What to do with Trips and Orton until SS?

[Guest Rock-a-jabroni]

Instead of blowing the first major match of their new feud on a pay per view such as Unforgiven, I think WWE should save the first clash between the two for a larger stage, specifically Survivor Series. This will especially allow a lot more time to build the feud, since -- as of last night -- it was just dropped right in our laps.

 

I figure Orton and Benoit could have a rematch at Unforgiven, with some interference by Trips to ensure that Orton retains the title, with H's motivation being that he wants to take the belt back from Orton specifically, since "he's a punk."

 

In the meantime, a Triple H versus William Regal match would be a great addition to the Unforgiven card. While Orton and Hunter's focus will primarily be on their Unforgiven opponents for the next month, they will constantly have thoughts of one another in the back of their minds, and will confront each other on occasion.

 

After Unforgiven, it's smooth sailing to SummerSlam, with the bad blood really beginning to boil. A Benoit/HHH match could be featured on Raw during this time so Hunter can get his job back from Benoit, and Orton could obviously pull something during the match.

 

If I had my way, I wouldn't have kicked off this feud so blatantly and abruptly, but since that's not up to me, I figure this would be a good way to save any real clashes between the two for a little while, anyway, instead of blowing such a potential moneymaker within it's first month of existance.

 

Thoughts? Better ideas? Anyone?

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

Not a bad idea that, maybe since they've done the handshake angle between Benoit and Orton, that they could be established as allies. And since Regal has an issue with HHH chuck him in too, leading a Unforgiven match of Orton/Benoit/Regal vs Evolution. HHH cheats to get the win on Orton, to further build to their one on one match.

[St. Gabe 0]

We haven't seen an Elimination Chamber yet this year, why not have that be the Unforgiven Main Event With

 

Benoit

Orton

HHH

Edge

Jericho

Batista

 

At least that would be almost making the story lines fit together, IC and World Title that is. This would delay a one on one match with Trips/Orton, and would probably get me to buy the ppv. Maybe even somehow have the IC belt on the line in the match as well.

[BHK 0]

Instead of blowing the first major match of their new feud on a pay per view such as Unforgiven, I think WWE should save the first clash between the two for a larger stage, specifically Survivor Series. This will especially allow a lot more time to build the feud, since -- as of last night -- it was just dropped right in our laps.

 

 

I totally agree with you. However, you think that after they give us a heel turn that should have been built up over at LEEAST 3 Raws, they're going to hold off until Survivor Series?

 

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[Guest Leon]

Apparently, WWE wants to go ahead with a Triple H vs. Orton match at Unforgiven to combat low ratings and the NFL.

 

If the Orton-HHH program proves to be a hot one, WWE may have that match again at WrestleMania. If not, however, they will likely go with an interpromotional bout like Orton vs. Cena, Orton vs. Angle or Orton vs. Undertaker.

 

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[Vyce 0]

Apparently, WWE wants to go ahead with a Triple H vs. Orton match at Unforgiven to combat low ratings and the NFL.

 

If the Orton-HHH program proves to be a hot one, WWE may have that match again at WrestleMania. If not, however, they will likely go with an interpromotional bout like Orton vs. Cena, Orton vs. Angle or Orton vs. Undertaker.

 

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Oh my.

 

Orton v Angle is the only one of those I can picture being any good, if Angle has his working boots on.

 

Of course, I'd like to see Orton v. Taker, just because I know who'd win.

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

I think they have to do Orton-HHH at Unforgiven based on what happened Monday.

 

If Orton is a babyface now he's going to be pissed and demand a match with Hunter. Hunter wants his belt back so he'd likely jump at the opportunity.

 

It doesn't really make much sense for HHH to allow anyone else to get a title shot. Benoit makes a bit of sense, but he's already lost his rematch, so I cant see him getting a shot. Only other guy that makes a bit of sense is Edge, but he's tied up with Jericho.

 

My thinking is that they do HHH-Orton at Unforgiven, HHH wins, then they do an Elimination Chamber match at Taboo Tuesday show and of course Hunter retains. Perhaps they could do somehting there where HHH says Orton can have a rematch but only if its in the Chamber. Then leading up to the match Orton gets injured by Evo and he loses his spot. HHH could then continue his program with Eugene through SurvSer. And then they'd have to come up with something for him to do between SurvSer and Mania (why not HBK again?)

