The One and Only JLU Season 1 Thread

[Guest JMA]

I'm still wondering if the Red Tornado is dead for good. I mean, Amazo destroyed his entire body.

[Guest CronoT]

I'm still wondering if the Red Tornado is dead for good. I mean, Amazo destroyed his entire body.

I believe he is an android, correct? So, if that's true, then he's probably just like The Vision; I believe that's what his name is. I'm talking about that android guy who hangs around with Iron Man and Captain America, and he was part of the Avengers for a while.

 

So, if he's an android, he can be rebuilt.

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I had no idea John C. McGinley was going to voice The Atom until the show aired. F'ing RAWK.

[Guest JMA]

I'm still wondering if the Red Tornado is dead for good. I mean, Amazo destroyed his entire body.

I believe he is an android, correct? So, if that's true, then he's probably just like The Vision; I believe that's what his name is. I'm talking about that android guy who hangs around with Iron Man and Captain America, and he was part of the Avengers for a while.

 

So, if he's an android, he can be rebuilt.

Yes, the Red Tornado is an android. But like I said, his ENTIRE body was destroyed. He was sliced in half with heat vision, and then the split halves proceeded to explode. The character has died before in the comics, this fact makes me wonder if he’s being killed off. I'm pretty sure he'll be brought back in some way, though.

 

In case anyone is curious, here is some information on the Red Tornado.

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By now we're going to have to start wondering if they're ever going to have Plastic Man on screen. Is there some kind of legal dispute over the character or something? I also remember that rather campy Plastic Man cartoon on TV when I was a kid, but I never really saw it on TV after about age 8 or 9.

Elongated Man > Plastic Man. Although that's if Sue Dibney's around. Post-Identity Crisis, I don't know if that's still true.

 

I'm still wondering if the Red Tornado is dead for good. I mean, Amazo destroyed his entire body.

Well, if he could shunt Oa to an alternate dimension, I'm sure he could rebuild Tornado. If not, then they could add to that S.T.A.R. Labs subplot they had with Galatea by having them rebuild him.

 

Liked the variation on Kyle's "Ion" outfit. And I think this helps tie up a loose thread in that Superman episode that had Kyle as the GL of Earth.

 

Now, can we get the Legion of Super-Heroes on somehow?

[Guest CronoT]

I'm still wondering if the Red Tornado is dead for good. I mean, Amazo destroyed his entire body.

I believe he is an android, correct? So, if that's true, then he's probably just like The Vision; I believe that's what his name is. I'm talking about that android guy who hangs around with Iron Man and Captain America, and he was part of the Avengers for a while.

 

So, if he's an android, he can be rebuilt.

Yes, the Red Tornado is an android. But like I said, his ENTIRE body was destroyed. He was sliced in half with heat vision, and then the split halves proceeded to explode. The character has died before in the comics, this fact makes me wonder if he’s being killed off. I'm pretty sure he'll be brought back in some way, though.

 

In case anyone is curious, here is some information on the Red Tornado.

There's a fairly good chance that his original blueprints are somewhere in the Justice League's archives. They'll probably just rebuild him.

 

What I've noticed in most American made cartoons nowadays, there is very little actual continuity. He'll be back, and we'll be lucky if they even mention his destruction.

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What I've noticed in most American made cartoons nowadays, there is very little actual continuity. He'll be back, and we'll be lucky if they even mention his destruction.

Actually the Marvel comic book-based properties (since the 90s anyways) try to keep the continuity. The stories might be one or two part standalones, but they'll have running subplots. Superman and Batman didn't really stick to a strict continuity in that there are running subplots everywhere, but they did seem to be created with an eye towards not contradicting what came before. Justice League seems to be trying to add more continuity, I think.

 

And Teen Titans... well the theme song rules, but I haven't seen much continuity apart from maybe the Deathstroke stuff...

[Guest PlatinumBoy]

I loved the continuity in the old Spiderman cartoon. When a kids cartoon has like 30 episode long plots (The Neogenic Nightmare for example) you know its good stuff. If that ever comes out on DVD season by season, it's a surefire pick up.

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Reminder that a new JLU episode will air tonight at 8:30 pm ET/PT on the Cartoon Network

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~!

