Don't want to vote for Nader in your swing state?

[Guest Cerebus]

Now you can swap votes!

 

Kerry backers devise vote-swap scheme

 

BY PAUL NUSSBAUM

 

Philadelphia Inquirer

 

PHILADELPHIA - Pssst! Want your vote to count? In Ohio? Or Florida?

 

You can now arrange to trade votes with a voter in another state, under a plan created by activists who don't want Ralph Nader to siphon off votes from John Kerry in vital swing states.

 

Today, a group called VotePair.org will start hooking up Kerry voters in "safe" Democratic or Republican states with third-party voters in hotly contested states. The goal: to get would-be third-party voters to vote for Kerry in swing states, in exchange for Kerry supporters voting for Nader or Green Party candidate David Cobb in secure states.

 

That way, third-party candidates would get as many popular votes as otherwise, while Kerry would maximize his votes in states where they matter most. For instance, a voter in "safe" New Jersey could agree to vote for Nader, in exchange for a voter in "swing" Ohio agreeing to vote for Kerry.

 

The organizers of VotePair.org insist vote-trading is legal, but some state elections officials are not so sure.

 

Organizers say they will begin linking voters today, at their Web site, www.votepair.org. Voters will be paired by e-mail, so they can "make sure that their partner is pledging in good faith."

 

Ok which side is supposed to be disenfranchising the vote this year? Oh yeah I forgot. Both. Hooray.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I like the other story I heard a while back about these bimbos promising to boink you for a Kerry vote...

[Guest BDC]

I like the other story I heard a while back about these bimbos promising to boink you for a Kerry vote...

Can you imagine going to trial for that kind of vote buying?

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

they did this in 2000 too

[Guest Loss]

When desperate politicians like John Kerry start pulling stunts like this to get around the system, it either means someone with such marginal support shouldn't be President or it means that the system is ridiculously flawed.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I like the other story I heard a while back about these bimbos promising to boink you for a Kerry vote...

Can you imagine going to trial for that kind of vote buying?

What I would do after giving one of these broads a hot-beef-injection is say that I'm was mislead and still vote for W.

 

She would then probably cry "rape..."

[Guest Ram]

What would happen if a bunch of Republicans posed as Green Party members in swing-states, thus taking votes away from Kerry and never adding them?

[2GOLD 0]

What would happen if a bunch of Republicans posed as Green Party members in swing-states, thus taking votes away from Kerry and never adding them?

 

I'd laugh.

 

Course it's probably impossible, they probably verify that they are registered independents.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

What would happen if a bunch of Republicans posed as Green Party members in swing-states, thus taking votes away from Kerry and never adding them?

Then Karl Rove will be blamed.

 

Besides, this could never happen -- these fakes will be spotted at the first SaveTheSpottedOwl/SocialsimRulz/Don'tDestroyTheRainforest/FreeMumia gathering.

 

They shower daily, after all...

[NoCalMike 0]

This is just another lame move by Democrats that refuse to address the fact that 7 million registered Democrats voted for Bush in 2000.

[Guest MikeSC]

I've never seen a guy whose support is less than half of the margin between Bush and Kerry cause such fear. Jesus, the GOP handled Perot INFINITELY better.

 

The Dems are simply working their ass off to explain why their guy tanked so royally in an election they mistakenly felt was in the bag.

-=Mike

...As I said back in February, hatred of Bush is not nearly enough...

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Because VoteSwap.org (or whatever this retarded website is called) is sanctioned DIRECTLY by the Democratic party!

[Guest MikeSC]

Because VoteSwap.org (or whatever this retarded website is called) is sanctioned DIRECTLY by the Democratic party!

Oh --- this is the LEAST of it. Don't even pretend that you failed to notice the obvious attempts to get Nader off of the ballot spearheaded by the Democratic Party.

 

Heck, YOU have been a part of it.

-=Mike

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Heck, YOU have been a part of it.

-=Mike

 

I HAVE DISENFRANCHISED RALPH NADER.

 

WHAT ABOUT YOU?

[MrRant 0]

Tyler... don't channel Dean on us now...

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Tyler, tell us which states you have disenfranchised Nader in

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I've never seen a guy whose support is less than half of the margin between Bush and Kerry cause such fear. Jesus, the GOP handled Perot INFINITELY better.

