Star Wars Trilogy DVD Set

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Which one are you referring to?

 

1) Luke says "Carrie" after he gets out of the X-Wing after blowing up the Death Star. Leia runs up shouting "Luke", but Mark Hamill says "Carrie" instead.

 

2) Stormtrooper - when the Stormtroopers open the door to where C3PO & R2 are "hiding" (after Luke, Chewie, & Han go off to save Leia), one of the ST's (2nd or 3rd in line, IIRC) hits his head on the bottom of the opened door when he's walking in.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Never noticed error #1. I think I remember seeing #2...

[Slayer 0]

I still crack up watching the stormtrooper konk his head on the door

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I think they would keep in the Stormtrooper conking his head on the door.

 

In Ep II, Jango did it getting into Slave 1, and the commentarry by Lucas and staff said that it's going to be an in-joke: Jango couldn't see well through the helmet and kept hitting his head on doors, and the Stormtroopers, being clones of Jango, had the same problem.

[Kaertos 0]

in fact, my wife insists that in the Special Edition, they either cranked up or added a "clonk" sound when the tall ST hits his head. One of my favorite little moments in the trilogy.

 

And yes, it is still in there.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Lando bonks his head in Jabba's palace, too. IIRC, it's not long after we see him for the 1st time. He hits his head and it knocks his mask back a little bit.

[Guest SP-1]

You guys do realize that the SE's are what Lucas would have done in 77 if he could have, right? THEY are his vision. Not the originals. The originals are awesome, but they weren't what the creator wanted to get across.

 

I see no problems with the SE's. They're what we would have had anyway if Lucas had been able to pull it off then.

[Black Lushus 0]

that's always been my point in every single one of these threads...if he had the technology back then, the original trilogy would be as computer generated as the newer movies so that complaint really needs to be dropped...

[Guest SP-1]

that's always been my point in every single one of these threads...if he had the technology back then, the original trilogy would be as computer generated as the newer movies so that complaint really needs to be dropped...

Exactly. The additions to Mos Eisley in IV aren't pointless. Not at all. Before, you could see that it was maybe a run down spaceport. But in the SE IV, it's a bustling, much more busy place of business. Little things like that matter.

[Slayer 0]

While there are some additions I get (like the shot of Cloud City when Lando calls for evacuation shows the magnititude of the city and situation), too many additions just reeked of "Look what I can do with my computer" and I find it hard to believe his vision was horridly incomplete without them

 

That's just my opinion though

[Slayer 0]

One of my cases in point for this is the MIB-esque "music video" at the beginning of ROTJ... that was horrible

[Downhome 0]

I have no problem with him going back to these films every year and changing things if he wants to, and I don't care what he changes, no matter how big a change or little.

 

The point, is that when a filmmaker releases a film to the public in theaters, on video, etc... that even if he wants to change his films, he should always make available the orignal versions.

 

Period.

[Black Lushus 0]

agreed...that has got to be the one thing that really agitates me that I will agree with people on, other than that, I have no problems with his additions and I personally think they enhance the movie...the only problem I had with the Hayden/Sebastian switch is how it came off, it doesn't seem to fit in right for some reason...

[Downhome 0]

...the only problem I had with the Hayden/Sebastian switch is how it came off, it doesn't seem to fit in right for some reason...

I hate that switch for now.

 

Depending on how/if they explain to us the concept of what form a Jedi takes after death, it could change my opinion on that. If they try to say that Anikin "dies" in Episode III, then I can buy his being added to RotJ. If they do not try to explain that, then I'll hate that change even more.

 

Even if they say that though, you could argue that at the end of RotJ, that's when Anikin really dies seeing how he had a change of heart there, at his older age.

 

I hate the "Greedo shoots first" change because is alters the character of Han Solo, but I can put up with it.

 

I also hate the altered dialogue in the scene between Vader and the Emperorer. Things are said that do not need to be said, it's just a case of Lucas dumbing down the dialogue just as he's done with the first two episodes.

 

As far as the other changes, they are fine.

 

I may not like "Jar Jar" (or his people) being in RotJ, but I can live with that more than some nitpickers. I understand why that shot was put in there.

[Slayer 0]

The point, is that when a filmmaker releases a film to the public in theaters, on video, etc... that even if he wants to change his films, he should always make available the orignal versions.

What I'd like to know is if the technicalogical void for older films was so bad, why haven't other directors gone back to redo their older films? Why is it just Lucas who seems to be doing it?

 

I don't want to say that Lucas thinks SW fans are sheep who will drop money every time he feels like changing assorted things in his movies and then repackages them, but... that's essentially what it feels like

[Guest El Satanico]

Well, it's pretty obvious Lucas is into technology more than the other directors of that time. After all he was the driving force behind the technolgy filmmakers now have.

 

Besides, there weren't that many films back then that would've been majorly helped by today's tech.

[Guest SP-1]

The point, is that when a filmmaker releases a film to the public in theaters, on video, etc... that even if he wants to change his films, he should always make available the orignal versions.

What I'd like to know is if the technicalogical void for older films was so bad, why haven't other directors gone back to redo their older films? Why is it just Lucas who seems to be doing it?

 

I don't want to say that Lucas thinks SW fans are sheep who will drop money every time he feels like changing assorted things in his movies and then repackages them, but... that's essentially what it feels like

The thing is this: Lucas created a new universe. A new galaxy. And the monetary and technological implications of the time limited what he could do. He accomplished alot and should be proud of it. But I know how my own imagination is and I know that if I had the chance to go back and make something truly look the way I wanted, or at least come that much closer . . . I would.

