Doomsday Cage Match

[The Czech Republic 0]

Crappy match. IIRC it was Hogan and Savage against:

 

Ric Flair

Arn Anderson

Lex Luger

Kevin Sullivan

Meng

The Barbarian

The Ultimate Solution

Z-Gangsta

 

 

And it was a bunch of cages stacked up. Does anyone remember what the rules were for the match? I don't think the structure had any structure. Oh, a pun. I haven't seen this PPV in four years, so a refresher would be neat. Thanks

[Guest Staravenger]

I assume it was to escape the cage, since they started in the top and had top work down. They did...and the match continued. Then crap happens and the Bootylicious Man helps the good guys by bring them FRYING PANS.

 

Everything else is wiped from my memory.

[Guest ian.]

You had to pin someone, I guess on each level. They escaped the cage a couple times during the match, and it didn't end. Z gangsta and some other dude didn't show up till the end of the match.

 

Savage and Hogan got some powder and frying pans from Booty man, i think, and they used it against all of the members of the dungeon, who got down to the lower level somehow. Flair ended up holding hogan while Lex was going to nail him, but Hogan moved and Lex stopped his movement for about 3-5 seconds, then hit Flair. I don't know if it was planned or not. Savage then pinned Flair and they won.

[Si82 0]

Did they ever actually explain the rules for the match?

 

I know Bobby Heenan said "How do you win this, Schiavone?"

[Fökai 0]

You had to pin someone, I guess on each level. They escaped the cage a couple times during the match, and it didn't end.

 

I'm pretty sure (judging by memory of how the match went), that a decision had to be rendered at the bottom ring. I remember Hogan and Savage just attempting to get past Meng/Barbarian (first wave) and the Horsemen (second wave) as quickly as possible. The original premise of the match was for the faces to just escape the cage, but the convoluted booking of the WCW at that time screwed with everyone's head.

 

Savage and Hogan got some powder and frying pans from Booty man, i think,

 

Yep.

 

and they used it against all of the members of the dungeon, who got down to the lower level somehow.

 

In some horrible twist of booking, the heels on the top cages were allowed to follow Hogan and Savage to the bottom ring. Again, the odds were stacked up soooo bad against the faces, that it would've been completely illogical if Hogan and Savage had won this match.

 

Oh wait...

 

Flair ended up holding hogan while Lex was going to nail him, but Hogan moved and Lex stopped his movement for about 3-5 seconds, then hit Flair. I don't know if it was planned or not. Savage then pinned Flair and they won.

 

They originally ran with the "can the heels trust Luger?" storyline, but the fans didn't really buy into it, considering that Luger had attacked a top face (Animal) earlier in the night.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I assume there were no concrete rules to this match; they just had a surplus of cyclone fencing, a bad angle, and said "have at it, boys"

[JHawk 0]

Also remember that after the wrestlecrap that was Uncensored 1995, everybody pretty much assumed that logic was going to be thrown out the window. That's why Uncensored never did a decent buyrate...or even had a decent lineup to make people care to buy the show.

[Si82 0]

Also remember that after the wrestlecrap that was Uncensored 1995, everybody pretty much assumed that logic was going to be thrown out the window. That's why Uncensored never did a decent buyrate...or even had a decent lineup to make people care to buy the show.

Uncensored did a decent 1.2 buy rate in 1998.

 

In 1997 it drew a decent 0.9 buy rate which out drew Wrestlemania's 0.78 buy rate.

 

So it didn't do that badly all the time.

[Guest Staravenger]

The 1997 version can be credited to the nWo being at it's hottest. Don't know why 1998 did so good.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Another thing about the cage was that they rushed Pillman onto Nitro doing his "1-900-PILLMAN" gimmick in the crowd (he was running around weilding the sign, and doing his loose cannon schtick while also working ECW as part of the "shoot" with Sullivan) and made it seem like he'd be a part of the match somehow (which thankfully, he never was).

