Apprentice 2

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Jennifer is the best at playing the game.

 

I loved the exchange between Donald and Andy. Donald gave him a softball and he hit that out of the park

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I loved the exchange between Donald and Andy. Donald gave him a softball and he hit that out of the park

Yes he did, and it was beautiful, though Trump thinks Andy needs to step up (again). I think deep down, Trump is pulling for Andy not to fuck up.

 

So do we get another reshuffling next week? I didn't watch the first season so I'm not sure how this goes.

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Seeing as they say that one person goes "right to the final four", it's probably back to normal for the firings (winning PM for the next task gets an exemption for the final 5). Jenn will probably get moved over to Mosaic, although that's probably not smart if your aim is to get her fired (they haven't seen how smooth she's been lately in the boardroom).

 

Judging from Trump's comments Andy will probably be PM. At this point we're nearing the endgame and Trump is probably thinking that Andy needs to show why a guy fresh out of university should be running a (presumably non-bankrupt) Trump company. Personally, I hope Andy wins next week, and Ivana joins Blinky on the sidelines...

[The Tino Standard 0]

So do we get another reshuffling next week? I didn't watch the first season so I'm not sure how this goes.

Yeah, they're going to have to bring somebody over next week. Last season, there were no real set points where they'd re-shuffle (just like this year). It's pretty much whenever the teams aren't balanced, somebody gets moved.

 

I'm just a little confused over what they're going to do since 2 people got fired in the same show. If you have X amount of shows to do and that number is based on having 1 person fired per week, now what do you do? Not fire someone one week?

 

Also, for what it's worth, I don't think a single P.M. has gotten it right this year as far as who they should bring back to the boardroom for the firing. Just about every single time, Trump has said "Why wouldn't you bring 3 other people back instead of 2?" or "Why didn't you bring X back?"

 

Wes fell victim to this last night. Andy has one of the best boardrooms ever by not saying a damn word except for OWNING the one question he gets asked, so in Trump's mind, he's got to look pretty strong. Why would Wes bring him in? Not to say that it would've saved Wes from being fired, but at that point, you need to scratch for every edge you can get.

[Mik 0]

I wish I didn't read those spoilers of the final two all those weeks ago - toward the beginning. They based the spoilers on the fact that in Vegas (or maybe AC) everyone was betting on two contestants, so much so that they stopped betting on the show. Someone must have leaked.

 

Needless to say these two people are still left. I'm not going to spoil anything, but I hope it was wrong.

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I know what you're talking about, and I hope it's wrong as well. But looking at who's left, I have a hard time NOT putting those two through to the final four, since there are two people I'd fire ahead of them. And given that the task in the final four is to interview with some of Trump's execs, I could see those two doing well there as well.

 

So yeah, it could conceivably happen, but I hope it doesn't.

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

I loved Wes's closing line of "They coulda at least got me my own cab"

 

Did anyone notice Maria going in to overdrive blink mode when she was trying to scheme with Andy and Stacy?

 

 

Ah I'm just happy we get another week of Ivana

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Wes fell victim to this last night.  Andy has one of the best boardrooms ever by not saying a damn word except for OWNING the one question he gets asked, so in Trump's mind, he's got to look pretty strong.  Why would Wes bring him in?  Not to say that it would've saved Wes from being fired, but at that point, you need to scratch for every edge you can get.

I think he was betting on Andy not pointing the finger at him, which ended up happening. If you can have somebody on your side that you know isn't going to get fired, then bring them. It seemed like they had a little deal going on anyway. In theory bringing him in was a good idea; not so much in practice.

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There are no real friends this season, so if you're PM and you bring someone in, you'd better count on them gunning for you.

[The Mandarin 0]

Haalllo.

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I don't understand how Jen and Sandy were 'pounding on' Andy when all they were doing was yelling at each other and bringing him up once in a while.