[Downhome 0]

I'd also make the films that the fans fell in love with, the fans that made me stinking rich, available to them as well as the updated ones.

 

That's the only issue.

[Tawren 0]

SP-1, I don't like the added Mos Eisley or Cloud City stuff, but I can understand those being put in. But stuff like Greedo shooting first or changing the end song of ROTJ, those are things he could have done back then and he didn't. And it hurts the movies to change them all the time.

 

On a side note, I watched ep 2 this weekend and I realized what I've hated most about the prequels (aside from the wretched dialogue and overuse of CGI). It's a huge bureaucracy.

 

"We'll have to consult the Jedi council, Anakin."

 

"But master, to do that we'll need forms A, C, and C2."

 

"I know, my young Padawan apprentice. And to access form C2, we need forms 3A and FB."

 

"What will the Imperial Senate think of this?"

 

"It'll have to be discussed in a political roundtable. But to invite all the horrible CGI characters needed for that, we'll need forms C2 and P."

 

"We already need form C2."

 

"We'll need 2 copies, then."

 

"4 copies, actually, we must do doubles."

 

"Mee-sa feela like this a longu longu boying-a moveee!"

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

One of my cases in point for this is the MIB-esque "music video" at the beginning of ROTJ... that was horrible

Hey, that's my special bitchfest. Go find your own...

[Downhome 0]

Well, I just finished watching The Return of Darth Vader, all of the featurettes and Empire of Dreams...and WOW what an experience. I could watch material on Star Wars and the making of the films all day long, it's all just so interesting.

 

Now to finally actually watch all three films, then listen to the commentaries.

[Black Lushus 0]

the anakin/obi-wan battle was just so...i don't know...surreal to me...like i say i am pumped for episode 3 if only for that battle...

[Black Lushus 0]

Well, I just finished watching The Return of Darth Vader, all of the featurettes and Empire of Dreams...and WOW what an experience. I could watch material on Star Wars and the making of the films all day long, it's all just so interesting.

reminds me of porn, I can watch the behind the scenes shit on it all day long, i could care less about the porn itself...

[WrestlingFan4Ever 0]

Yeah, the Anakin-Obi Wan fight from Episode III will definitely be the high point. Both prequels have been building to this, and I doubt Lucas will disappoint. I am one of the few that liked the prequels. Nothing could have lived up to the originals. It's completely different actors. But come on, the prequels did have some high points. The Duel of Fates was one of them.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

In the original, Anakin is still supposed to be younger, but it doesn't look right just because Shaw still plays him. Notice how he is no longer scarred and has hair in the original version. My biggest worry was how Hayden would fit in the shot, but it looks fine.

 

My only complaints come from ANH, Greedo shooting first and the Jabba scene. Greedo is explained enough, and I liked the idea of Jabba being this big Blofeld type villain that you never saw. Both are improved on the DVD from the 1997 versions though. They also took out Luke's scream at Cloud City that I hated.

 

Overall, I am quite pleased with these DVDs.

[Damaramu 0]

On a side note, I watched ep 2 this weekend and I realized what I've hated most about the prequels (aside from the wretched dialogue and overuse of CGI). It's a huge bureaucracy.

Hmm....well that's your opinion. I actually enjoyed Episode I and II a great deal and didn't think it was as long winded as you suggest. Plus the political stuff is interesting to me.

[Guest Smues]

SP-1, I don't like the added Mos Eisley or Cloud City stuff, but I can understand those being put in. But stuff like Greedo shooting first or changing the end song of ROTJ, those are things he could have done back then and he didn't. And it hurts the movies to change them all the time.

 

On a side note, I watched ep 2 this weekend and I realized what I've hated most about the prequels (aside from the wretched dialogue and overuse of CGI). It's a huge bureaucracy.

 

"We'll have to consult the Jedi council, Anakin."

 

"But master, to do that we'll need forms A, C, and C2."

 

"I know, my young Padawan apprentice. And to access form C2, we need forms 3A and FB."

 

"What will the Imperial Senate think of this?"

 

"It'll have to be discussed in a political roundtable. But to invite all the horrible CGI characters needed for that, we'll need forms C2 and P."

 

"We already need form C2."

 

"We'll need 2 copies, then."

 

"4 copies, actually, we must do doubles."

 

"Mee-sa feela like this a longu longu boying-a moveee!"

The Simpsons did a pretty good job making fun of that.

 

That discussion is tabled. Or is it? Or is it??

[Kaertos 0]

Well, part of the point of the prequels is how the Republic fell and became the Empire. Part of it was deft political maneuvering by Palpatine so we need to see it. Another huge part is that the Republic is just collapsing under the weight of it's beuracracy. So they need to show it.

 

Personally, I enjoyed the prequels and I am looking forward to seeing that story come to fruition.

[Black Lushus 0]

Ditto to that....I have a question for the prequel haters, how would YOU have done it better than Lucas? I can't wait to see this...

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I don't "hate" the prequels (I own both), but one thing I didn't like was the attempt to put modern culture in these two. I'm sure you can point out similar feats in the older movies, but for some reason they stick out like a sore thumd in the newer ones.

 

Whenever that one thing says "Jar Jar you in some big doo-doo this time" I shake my head. Whenever I hear "I don't care what planet you're on, that's got to hurt" during that race (I may have misquoted it a bit) I roll my eyes. I want to hear about how the Falcon made the jump to lightspeed in 12 parsecs (or whatever it was).

 

Otherwise, I've been content with the first two movies, especially Ms. Portman. I like some of the foreshadowing "Why do I get the feeling you'll be the death of me/This is the boy that can bring balance to the galaxy (In the end, he was...)"