[Dewe 0]

I think Meltzer said that Pillman refused to be a part of the match, because he knew that it would be the worst match ever.

[Zack Malibu 0]

That's exactly it. He didn't want to hurt his surge in popularity by playing a patsy to Hogan and Savage. I don't blame him for it at all.

[Downhome 0]

I also believe at the very end of the match, when Hogan and Savage was leaving the cage...Savage totally forgot to make the pin. So as he started to leave the cage, for the match to end, he had to go back and get a quick pinfall, after which he left once again.

 

Things like this, and then the Hogan/Vader strap match which ended when Hogan pulled RIC FLAIR to touch all four corners to win the match, just didn't make any fucking sense. I came to just be ready for things which couldn't ever be explained.

 

I think the Hogan/Vader strap match was even weirder than this cage match.

[JHawk 0]

Things like this, and then the Hogan/Vader strap match which ended when Hogan pulled RIC FLAIR to touch all four corners to win the match, just didn't make any fucking sense. I came to just be ready for things which couldn't ever be explained.

Didn't Schiavone try to pass it off "This is Uncensored, there are no rules" or something? It was almost like he even knew how silly the whole thing was and tried to play it off anyway.

[BHK 0]

I actually downloaded this match from Sledgehammer, in its dying days.

 

There were really no rules to the match. Nothing anonunced, nothing explained during, and nothing really explained after, either.

 

They played up the 8 heels as "the Alliance to End Hulimania" if I can remember correctly. they also played Z-gangsta up big as coming back to try to kill hogan.

 

The match itself is just BAD. it's such a horrible convulted mess. It's honestly about -****. It's just THAT bad. I c an't believe I actually watched the entire thing, to be honest.

 

Savage pinning Flair(?) at the end was a total afterthought. I think the line of thinking was "Well we've already escaped and fought outside of the cage, so us leaving won't end this thing." So savage ran back in and got the 3 count.

[Jericholic82 0]

The match was originally supposed to have only Hogan in it against 4 or 5 guys(Imagine the compalints if hogan himself had beaten 8 guys) but savage offered his help.

 

I have the THV version of the ppv. Michael Buffer gives really funny ring intros (he called hogan/savage the mega force-even though they had been calling themselves the megapowers again for some time)

 

What I got from the announcers is that the object was for hogan and savage to escape each level (not by pinning but by going through the doors on the floor) and when they moved on the guys in the above cage were eliminated. then when they got to the bottom, theyd have to pin someone I guess. \

 

Zgangsta and ultimate solution did not show up at the beginning and tony kept wondering where Brian Pillman was. and when they escaped they didnt from the ring one, they went down the scallfolding which wast here so they could walk to the top at the start of the match. and at one point hogan throws kevin sullivan into the barrier almost throwing him of the scallfold a long way to the concrete below (thank god he held on or we would have had another tragic wrestling death) they fight on the floor and hogan uses a tool bag as a weapon I should point out that hogan is wearing hulkster workout pants(same he wore the night the nwo was formed) as opposed to the trunks, while savage is dressed in his familiar frilly garb also colored red and yellow.

 

They fought to the ring with flair and sullivan I think, then the rest made their way up even tony is confused by this point thinking they had been elminated

 

zg and us come out and drag them back to the ring in the bottom of the cage. they fight then booty man gave them frying pans. flair grabbed savage and luger put on a black glove (or a weighted glove as tony put it) and went to hit mach. Savage ducked and luger stopped, then decked flair anyway (again playing the whose side is Luger on bit-which I thought was kinda interesting due to his interaction with sting) hogan and savage go to leave, then randy realizes he probably should pin someone and pins flair, then they leave and pose

 

end of show

 

all in all a pretty crappy show outside of a decent eddie/konnan opener and an underated stiff match between Regal and Fit Finley (only the lame dq finish drags it down as the two guys literally beat the snot out of each other---and you have to love Dusty Rhodes talking about "Jives" (before you ask, the blue bloods-at the time a trio with Earl Robert Eaton and Squire David Taylor- had a butler named Jeeves who wore a george washington like wig and was constantly abused by the guys- and Dusty always called him Jives or Chives or somethin and bobby or tony would always question him on that.)

