AboveAverage484 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Muay Thai is a great style for knees and elbows, but it's really limited on kicks. Uh, limited on kicks? We do at LEAST 100 kicks a night where I train.
Angle-plex Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Honestly, NO martial art will win you a street fight because martial arts don't teach much about the enviorment. Thai boxing and BJJ are good in tournaments, but in real fights don't count on them. Boxing is good in a boxing ring and will show you how to throw a punch, but in a real fight it actually can HURT you, since most boxers are used to hitting targets with big gloves and actually miss a lot without them. Krav Maga and Ninjitsu/Shadowfist are the best for fights, basically because they take the enviorment into consideration and teach you how to use anything as a weapon and teach you how to fight people with weapons.
AboveAverage484 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 If you get in a street fight, the tried and true method of "kicking your opponent in the nuts, then while they're doubled over go to town on kneeing their face" usually works. If the nutshot doesn't work, run.
Slayer Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 I thought the tried and true method of street-fighting was "Shoot your opponent before he shoots you" That's what it seems like anyway. Nobody uses their hands anymore unless it involves a trigger.
Black Lushus Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 a beer bottle upside the head usually works in a pinch too...
Guest Joshua A. Norton Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 I got my black belt in Bar Stools.
Black Lushus Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 I got my black belt in Bar Stools. awesome!
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Hmm thanks all. This krav maga looks interesting and there's a school right in south philly too. It's the art of whipping someone's ass. Definitely the one to go with, unless you're after some philosophy too.
Nighthawk Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 This is all kind of stupid. If someobody points a gun at you, all you need is that thing Jackie Chan did in Rush Hour, which you can learn from watching the movie. I've done it in real life. If there's more than one person, you can't do anything. Because of this, you don't need to pick and choose which style you learn, because the only situation it will be useful in is against a single opponent, in which case nearly any discipline will defeat someone who is undisciplined. Therefore, what you need to be asking is which martial art looks the best. You must learn Drunken Boxing. I've been studying it for six years and never lost a fight, even though suckers will tell you it's not a very good style.
AboveAverage484 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Somebody tried that Krav Maga shit on this guy I know and he just looked at him and laughed. The guy was supposed to be a master or some dumb shit./
BrokenTiger Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 From what I've seen and heard, Krav Maga's seems to be very practical. IIRC Krav Maga comes from Israel, so no question about its practicality in streetfighting situations. Somebody mentioned about Filipino Arts like Kali and Silat being underrated. Don't know 'bout Kali, but I can vouch for Silat, since I was a former instructor of the art. Silat is bigger in Indonesia and Malaysia (where I'm from) than the Philippines, actually. Silat's pretty much of a mixed bag, really...striking, grappling/joint manipulation, even taichi-like forms/dance. A senior of mine who studied Muay Thai (tough MF'er) incorporate his skills into our silat class, so it's all good.
The Metal Maniac Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Explain drunken boxing. Is it really just making yourself look drunk while boxing, thus giving you the edge since the other guy thinks you're drunk when you're really not?
Guest Shoes Head Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 From what I've seen and heard, Krav Maga's seems to be very practical. IIRC Krav Maga comes from Israel, so no question about its practicality in streetfighting situations. As the worldly consensus is: There is no better streetfighter than Woody Allen.
AboveAverage484 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Pretty much in a one on one fight, with no weapons involved, the black belt in Muay Thai will handle pretty much anybody he comes across. (As long as he doesn't weigh like twice as much as he does or something.)
Guest BDC Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Muay Thai is a competative sport, not so much a martial art in terms of ranking. You train, you step into the professional ring, etc. That's how they do it in Thailand, anyway. Making any kind of statement that one style can take any other is assinine. There is NO SINLGE SYSTEM that works for everyone. Someone that's actually trained in Krav Maga is good. Someone actually trained in Muay Thai is good. Boxing is even good.
Nighthawk Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Explain drunken boxing. Is it really just making yourself look drunk while boxing, thus giving you the edge since the other guy thinks you're drunk when you're really not? Nah. There's that, but if you actually toss a few back, it helps by making you more limber and upping your pain tolerance. Fighting buzzed is more advanced than fighting with the appearance of being drunk. The pure form of drunken boxing is not a drunken version of an existing style, it's a style of it's own, although it is possible to have drunken versions of existing styles. The Eight Drunk Gods from the Jackie Chan movie is fake though.
Guest OldSkoolNWA Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 BDC is absolutely correct. Effectiveness and success in a certain style has nothing to do with whether one style is better than the rest, it just means that particular person is better than their opponents. If Joyce Gracie was a little bit slower thinker, he may not be as effective, therefore making his style seem inferior. IMO, it's best too find a style that incorporates throws, grappling, punching and kicking. Not too offend anyone, but with the exception of Kenpo, you should really try and stay away from "Karate", it seems to be a style more fitted for tournaments. I chose Kung Fu - San Soo as the style too learn, it teaches real world street tactics - it also teaches how too quickly and decisively end an encounter. Unfortunately there is no one style that is superior too all the rest, you just need too find a style that will emphasize your strenghts and allow you to stay away from your weaknesses.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 What does grabbing hold of someone's ear, and throwing headbutts and punches to the stomach and balls entail?
AboveAverage484 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 What does grabbing hold of someone's ear, and throwing headbutts and punches to the stomach and balls entail? An ass beating to the Nth degree. And karate is okay, but not Kenpo, try Kyokushin or Seido-Kaikan. Muay Thai is a competative sport, not so much a martial art in terms of ranking. You train, you step into the professional ring, etc. That's how they do it in Thailand, anyway. That's because ranking is bullshit, and all self-esteem. I know blue belts in Muay Thai that I could beat, and I'm a white belt. Belts are shit.
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