[Guest Jimmy Saint]

I don't really understand how they could call Andy being outdebated by the two women, shouted down I would call it. Trump likes people who fight tooth and nail in the boardroom to survive though. Andy sitting there with his mouth shut was a dumb move. So were his attempts to bribe the designers with $100 which was embarrassing to watch. Andy had some great ideas [the police video] but also quite a few completly retarded ones too [Crustacean Nation, the insurance million dollar scam, the power of geography to sell Pepsi] which cost or almost cost his team during tasks. He did great for someone his age but was never ready to win this. Carolynn seems to be clocking on to Jenn's game too [ie do nothing in the task and come out smelling of roses in the boardroom] I figure she is in trouble next time in there.

 

I still think Kelley is a lock to win this.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Andy fucked up hard and his last stand in the first boardroom (let's face it, he did nothing in the second) was pathetic.

 

Trump: This bottle looks pathetic.

Andy: Okay, I'll give you that, but we were under tight pressure and...

George: You barely did anything. You were a slave driver to the design people and had them do the work for you.

Andy: You got me there, but I was a good leader...

Carolyn: You started giving cash handouts.

*longish pause*

Andy: Well, yeah.

Trump: .....

 

The last nail in the coffin was when Trump told him he was getting served by the women, and rather than complain about the shouting, he just said "I know." I don't know if he didn't see any old episodes or has been falling asleep in Boardrooms, but other people haven't been afraid to disagree with Trump & Co. and still kept their skin as long as they didn't say something stupid.

 

Andy just sat there and nodded his head while Trump treated him like a fool. How could he NOT be fired?

[The Electrifyer 0]

Sandy and Jenn are going to be real screwed next week if its them vs. Kevin, Kelly and Ivana.

[starvenger 0]

I think having Ivana is a handicap as it is.

 

Andy had a good run, but the lack of business experience showed itself here. All things considered, it's nothing to be ashamed about, and we'll see how he handles himself during the final task.

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

Andy had some great ideas [the police video] but also quite a few completly retarded ones too [Crustacean Nation, the insurance million dollar scam, the power of geography to sell Pepsi] which cost or almost cost his team during tasks.

Don't forget that he also got a cat rescue shelter to sponsor dog washing and then lost the cell phone shortly after.

 

Andy was definately in hindsight the worst candidate on the show so far this season despite many ppl taking a liking to him.

 

As for Ivana,after the preview for next week I think I may have lost all faith in her.Was she just showing that guy her thong or full on bush and ass?

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Andy was definately in hindsight the worst candidate on the show so far this season despite many ppl taking a liking to him.

If you mean least qualified, then I agree with you. Candidates like little Stacy and Elizabeth showed me absolutely nothing. Andy, at least, did.

 

As for Ivana,after the preview for next week I think I may have lost all faith in her.Was she just showing that guy her thong or full on bush and ass?

I'm gonna guess thong, since I'm guessing she goes Brazilian.

 

(edit)btw, Maxim has a "Girls of the Apprentice" layout. Maria still looks scary, Stacy J, fired Jenn and Sandy look ok, but Pamela looks pretty good.

Edited November 29, 2004 by starvenger

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

Andy was definately in hindsight the worst candidate on the show so far this season despite many ppl taking a liking to him.

If you mean least qualified, then I agree with you. Candidates like little Stacy and Elizabeth showed me absolutely nothing. Andy, at least, did.

 

As for Ivana,after the preview for next week I think I may have lost all faith in her.Was she just showing that guy her thong or full on bush and ass?

I'm gonna guess thong, since I'm guessing she goes Brazilian.

 

(edit)btw, Maxim has a "Girls of the Apprentice" layout. Maria still looks scary, Stacy J, fired Jenn and Sandy look ok, but Pamela looks pretty good.

You have a point and i'd throw Blinky Maria in there with little Stacy and crybaby Elizabeth.

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and crybaby Elizabeth.

I definately would have hit that.

[SuperJerk 0]

Was Elizabeth the one who turned out to be an actress?

 

I missed the episode where she was fired.