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looks like we have our villains for the season

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One of the better eps of the show in a while.

 

OMG!~ The JL beat the hell out of the long-lost members of the Super Friends!

[Guest JMA]

It's good to know that I don't have to bump this thread.

 

Anyway, I LOVED tonight's episodes. We had caricatures of the Affirmative Action Friends, Bizarro, Giganta, and Amanda "The Wall" Waller. Did anyone else notice Waller's brief mention of the Suicide Squad? I thought the look on Batman's face when Waller called him "rich boy" was priceless.

 

I really dug the Ultimen, their pop culture references and corny speeches were pretty funny. When Superman says you're corny, it's time to hang up the cape for good. Maxwell Lord saying that the Justice League weren't "relatable" and "looked down" on normal humans was certainly interesting. Some people have criticized the DC super-heroes for not being human enough, so I have to wonder if that's the reason those lines were thrown in there.

 

I thought the ending aboard the Watchtower was a nice little scene. You really got the feeling that these heroes were practically gods and this place was their Olympus.

 

All in all, this was an A+ episode which furthers the plot.

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Maxwell Lord saying that the Justice League weren't "relatable" and "looked down" on normal humans was certainly interesting. Some people have criticized the DC super-heroes for not being human enough, so I have to wonder if that's the reason those lines were thrown in there.

 

He was absolutely right, of course. Too bad the writers didn't think to have Green Arrow in this episode, because I'm sure he'd have had something very interesting to add along with Lords' sentiments.

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"King of the seas, remember?"

 

awesome

[Kardo 0]

Hasn't anyone hit the torrents yet and got the next few episodes.

 

Wake The Dead is awesome. So many character moments and suprises.

[Guest JMA]

Maxwell Lord saying that the Justice League weren't "relatable" and "looked down" on normal humans was certainly interesting. Some people have criticized the DC super-heroes for not being human enough, so I have to wonder if that's the reason those lines were thrown in there.

 

He was absolutely right, of course. Too bad the writers didn't think to have Green Arrow in this episode, because I'm sure he'd have had something very interesting to add along with Lords' sentiments.

I have to disagree. The DCU characters have almost always been portrayed as a pantheon of gods (even the ones without powers like Batman); it's one of the things that make them unique.

 

As for Green Arrow, while he may not like the way the League presents itself, I don't think he'd agree with Lord's sentiments. In fact, since Batman had such a negative view of him, I'd be willing to say Arrow would have a similar one (he was rich once as well).

[Guest JMA]

"King of the seas, remember?"

 

awesome

That was great. Aquaman rarely gets good lines like that.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Yeah, as mentioned, these episodes all already aired here in Canada so they're available for download via KAzaa or what have you if you just can't wait for TV. We (Canadians) were supposed to get the whole season without interuption, but the 2 part former season finale wasn't finished and subsequently got bumped to up to a Season 2 premier, so we're just waiting for Season 2 episodes they moved down.

 

Good line from next week's episode:

 

As Batman is falling through the sky: "I could use some air support here.. because I can't fly. At all".

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You guys remind me of why I need to quit visiting Aint It Cool. Those guys were pissing all over the last few shows. Its like there's something subliminal in the gifs over there that cause people to be jackasses.

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I really dug the Ultimen, their pop culture references and corny speeches were pretty funny. When Superman says you're corny, it's time to hang up the cape for good. Maxwell Lord saying that the Justice League weren't "relatable" and "looked down" on normal humans was certainly interesting. Some people have criticized the DC super-heroes for not being human enough, so I have to wonder if that's the reason those lines were thrown in there.

Well, to be fair, they ARE backed by Maxwell Lord. Remember, in the DCU proper, he backs a team called "the Super-Buddies".

 

looks like we have our villains for the season

Wasn't that pretty much established during the Supergirl/Power Girl episode?

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I really dug the Ultimen, their pop culture references and corny speeches were pretty funny. When Superman says you're corny, it's time to hang up the cape for good. Maxwell Lord saying that the Justice League weren't "relatable" and "looked down" on normal humans was certainly interesting. Some people have criticized the DC super-heroes for not being human enough, so I have to wonder if that's the reason those lines were thrown in there.

Well, to be fair, they ARE backed by Maxwell Lord. Remember, in the DCU proper, he backs a team called "the Super-Buddies".