 

Orton could fued with teh Evo guys like Batista and Flair and work his way up to the Rumble where he wins the title shot and gets HUnter at Mania.

[Epic Reine 0]

Orton? That'd be the SUPER biggest way to put Orton over. Getting a big title victory/defense over UnderTaker at WrestleMania and ENDING his streak. And having Taker retire then [huge plus in that too]. And then thats another name for Orton's "list".

[Guest Loss]

That may sound good, but Taker will probably wrestle another 10 years at least.

[Epic Reine 0]

That would make baby Allah cry.

[1234-5678 0]

Orton/HHH should be saved for Mania, no ifs, ands or buts about it. Blowing that match at Unforgiven will be unforgivably stupid.

[Dark Age 0]

Orton? That'd be the SUPER biggest way to put Orton over. Getting a big title victory/defense over UnderTaker at WrestleMania and ENDING his streak. And having Taker retire then [huge plus in that too]. And then thats another name for Orton's "list".

 

Because Orton needs the rub? Seriously, Orton will be pushed huge and get over no matter what. Why waste Taker's job (as if he'll lose anyway) on him? Why not give it someone who could be helped by it?

[Guest Staravenger]

Orton/HHH should be saved for Mania, no ifs, ands or buts about it. Blowing that match at Unforgiven will be unforgivably stupid.

It didn't stop 8,000 matches between Triple H & Shawn Michaels this year in their epic feud. As long as they have no serious contact until next year, its fine, but that means Triple H wins the World Title most likely.

[iggymcfly 0]

Saving the match for Survivor Series doesn't really work because there's two PPVs between now and then. I for one, think they should just give us the best main event they can while the iron is hot, and not make us wait until no one gives a shit.

 

Right now, if they run Orton/HHH at Unforgiven, people will probably be into it, and it should get a very good buyrate. If they wait until SS or Mania, it's very likely that the feud will get stale and will never recapture the heat it has right now. Remember in 2001 when they decided to "save" Rock/Austin III for WM X-8? Well, we all know how well that turned out.

 

And when did Orton/HHH get anointed the absolute main event of Wrestlemania anyway? I mean sure it's a good match that was rumored to maybe go down at Wrestlemania, but it's not exactly Rock/Austin in stature. I'm sure they could easily find another main event that would draw just as well.

[Guest NitroJMS]

And when did Orton/HHH get anointed the absolute main event of Wrestlemania anyway? I mean sure it's a good match that was rumored to maybe go down at Wrestlemania, but it's not exactly Rock/Austin in stature. I'm sure they could easily find another main event that would draw just as well.

I'd actually like to see Rock/Orton somehow at WM21. Pinning the Rock in L.A. would get Orton over big time, and it's probably the only show Rock will work next year anyway so he might as well put over another future star that has shades of himself.

[Guest Rock-a-jabroni]

If we're making forecasts all the way to Mania now, I think mostly everyone could agree on this as a Main Event, especially since it would work so well if Rock pulled a jealously angle:

 

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Rock is totally the wrong choice for WrestleMania because of his weird habit of elicting the exact opposite crowd response that the WWE wants. If they have him in against Orton as a heel he'll get face pops and if they have him in as a face he'll get heel heat.

[Guest Rock-a-jabroni]

Rock is totally the wrong choice for WrestleMania because of his weird habit of elicting the exact opposite crowd response that the WWE wants. If they have him in against Orton as a heel he'll get face pops and if they have him in as a face he'll get heel heat.

Will that really matter, though? Seriously. I don't care if they're both faces for the match, it would still draw, and would likely still kick ass. I do understand your point though -- I don't think WWE will ever be able to get Rock over as a heel again.

[Guest Brian]

If they're going to get miles out of this feud, they need to inject Benoit back in. Plus he's going to get lost. They should have had him run off Evolution then smash Orton, to keep Orton and Benoit at odds as well Benoit and Trips. I'm still assuming they're shooting for Mania for HHH/Orton. You run Benoit v. Trips for a while with Batista/Flair v. Orton (keeping Trips close). November or December, Orton drops the title to HHH due to interference, wins it back at Mania. I'd even have Rock in the rumble, vs. Orton at No Way Out, and vs. Benoit at Mania. Anyways, Trips drops to Orton in the big blow-off at Mania, loses the next night on RAW, then Batista and Flair turn on Triple H (something along the lines of "Triple H got the short end of the evolution stick. He couldn't measure up to me, and Dave here is the next big thing.")