 

The sting/booker T vs LOD match is far too long and very boring for the most part

 

madusa/parker have a short comedy match that isn't too bad. DDP/Booty Man have a 16 min long, boring match

 

and the giant squashes loch ness in 2 mins (what is the deal with that they bring in loch ness as the next big heel for hogan and they promptly turn him face and job him out in short order? then again he sucked badly in the ring)

 

 

 

THEY BE CLUBBERIN TONY HE GOT THE PLUNDER AND THEY BE CLUBBERIN

[JoeDirt 0]

This match sounds great, I need to find a tape of this show immediately.

 

[Styles 0]

This match sounds great, I need to find a tape of this show immediately.

 

Trust me, no you dont. I bought the tape off eBay out of curiousity and it was not only a BAD BAD show but really boring too.

 

Anyway, here's the rant from some guy who DOESN'T POST HERE AND WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT:

 

DOOMSDAY CAGE: Hulk Hogan & Randy Savage v. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Z Gangsta, The Ultimate Solution, Kevin Sullivan, Lex Luger, Meng and the Barbarian. I wish I could be making up that listing, but I'm not. They really did book Hogan & Savage 8-on-2. The heels are The Alliance to End Hulkamania, or TAEH. That of course is the opposite of heat. The idea here, if you can wrap your head around it, is that there's a three-story cage, with Hogan & Savage starting at the top with Flair & Anderson and moving downwards. Now keep in mind there's no actual RULES for this announced, only vague notations about Hogan & Savage having to "fight their way down". Michael Buffer actually has to introduce this mess with a straight face. Well, I guess that's why they pay him the big bucks. Hogan starts with Arn in the top cage and they fight it out, with Flair chopping Savage, and Arn clubbing on Hogan. The lighting is terrible and you can't see anything. They keep brawling and Hogan rams Flair into a pole and chokes him down. Flair & Anderson stop and work over Savage, however. Anderson goes after Hogan and gets a figure-four, so Flair does the same to Savage. Hogan and Savage use powder to escape, however, and move down to the next cage. Uh huh. So now it's 4-on-2, as it's Sullivan, Luger, Meng and Barbarian to contend wth. Hogan fights with Luger & Sullivan, while Savage takes on the Faces of Fear. The heels control, but Hogan fights off Sullivan and saves Savage, and then locks the Faces of Fear in their own cage, leaving it 2-on-2. Oh, such strategy. Flair and Anderson head down into the lower cage to try and help, and Hogan and Sullivan fight out to the scaffolding while Luger continues the thrilling brawl with Savage in the cage. However, soon all four end up on the floor, and into the ring. Hogan hits Sullivan with the big boot and stomps away. They switch off, with Hogan hitting Luger with a bucket and Sullivan ramming Savage into the cage. Tony, in an actual quote, says "This has been spectacular." Well, people describe car crashes the same way. Hogan brings Luger to the ring and gets a corner clothesline, then hammers away while Savage & Sullivan fight on the floor. Wasn't the point supposed to be that they were fighting in the CAGE? Hence the name, DOOMSDAY CAGE? Luger hits Savage with the STAINLESS STEEL FOREARM OF DEATH, but brawls out with Hogan again. You have to wonder what exactly the Horsemen and Faces of Fear are DOING while trapped in that other ring. Luger clubs Savage down with a chair and then goes after Hogan, but he makes the comeback and the heels get whipped together. And now the other heels, Jeep "Painful Constipation" Swenson and Z Gangsta (Zeus) head out and drag our heroes back to the DOOMSDAY CAGE, and into the ring on the bottom of that cage. Was there something wrong with the ring they were in before? Somehow, the match gets WORSE, as Permanent Vacation overpowers Hogan and Gangsta chokes Savage down. He pops up with a double axehandle, however, while Hogan goes to the eyes of Traffic Citation and then turns his attention to Gangsta. He gets choked down, which to Tony is the most thrilling thing to happen all match, and Notable Quotation press-slams Savage. Hogan comes back on Gangsta, but now the Horsemen rejoin the match (which of course makes no sense, but god forbid either of THESE goofs do the job when Flair is available) and things look bleak for the Megapowers. The heels pound away, as Catalytic Conversion uses the CLUBBING FOREARMS, but now Booty Man gives them powder (oh man, this stuff just writes itself) and frying pans. That's how you cook the crack old-school, I guess. Now Luger runs in as well and turns the tide, using a loaded glove, but it hits Flair by mistake and Savage pins him at 25:09. This would prove to be the last hurrah for Hulkamania, as fan reaction to this mess was so overwhelmingly negative that his heel turn was necessary to keep his career alive. Without a doubt the WORST PPV main event ever, lacking not only internal logic and interesting action, but the entertainment value of Heroes of Wrestling. This one gets the full negative monty. -*****