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You know what the best part of the show is? The music. The stripper-type music for Mosaic? Awesome.

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Hmph. I didn't figure Ivana for boyshorts...

[The Mandarin 0]

Ivana, you're fired.

[bob_barron 0]

Finally.

 

It's a shame the taxi cab didn't run her over

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Good luck getting a job when you prostituted yourself on national TV to sell a candy bar, Ivana.

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That one was too easy. Ivana had nothing to stand on once Trump starting asking their PM win-loss records. All three of them seemed to know it was coming, too, as they all just were sitting and waiting.

 

Barring any major screw-up, Kelley pretty much has this in the bag. The two girls are useless and while Kevin has been successful as PM, he has more minor screw ups than Kelley.

[SuperJerk 0]

Ivana's been on borrowed time since the Bradford incident, and I've pretty passionately hated her ever since the Stacie 8-ball controversy.

 

 

Kelly's probably going to win by default, since Jen's all talk, Kevin makes too many mistakes, and Sandy lacks the educational creditials.

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Sandy's been on borrowed time for a while, since Trump has a hard-on for college-edjumacated people. Which I thought was the only real reason he fired Troy over Kwame.

 

Kevin's a law student. Presumably he's had some businesses "on the side" since his inexperience was never brought up like Andy's was. I want to put him in the final two, except for...

 

...Seven of Nine. Kevin is a law student. The Jen-bot is a lawyer, who always knows the right things to say, and has always been able to get in the good graces of the PM and slide by. The interviews are supposed to be harsh, but I can see her get through those with flying colours.

 

Then there's Kelly. All along, he's been a "safe" prospect, the take-charge guy who isn't afraid to go outside the box (to use an overused cliche) and do what he thinks is correct. So long as he doesn't screw up the final task, I think he's got it.

 

Anyways, the final task. Teams of 4 strive to survive. Or something like that. If you're the PM, who do you pick? I know which two you don't - Blinky and Wes. I think that, if Kevin gets fired, I'd hire him, Ivana (since they seem to work well together) and Andy. If Seven of Nine gets fired, hire her, Andy and... I dunno. The talent pool drops after that, and you DON'T want Jen on the same team as Ivana or Sandy. Either way, Andy is a part of my team.

[Guest Jimmy Saint]

Ivana had to go. I admit all she seemed to do was bitch for most of the series but she did started to grow on me when I saw she was actually a half decent player of the game and was contributing to tasks. Whilst the stripping off move was a fuck up in hindsight she knew they were getting pounded on the selling front because the other two girls were using slut power to shift the chocalate bars and she tryed and failed to out slut two of them.

 

 

Kelley will win this. I reallly don't want this to sound as bad as i think it does but Kevin is kind off Kwame but not as good.

 

The two blondes whilst I am sure Trump would marry them both there is noway in hell he would have two of them manage one of his companies. There is the argument that the 'job' you win is more as a spokesperson and less a job but neither of them realistly deserve it over the two guys.

 

Jenn I think will be destroyed in the interviews. Everyone knows she is full of hot air and one of the weakest contributers from the other contestants to Trump, George and Carolynn. I can see the knives coming out already. I think Sandy can not only stand up for herself well but also has a leg to stand on in terms of winning tasks for teams.

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Jenn I think will be destroyed in the interviews. Everyone knows she is full of hot air and one of the weakest contributers from the other contestants to Trump, George and Carolynn. I can see the knives coming out already. I think Sandy can not only stand up for herself well but also has a leg to stand on in terms of winning tasks for teams.

The thing with the interviews is that I think the interviewers have no prior knowledge of what's gone on in the past. So they don't know Jen, and that is a "yooge" advantage for her. For that same reason, Sandy is at a disadvantage. Remember, she's an entrepreneur, so getting interviewed for a job is probably not something she's accustomed to. And again, these people are probably inclined to look down on her because she didn't go to some Ivy League school. I see her going the Amy route with the "safe" answers and thereby taking herself out of the competition.