Yeah, they took nudy shots of his daughter, or something like that -- my memory is giving out on me...

[Guest BDC]

I've never seen a guy whose support is less than half of the margin between Bush and Kerry cause such fear. Jesus, the GOP handled Perot INFINITELY better.

Yeah, they took nudy shots of his daughter, or something like that -- my memory is giving out on me...

I thought he quit the race the first time because Bush Sr. had hired ninjas to break up his daughter's wedding.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Perhaps that was Plan B -- either that or the aliens...

[AndrewTS 0]

This is just another lame move by Democrats that refuse to address the fact that 7 million registered Democrats voted for Bush in 2000.

It probably varies per state, but in PA I believe you have to be a registered Democrat to vote in the Dem primaries, unless they changed that.

 

In the generals you can split your ticket, though.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

It does -- some states have hippie open primaries, which is a horrible idea imo. Can't remember which states do this though -- I think Mich. is one...

[AndrewTS 0]

It does -- some states have hippie open primaries, which is a horrible idea imo. Can't remember which states do this though -- I think Mich. is one...

Okay, thought so and figured you'd know. That's why my parents and I are registered Democrats. Doesn't have anything to do with who you're voting for in the general election.

[Guest MikeSC]

It does -- some states have hippie open primaries, which is a horrible idea imo. Can't remember which states do this though -- I think Mich. is one...

Do a quick study of what states John McCain won in 2000. Almost all of them probably have that lame system in place.

-=Mike

[jesse_ewiak 0]

Yup, can't have any of those darn Indies voting in the GOP primary. Why should they think they have a voice in the matter of choosing the nominee for President?

[2GOLD 0]

Yup, can't have any of those darn Indies voting in the GOP primary. Why should they think they have a voice in the matter of choosing the nominee for President?

 

They shouldn't be able to pick the candiate for a party they aren't part of. It's stupid. Be like allowing the Democrats to vote on who the Republican party nominee should be.

[Guest MikeSC]

Yup, can't have any of those darn Indies voting in the GOP primary. Why should they think they have a voice in the matter of choosing the nominee for President?

Why should a non-Republican have ANY say in who the Republicans select for their candidate?

 

I don't see the AFL-CIO asking ME who should lead their union.

-=Mike

[Dr. Tom 0]

Yup, can't have any of those darn Indies voting in the GOP primary. Why should they think they have a voice in the matter of choosing the nominee for President?

There are states which allow registered Independents to vote in one of their state's primaries. But really, why should someone who's not a registered member of a party have a say in who that party nominates for any office, let alone president? If I as a registered Independent couldn't vote in the primaries, I wouldn't really care.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

maybe registered independents could cast votes in their own open primary with all the candidates, but it wouldn't really be meaningful.

 

There's no party registration in Missouri though, and it's probably like that in a good number of states

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

F' that. If you want to be a hippy Indy, then you don't get to vote in the Dem. and Rep. primaries.

 

Yup, can't have any of those darn Indies voting in the GOP primary. Why should they think they have a voice in the matter of choosing the nominee for President?

 

Because they're not a member of that Party. Case closed...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Oh --- this is the LEAST of it. Don't even pretend that you failed to notice the obvious attempts to get Nader off of the ballot spearheaded by the Democratic Party.

 

Heck, YOU have been a part of it.

-=Mike

I'd approve of that. Hell, I don't care how scummy it is, I'd still approve of that.

 

I like Cobb. His message is pretty simple, to rally his base and make a showing of how many loyals they have in order to advance that party's agenda to certain other people (see also: Democrats.) He is spreading a message without rocking the boat.

 

Nader is all about rocking the boat, and it was solidified in grade-A stone when he left the Greens and then decided to run again. This has pretty much immortalized his campaigns as being pure ego vehicles. He's even actually screwing over the Greens this time, as many of the Greens are planning vote for him for no other reason than because he's Nader and he's always on the ballot.

 

For every action taken by the Democrats to keep Nader off a ballot, there's been twice as much reaction in the form of support or donations by Republicans to keep him there. It's fucking embarassing, and I'm disappointed to see the man's name still in lights even after he abandoned the movement he was identifying himself with.