[The Mountie 0]

The HHH turn basically revolves around his jealousy of Orton holding the title. The only way to keep them apart now really would be to have someone contest Trips having the title shot, but Benoit has been pinned twice now by Orton, and noone else is really in the main event picture. Besides, Orton will surely want retribution on HHH right away.

 

They will headline Unforgiven alright. Anyway, slow burn is boring if you know the exact plan up until 'Mania. Twists in the plots keep it interesting, no? Admit it, very few people saw Monday's turn coming on that night. This is what we want as fans essentially - sensible booking and surprises that make sense, leading to bigmatches.

[Promoter 0]

If we're making forecasts all the way to Mania now, I think mostly everyone could agree on this as a Main Event, especially since it would work so well if Rock pulled a jealously angle:

 

I believe this is the MONEY MATCH for Randy Orton. I also think the wwe coule be working the smarks with this HHH/Orton Mania stuff. I believe the rumours were that Orton would turn face and then turn back heel. If he goes over HHH and is champion heading into Mania Orton has a storyline of defeating the one man The Rock always had trouble toppling and that was Triple H. Isn't Rock's contract up next year? If Rock is used to get anyone over before leaving for hollywood Orton is the guy to do it. Heel Orton against face Rock works. You know who I would build to face Triple H? John Cena in an interpromotional match or make him jump to raw.

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

The HHH turn basically revolves around his jealousy of Orton holding the title. The only way to keep them apart now really would be to have someone contest Trips having the title shot, but Benoit has been pinned twice now by Orton, and noone else is really in the main event picture. Besides, Orton will surely want retribution on HHH right away.

 

They will headline Unforgiven alright. Anyway, slow burn is boring if you know the exact plan up until 'Mania. Twists in the plots keep it interesting, no? Admit it, very few people saw Monday's turn coming on that night. This is what we want as fans essentially - sensible booking and surprises that make sense, leading to bigmatches.

Ive been saying the same thing about the Unforgiven main event. Any other match in that spot makes little to no sense. Like you said, Orton will want revenge on HHH and HHH obviously wants the belt ASAP.

 

I disagree about the surprise thing. I like sensible storyline, if they are predictable a lot of times that means they have been booked right. The day after WM IV I knew the ME of WM V was going to be HOgan v Savage, but they still did a masterful job building to that match.

 

I would have rather seen a slow build to the turn rather than blowing it off in one night. And I wasn't surprised by it all, as soon as they did that segment in the back with HHH and Orton I could tell he was turning on Orton.

 

As for the suggestion of Rock v Orton at Mania, I would like it if Orton was the champ and he defended against Rock. But it seems like Hunter will be the champ and Orton needs to win it back at Mania. Unless they did something where Orton got screwed out of the Rumble by Evo and then Hunter faces someone else at Mania, while Orton goes against Rock is a face vs face match. Orton wins, and he gets a title shot at Hunter at Backlash. That gives Backlash some extra umph and give Orton the big Rocky rub.

 

However, in the long run, I think its better to have Orton go over on the big stage of Wrestlemania.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Screw Orton / Rock. Give me HBK / Rock, now THAT would be a Wrestlemania match.

 

 

[bob_barron 0]

What has happened to The Rock's sideburns over 4 years?

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Damn you. You forgot to blur out the logo.

[Promoter 0]

Rock only has side burns when he's heel Rock. I don't consider his last heel run as a real one as it was only done for the match with Austin(and the New York RAW X crowd booing the hell out of him).

 

I think having Angle/HBK and Rock/Orton and Cena/Triple H are the best bets to increase the match quality and draw of Mania 21. These are all fresh match-ups and Rock and HHH should put over the new guys in Orton and Cena in theory. Angle/HBK can bring down the house if both are tip top.

[The Tino Standard 0]

We haven't seen an Elimination Chamber yet this year, why not have that be the Unforgiven Main Event With

 

Benoit

Orton

HHH

Edge

Jericho

Batista

 

At least that would be almost making the story lines fit together, IC and World Title that is. This would delay a one on one match with Trips/Orton, and would probably get me to buy the ppv. Maybe even somehow have the IC belt on the line in the match as well.

Having an Elimination Chamber match on a brand-specific PPV like Unforgiven is a bit of a problem because you still have to fill out the rest of the card. I know a lot of the brand PPVs are one-trick ponies anyways, but if you put all six of your top guys in one match, that leaves you REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill up the other 2 hours.