 

looks like we have our villains for the season

Wasn't that pretty much established during the Supergirl/Power Girl episode?

they had it open-ended, but that's happened before with shows and they bring it up once or twice. This episode, especially the "rich boy" line, built Cadmus up as a bit more than just recurring villains (like, for example, Ethan Rayne in Buffy if you watch it)

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Great Interview with show producer Dwayne McDuffie on the season finale(January 22 and January 29) and what is in store for next season.

 

Justice For All

 

Ever since the debut of Batman: The Animated Series in 1992, fans around the world have been able to follow the animated version of the DC universe through five different television series. The latest series, Justice League is now in it’s third season, having been rechristened as Justice League Unlimited. With the third season finale scheduled to air later this month and the fourth season to start later in the year, there has been some speculation that the series might be winding to a close. Recently, writer/producer Dwayne McDuffie took the time to answer some questions about the future of JLU:

 

Blair Marnell: How has your role on Justice League changed in the latest season?

 

Dwayne McDuffie: I came on the show as a freelancer in the first season. In the second season I was a story editor and this year, I’m a producer/story editor. I help Bruce Timm, James Tucker and Matt Wayne to develop stories and choose the talent to write them. I also do rewrites, if necessary.

 

BM: I notice you’ve had a conspiracy arc in the background for most of this season. Will this story continue through the season finale and into the next season?

 

DM: It will continue into next season. And it will come to a conclusion at the end of next season.

 

BM: So it’ll be playing in the background throughout season four?

 

DM: Absolutely. And it will come more and more into the forefront as we continue. Although, several things you’ve seen already had a lot to do with the conspiracy that you probably don’t realize yet.

 

BM: Why hasn’t the Flash had a prominent role this season? Was Michael Rosenbaum not available?

 

DM: Michael Rosenbaum is available and still playing the Flash. Look for Flash to figure prominently in an episode called "The Ties That Bind," coming up very soon. Actually, Michael's also playing several other characters in the upcoming season. So he’s still doing stuff with us, which is great, because he's unbelievably talented.

 

BM: What’s coming up in the two part season finale, “The Once and Future Thing”?

 

DM: I’m really excited about this. “The Once and Future Thing” is a really, really fun story that’s going to surprise a lot of people. A couple of major revelations for our characters and several guest shots that we couldn’t have done any other way. It really is an apocalyptic season finale. (And that’s not a Jack Kirby pun.) I can tell you that the bad guy is Chronos and the League will be going to the old west and meeting a lot of the DC Comics western heroes, including Jonah Hex and (my favorite) Bat Lash, among others. They will also be going into the future of the DC animated universe. Batman from Batman Beyond will appear, as will Static (from the Static Shock animated series, which I co-created). Static's a pretty old guy at the time the episode occurs. And speaking of old guys, we'll also see... oops, almost gave too much away.

 

It might be my favorite show of season three. If you like Batman Beyond, if you like Static, if you like the original Justice League show or DC western heroes, then you don’t want to miss this.

 

BM: What can fans expect from the next season of JLU?

 

DM: We’ve got Captain Marvel coming. I’m looking forward to that show. More Amanda Waller and she’s bringing some of her “friends.” Long time DCU readers probably know what that means.

 

BM: I’d say it means the Suicide Squad.

 

DM: You’re welcome to guess. [laughs] And there’s definitely more Luthor. Mr. Miracle Black Canary and Vixen will be on multiple times. Green Arrow and The Question will be back. He (The Question) worked out so well that he’ll be playing a big part.

 

BM: Everyone loves The Question. He’s the Fox Mulder of the superhero set.

 

DM: I think Fox is a little more sane than our version of The Question. [laughs]

 

BM: What about Plastic Man? He’s been mentioned on the show.

 

DM: No Plastic Man. I don’t know what the issue is, I just heard we’re not doing

him.

 

BM: Is Galatea coming back? And was she meant to be the Powergirl of the animated DCU?

 

DM: Galatea worked out really well. We’d love to get her back in if we can. She’s kind of a nod to Powergirl. Powergirl has a whole bunch of different origins, which is way too complicated for our universe. There is no Powergirl in our universe.