 

The Bottom Line:

 

You may stumble across this show and accidentally watch it, then, like a victim of prison rape, blame yourself for the pain, humiliation, and rectal bleeding, but DON'T. This was WCW'S fault, not yours! There are support groups for survivors of this PPV out there to help you, and I would advise you to make use of them. Other people have been through the same thing. We can help you.

 

Strongest recommendation to avoid humanly possible.

[Cheex Incarnate 0]

Sorry, i'm not too familiar with the match, but is it just my foggy memory that leads me to believe Z-Gangsta is One Man Gang? And who again was the Ultimate Solution? Any help?

 

-Cheex

[Guest MikeSC]

Sorry, i'm not too familiar with the match, but is it just my foggy memory that leads me to believe Z-Gangsta is One Man Gang? And who again was the Ultimate Solution? Any help?

 

-Cheex

Z-Gangsta was the former Zeus. Ultimate Solution was Jeep Swenson, I believe.

-=Mike

[Guest Staravenger]

Ultimate Solution was Jeep Swenson, I believe.

-=Mike

I also think he was Bane in the Batman & Robin movie. Didn't he die a few years ago?

[Guest MikeSC]

Ultimate Solution was Jeep Swenson, I believe.

      -=Mike

I also think he was Bane in the Batman & Robin movie. Didn't he die a few years ago?

Far as I know. Hate to be mean, but I could not conceivably care less about Jeep.

-=Mike

...Hell, that was during a REAL shitty WCW period...

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I never got cage matches in WCW with Hogan in them. At Uncensored 98, Hogan and Macho Man just WALK OUT THE DOOR and continue fighting outside, then go back to the ring before it all ends in a no contest. Hogan did the same thing with Sting at a house show I went to. If they were going to book them like that, why bother?

[Styles 0]

I never got cage matches in WCW with Hogan in them. At Uncensored 98, Hogan and Macho Man just WALK OUT THE DOOR and continue fighting outside, then go back to the ring before it all ends in a no contest. Hogan did the same thing with Sting at a house show I went to. If they were going to book them like that, why bother?

Hell, in Uncensored 99 Flair beat Hogan by pinfall, in a first blood cage match with Flair bleeding no less.

And in Uncensored 95, Hogan beat Vader in a strap match...by pinning Ric Flair.

Shitty matches with nonsensical finishes were a WCW Unsencored tradition!

[Guest Staravenger]

No, he dragged Flair to all four corners...which is even worse...if it's at all possible.

 

1995 was horrible period. JIM DUGGAN in a karate match? Dustin Rhodes and Repo Smash Blacktop Darsow fighting in the back of a truck trying to honk a horn, and let's not forget the ULTIMATE surprise....the RENEGADE!