster looked...look at the guys they took out. Not really many people of importance..:/

 

People taken out

Brock Lesnar

Eric Bischoff

Goldberg

Goldust

The Hurricane

Jazz

Lance Storm

Lita

Rikishi

Scott Steiner

Sean O'haire

Stephanie McMahon

Steve Austin

Steven Richards

Test

Ultimo Dragon

Val Venis

Vince Mcmahon

 

Seems like a lot right? But really..the only ones of notice are Lesnar, Goldberg, Austin, and Steiner...none of which are in WWE anymore. And those of note to maybe the 'smark crowd' The Hurricane..and O'haire. One not being in WWE anymore..and Hurricane is only used as a jobber. Don't see why they'd take him out, when he's been in since SYM..but still he's not really an important character in the wwe, yes..even less so then A-train. Especially when you look at the time span of the game, which contains a ppv that featured Atrain/Benoit whereas, I don't believe Hurricane had a ppv match at all? And plus

 

People that were added

Chuck Palumbo

Garrison Cade

Hardcore Holly

J.B. Layfield

Mark Jindrak

Molly Holly

Rene Dupree

Scotty 2 Hotty

 

Now of course...a few of those are jobbers yea..but Steven Richards was a jobber, and HCTP and no one complained. Ultimo Dragon..who did, NOTHING was in HCTP, but again, no one complained. Now don't get me wrong..I do know there are still guys like Jamie Noble/La Resistance who've yet to make it into the game, or the likes of London, Eugene and such...but when you compare the two rosters of the game in numbers (not including legends), it's SDvsRAW (41) to HCTP (54) and when you look at the list of people taken out..compared to that of people added in, it truly doesn't seem as horrible. I mean...(Eric Bischoff, Goldust, Jazz, Lita, Rikishi, Stephanie, Test, Val Venis..) Me personally..I think I would have taken Rene Dupree..and the chance to see JBL get what he deserves, for all those wrestlers I just listed.

[Golgo 13 0]

People ALWAYS complain about the roster, every year, no matter what. This is par for the course. Although I don't consider what I said "complaining" or "getting all bent out of shape" despite the excessive use of cursing, which I just noticed. Visit the GameFAQs boards if you want to see real complaining.

 

Also, it's not about game versus game comparisons. It's a moot point, considering the amount of turnover from year to year. Frankly, the disturbing thing is the noticable problem with Yuke's priorities, with the sudden drop off of 13 or so wrestlers due to so-called "improvements."

 

To me, it's about who deserves to be in the game and who doesn't. La Resistance have been tag team champions for how long now? When was the last time Cade was on Raw? When were people clamoring for fucking Brutus Beefcake? There's just no excuse in some of these guy's cases.

[Rendclaw 0]

People ALWAYS complain about the roster, every year, no matter what. This is par for the course. Although I don't consider what I said "complaining" or "getting all bent out of shape" despite the excessive use of cursing, which I just noticed. Visit the GameFAQs boards if you want to see real complaining.

 

Please. I have no desire to tangle with kids who can't write a complete sentence, much less try to explain to them why X wrestler isn't in the game. I'm more or less agreeing with you, it just makes me chuckle how some in this thread are bitching so much about what turns out to be five wrestlers.

 

And yes, there is always going to be bitching before the release of these games. That goes without saying. It just strikes me as amusing when someone says that they won;t buy a game, or they'll trash it or the companies involved because this or that wrestler isn't in it. Considering that these games Yuke's and WWE put out consistently sell, it stands to reason they aren;t going to change the formula TOO much, and they try and keep the roster up to date. To some extent its like the sports games, basketball in particular. By a certain date, they go with the roster that is the most accurate, not accounting for retirements, trades, injuries and the like. Same thing here. For example, I will bet money that by the time Eugene became such main character, development was in the home stretch. Too late to add him, but they can throw in a moveset and with some creativity, a decent CAW can be made. If thats not good enough, thats too bad, says I.

 

I understand that there are some roster emissions. That always going to happen. HCTPs was the most complete roster they had, and they *still* left off some people that deserved to be on there. The way I see it, every wrestler on the roster should be on there with no exceptions. To me, that would make for a much better experience for the game. But as long as they keep going with the bells and whistles, this kind of thing will always happen.

 

As for the Legends, I don;t have a problem with Beefcake being in there, King. Will I play him? Unless I am forced to in a storyline. I love beating the legends myself, it gives me a nice little sense of accomplishment since they can be as hard to beat as some of them Main Event tier guys, especially when you're trying to build up a CAW. Not to mention the nostalgia of being such a mark for them back in the day.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Guys, Eugene is practically impossible to put in the video game right now. For a convincing Eugene, you have to include his funny walk, make a whole bunch of finishing moves that are non-SmackDowns, and then what do you do for a real SmackDown when the guy has no finishing moves of his own?

 

I mean, seriously, I guess left-grapple-up can be the Hulk ripoff no-sell, but left-grapple-right can be a Rock Bottom that doesn't get a pin?

 

The guy is 100% gimmick right now. If they can tame it down, it'll appear in time.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

And when Eugene 'tames down', no one will care and he'll disappear into mediocrity.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Guys, Eugene is practically impossible to put in the video game right now. For a convincing Eugene, you have to include his funny walk, make a whole bunch of finishing moves that are non-SmackDowns, and then what do you do for a real SmackDown when the guy has no finishing moves of his own?

 

I mean, seriously, I guess left-grapple-up can be the Hulk ripoff no-sell, but left-grapple-right can be a Rock Bottom that doesn't get a pin?

 

The guy is 100% gimmick right now. If they can tame it down, it'll appear in time.

Oh geez a different walk and different finishers (a Rock Bottom and an Airplane Spin).

 

What a fucking joke.

[Guest bigm350]

Personally, I could care less if Eugene is in the game or not. Like was said before, he has way too many mannerisms and quirks to include into a cookie cutter type model I guess.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

he has way too many mannerisms and quirks to include into a cookie cutter type model I guess.

Bull.

[Guest bigm350]

he has way too many mannerisms and quirks to include into a cookie cutter type model I guess.

Bull.

Like I already said, I could care less about Eugene, I'm still going to buy the game. And I'm sure there will be an easy way to make a CAW of him.