 

BM: Will the Batman/Wonder Woman romance subplot continue into the next season?

 

DM: We will touch on that a few more times. I think people are interested in seeing where it goes.

 

BM: Is there any chance the Legion of Superheroes will show up?

 

DM: We want to do the Legion someday. We’ve had discussions about that. Fingers crossed.

 

BM: What comic creators do you have lined up for the next season of JLU?

 

DM: We’ve got Jim Steranko doing the Mr. Miracle episode. We’ve got Gail Simone and her episode is about Huntress and Black Canary. Mark Dematteis is back for several episodes. He’s just done a great job on the show. We've got an episode from Darwyn Cooke. Our intention is, should we continue, that there will be many more familiar names from the comics contributing to the show.

 

BM: Any plans for Batgirl or the Batman villains to appear?

 

DM: No. They are not available to us. They belong to the new The Batman show. We’d love to use them again but then again, we’ve already told a lot of stories with them and we’ve got a big cast of new characters. But Batman is still in JLU and will appear frequently.

 

BM: Are there any plans for an animated Crisis?

 

DM: No. We don’t have sixty years of multiple continuities. There’s really no reason to do a Crisis to clean up a problem we don’t have. We’d have to introduce a bunch of parallel universes. We’ve already got two or three but they don’t have any weight behind them. They all appeared only once. I will say that season four has a HUGE finish. It may be the biggest thing we’ve ever tried.

 

BM: Has JLU been renewed beyond next season?

 

DM: The network will make any official announcement about renewals. But ratings are great, so there’s good reason for optimism.

 

BM: How is your creator owned graphic novel, The Road to Hell coming along?

 

DM: I am waiting for the final pages from Rick Parker, even as we speak. I can’t wait. This is a project that is fifteen years old. It's a romantic comedy set in Hell. We did two chapters of it a British magazine called Toxic back in 1988 and 1989 and the magazine promptly folded. (I don’t want to make a cause and effect argument here.) But it’s taken us this long to find a way to do it and I got tired of waiting so I’m just going to publish it myself.

 

BM: Do you have any plans for the Milestone characters?

 

DM: I always have plans. But DC is not really interested in publishing them at this time and they’ve got the license, which makes it tough. I keep talking to them and I hope I can talk them into it someday. Maybe if enough people read this and start writing letters to DC that they’d like to see the Milestone characters again, they'll get off their duff, as it were. We’d all love to do it again. And there are other media plans for them, but it’s too early to talk about.

 

BM: Do you have any other projects in the works?

 

DM: Justice League is pretty much taking up the bulk of my time. There are a couple of other TV things. I did scripts for an animated show in England called Friends and Heroes that I understand will come out here eventually. But probably not for a while. Given the opportunity, I'd love to do more comics but I haven't been able to land an assignment in several years. If Road to Hell does okay, I'll probably just publish something else of my own. Oh, before I go, I forgot to brag about Starcrossed (the Justice League three parter I co-scripted with John Ridley and Rich Fogel from a story by Rich Fogel) being nominated for the prestigious Writers Guild Award. This is an amazing achievement for an action show, but then, Justice League is an amazing show.

 

This Has An “Unlimited Possibilities” Factor of Ten Out of Ten

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Here are the descriptions and air dates for the first three episodes of season 2

 

Saturday, Feb. 5: "The Cat and The Canary" ­ Black Canary convinces Green Arrow to help save her mentor, the Wildcat, from his involvement in an underground, super-powered fight club.

 

Saturday, Feb. 12: "The Ties that Bind" ­ The world's greatest escape artist needs help from the Flash in order to break a deadly enemy out of an inescapable prison on an alien planet.

 

Saturday, Feb. 19: "The Doomsday Sanction" ­ While Superman battles Doomsday in the heart of a Volcano, Batman discovers an elaborate conspiracy to destroy the Justice League.

 

All will be shown at 8:30pm ET/PT

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Was that weird looking guy from this last episode the guy from that one Ra's Al Ghul flashback episode from Batman?

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Yeah, it's the same guy, although I remember him being older in that appearance.

 

I love these time travel crossover episodes. As much as I dislike Static, I'm hyped for part two.

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yeah, is Static the guy from that stupid show that had Shaq on it?