Vanhalen Posted August 31, 2004 Report Posted August 31, 2004 Maybe I'm over reacting, but it just leaves a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth when the Republicans are attempting to portray Bush as a man equal to Churchill, what do others think?
kkktookmybabyaway Posted August 31, 2004 Report Posted August 31, 2004 Well, the Dems compare him to Hitler. Fair and balanced baby -- fair and balanced...
BUTT Posted August 31, 2004 Report Posted August 31, 2004 The Democrats who compared Bush to Hitler were a bunch of douchebags on a website. The Republican who compared Bush to Churchill was Rudy Giuliani, one of the most visible members of the party. It's not quite the same.
Stephen Joseph Posted August 31, 2004 Report Posted August 31, 2004 Its not like Rudy's not got his eye on a certain house painted white in 2008.
Guest INXS Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I find it very sickening and offensive. How GW Bush - the man who has lead countless people to their death by waging an unjustified war - can be compared to Churchill, an icon and quite frankly great leader is beyond me. Comparing Churchill facing Hitler and Bush facing..um..what was the name of that guy that we haven't been bothere dto try and find? Ah yeah, Bin Laden...it's not even a comparison.
Guest Razor Roman Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Well I can see the resemblance... the difference is Bush actually got his way at first, fighting the war before it became too big for us to handle. Churchill was ridiculed for saying the Nazis needed to be dealt with - and then when it turned out he was RIGHT everyone came to love him.
Special K Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Lady Astor: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee." Winston Churchill: "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it." Churchill was the shit.
Slayer Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Woman: "You're drunk" Churchill: "Madam, I may be drunk, but you are ugly, and tomorrow I won't be drunk anymore." Possibly apocryphal, but still a funny thought
Jobber of the Week Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Its not like Rudy's not got his eye on a certain house painted white in 2008. Congress? That's all he'll ever get. If you think you've heard a lot about his affairs now, he'll be absolutely eaten alive by them if he runs for President. Of course, almost every discussion about Giulianni running for Prez involves Hillary being the opponent, and I think she's just about the worst possible choice ever, so in that instance, heck, maybe Ralph Nader will finally get some states.
Guest INXS Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Giulanni made over $8 million in appearances the year after 9/11...yup..he's immoral enough to be the president of the USA...
bob_barron Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I don't get that one at all. Rudy was no longer mayor so he became a public speaker and got paid a lot for his speeches and appearances. How is he immoral?
kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 BECAUSE HE WAS USING THE BLOOD OF THE THOUSANDS THAT DIED ON 9/11 TO LACE HIS POCKETS THANKS TO MULTI-NATIONAL-GLOBAL-CORPORATIONS!!! That's my guess anyway...
Guest MikeSC Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Giulanni made over $8 million in appearances the year after 9/11...yup..he's immoral enough to be the president of the USA... Damn him for earning money post-9/11. DAMMIT, YOU SHOULD BE POOR AFTER 9/11! NOBODY SHOULD MAKE MONEY AFTER 9/11!! YOU BASTARD! When the hammer comes down on your boys, the world will be brightened up. I find it very sickening and offensive. How GW Bush - the man who has lead countless people to their death by waging an unjustified war - can be compared to Churchill, an icon and quite frankly great leader is beyond me. Comparing Churchill facing Hitler and Bush facing..um..what was the name of that guy that we haven't been bothere dto try and find? Ah yeah, Bin Laden...it's not even a comparison. Churchill was a "great leader"? Man, makes the British look like REAL FUCKING MORONS for turfing him before WW II ended. If you think you've heard a lot about his affairs now, he'll be absolutely eaten alive by them if he runs for President. BWA HA HA HA! Hold on to THAT pipe dream. As has been learned, affairs don't mean squat to the populace. And, lord, if he runs against Hillary --- the Dems would be fucking foolish to even bring it up. Of course, almost every discussion about Giulianni running for Prez involves Hillary being the opponent, and I think she's just about the worst possible choice ever, so in that instance, heck, maybe Ralph Nader will finally get some states Giuliana brings NY into play --- and losing NY kills any Democratic hopes. -=Mike
Special K Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Yeah, because, you know, Gulliani wasn't popular before 9/11.
bob_barron Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Actually he was popular pre 9.11. It's just a lot of people didn't like his tough as nails approach with things. After 9.11 he just became super super popular
Special K Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I was being sarcastic. OF COURSE he was fucking popular pre-9/11. I guess the Mr. Show maxim that sarcasm is difficult to communicate in type is proven.
Guest MikeSC Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I was being sarcastic. OF COURSE he was fucking popular pre-9/11. I guess the Mr. Show maxim that sarcasm is difficult to communicate in type is proven. No, it totally isn't. -=Mike ...OK, that was shitty sarcasm by me...
Special K Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I'm loathe to type anything like /sarcasm off, though. It's just stupid. I'm hoping INXS is being sarcastic in his last post, but I don't think he is. Shit, Clinton probably made twice as much that year making speaking appearances. Doesn't mean anything.
Guest MikeSC Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I'm loathe to type anything like /sarcasm off, though. It's just stupid. I'm hoping INXS is being sarcastic in his last post, but I don't think he is. Shit, Clinton probably made twice as much that year making speaking appearances. Doesn't mean anything. INXS is too oblivious to do that whole sarcasm thing. -=Mike
Stephen Joseph Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Exactly. Affairs mean nothing now. And well, we all wont be here prolly in 2008, but I'm willing to say Rudy's at least got the idea in his head. If he can pull NY for the repubs, he wins the election. Remember, NY is 31 E.V.'s that always go Democrat. If a Repub pulls them, thats a 62 EV diff. Considering the close elections...
Rob E Dangerously Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 "A number of social problems arose. I had been told that neither smoking nor alcoholic beverages were allowed in the Royal Presence. As I was the host at luncheon I raised the matter at once, and said to the interpreter that if it was the religion of His Majesty to deprive himself of smoking and alcohol I must point out that my rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred right smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after, and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them." - Churchill on his meeting with Ibn Saud, King of Saudi Arabia I don't think Bush is close to Churchill.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I'm hoping INXS is being sarcastic in his last post, but I don't think he is. Nope. That's the great thing about him...
Dr. Tom Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Woman: "You're drunk" Churchill: "Madam, I may be drunk, but you are ugly, and tomorrow I won't be drunk anymore." The thing is, that was actually a light-hearted comment between two friends. The woman's name escapes me at the moment, but she and Churchill were close. The comment has been misinterpreted as mean in the years since. This is from memory, but I'm pretty sure the exhange was this: Woman: "You're drunk, Winston, you're very drunk." Churchill: "You're fat, [woman's name], you're very fat. And the difference between us is that I will be sober in the morning." His "Madam, if I were your husband, I would drink it" comment was made while he was an MP, IIRC.
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