Guest tnamark Report post Posted September 29, 2004 A few months back they had him do what looked like a character change and then he just vanished. Is he in Japan? He could be very useful in the main event scene to put over guys like Monty Brown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted September 29, 2004 I know he had been doing All-Japan, I'm unsure if he is still there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 If he's wise, he'd stay away from TNA. TNA took the careers of Raven, Shane Douglas, Sabu, Jerry Lynn, and Christopher Daniels - all HUGE names on the indy scene once not in WWE/WCW/ECW - and practically destroyed all of them (moreso than they were before). D'Lo's first TNA run was great. When he came back from injury/his first tour of All Japan (I believe he was injured and then came back, but feel free to correct me), TNA was on the path to their own destruction. He should've learned better then and just went "bye bye, JJ." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Col. Mustard, in the Dining Room, with the Revolver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinToxic 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 He is apart of a "gaijin" stable called RO&D which include members - Buchanan, Mike Awesone, Kaz Hayashi, Ekmo and Taiyo Kea. I'm pretty sure he was one of the bunch of people who refused to sign with TNA few months ago - to keep working in Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Actually D'Lo has been the guy in the Coming Soon vignettes (the dude with his head bowed, and when he goes to turn around they cut to the coming soon logo). Although Meltz said that he's opted to stay in Japan for now, so that looks to be dropped. In a related note, Spanky, after filming vignettes for a debut and everything, also opted to stay in Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Actually D'Lo has been the guy in the Coming Soon vignettes (the dude with his head bowed, and when he goes to turn around they cut to the coming soon logo). Although Meltz said that he's opted to stay in Japan for now, so that looks to be dropped. In a related note, Spanky, after filming vignettes for a debut and everything, also opted to stay in Japan. You know TNA has a terrible product when D'Lo and Spanky suddenly decide not to be in TNA after getting vignettes filmed for them earlier. Three suggestions would be to take the belt off Jarrett, change Impact's format to an A-show instead of the jobber-squash B-show that TNA has right now, and start improving the overall product by featuring better matches that lead up to the PPV's. Of course, Jarrett runs TNA, and no one's going to go against what Mantel and Jarrett say in their booking, so it'll definitely be hard for any legit World Heavyweight title contender to beat him cleanly without him winning the belt right back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Donners Report post Posted September 30, 2004 He's not much of a loss. He never got over in TNA and I can't really think of one remarkable match he had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 He never got over in TNA Bull. Fucking. Shit. The man was the one of the most over people in the company from the time when he debuted until he left for his first tour of Japan. He faced Jeff Jarrett in the main event for the NWA World title when Jarrett still faced people that could possibly beat him, and was AJ Styles' first opponent when AJ first won the title. He got some of the loudest reactions each week, and his matches were HOT. But no, he wasn't over. Riiiiight. and I can't really think of one remarkable match he had. His feud with AJ produced a couple *** matches, and his tag matches when AJ was his partner were pretty damn solid. Nothing was TERRIFIC, but compared to the other people on the roster at the time (and today) that weren't X-Division? He was one of the top 5 workers in the company (hanging with Styles, Daniels, Ki, and Sabin). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 30, 2004 He's not much of a loss. He never got over in TNA and I can't really think of one remarkable match he had. He's had more than JJ in TNA. -=Mike ...More over, too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted September 30, 2004 More talented too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 30, 2004 More talented too. That goes without saying. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted September 30, 2004 The thread was on a roll, so I thought I'd slip that in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinToxic 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 I don't know, for someone that relatively young and full of years in the business I would expect much better work rate from Brown. In the late 90's he at least had fire in him, in many ways he was a character without actually having a strong gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I always found D'Lo Brown highly overrated. His "great" matches in WWE were at a time when the overall ring-work was down, so I think that played into his "being a great wrestler". The guy has talent. He's a good wrestler. But it's still D'Lo Brown. He didn't impress me in TNA, where he should've flourished. My fav. D'Lo match ever (IMO his best match) was against Val Venis @ SSlam 98. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 He's not much of a loss. He never got over in TNA and I can't really think of one remarkable match he had. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. As someone who had to sit through those shit shows in June/July 03- D-Lo was very over with the crowd. Remember that loud crowd reaction during his brawl with AJ after the cage match? I do think his matches with AJ were nothing special but don't say he wasn't over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I do think his matches with AJ were nothing special but don't say he wasn't over. I would agree that he was definately over....also, those where DLO's best TNA matches easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I always found D'Lo Brown highly overrated. His "great" matches in WWE were at a time when the overall ring-work was down, so I think that played into his "being a great wrestler". The guy has talent. He's a good wrestler. But it's still D'Lo Brown. He didn't impress me in TNA, where he should've flourished. My fav. D'Lo match ever (IMO his best match) was against Val Venis @ SSlam 98. I don't think anyone ever said he was a great wrestler. He wasn't/isn't. That doesn't mean he isn't any good. He is. His match with Val was a lot of fun, and I'd lump his match with Jarrett from the following year in the same boat. Other than that, a bunch of solid matches, nothing really remarkable. But I'm a huge D-Lo mark regardless, so huzza(h?). In TNA, I always felt the D-Lo/AJ vs Siaki/Young match was really good, and it never seemed to get any credit. The AJ series was fun, especially the No. 1 Contenders match with the insane frogsplash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I never got into any of them. The ladder match had the screwy finish, the cage was way too short, and the #1 contenders match was just one highspot and nothing else. The "match" they had on June 25th was awesome though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Donners Report post Posted October 1, 2004 He never got over in TNA Bull. Fucking. Shit. The man was the one of the most over people in the company from the time when he debuted until he left for his first tour of Japan. He faced Jeff Jarrett in the main event for the NWA World title when Jarrett still faced people that could possibly beat him, and was AJ Styles' first opponent when AJ first won the title. He got some of the loudest reactions each week, and his matches were HOT. But no, he wasn't over. Riiiiight. I'm watching the entrances in his match with AJ against Triple X from that period. Let's see...nice reaction for Triple X, good pop for AJ...something between a grumble and murmur for D'Lo. The only pop of the night he got was for a top-rope move, and popping for the moves rather than the person does not say much for the person. Many of his reactions in other matches also got smatterings of boos even when he was a face. For the amount he was being paid and pushed at that time, I don't think he got nearly enough reaction. and I can't really think of one remarkable match he had. His feud with AJ produced a couple *** matches, and his tag matches when AJ was his partner were pretty damn solid. Nothing was TERRIFIC, but compared to the other people on the roster at the time (and today) that weren't X-Division? He was one of the top 5 workers in the company (hanging with Styles, Daniels, Ki, and Sabin). Who couldn't put on *** matches with AJ? I found Abyss' matches with AJ to be far superior to D'Lo's, and in his tag matches it seemed to be the other people who did most of the work (including the match I mentioned above). He was solid in the ring, but again for his push and pay, not really enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 But you could easily say the same for Jeff Jarrett, could you not? And Chris Harris. And Monty Brown. And even for Truth. During D'Lo's first run with TNA, he was more over than all of them have been since. Also, you're basing whether or not he was over on one match where everybody knew he would be the weak link? Why don't you try finding his other matches from around that period, such as the series he had against Styles, or his match with Jeff Jarrett, or even just his staredown with JJ when it was unclear whether or not D'Lo was going to join SEX or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magus 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 Going by this logic, I guess you could say that its a good thing TNA got rid of CM Punk too. I mean, the guy was shit in the ring, he couldn't give a promo to save his life, and his character was totally bland. Yessir, TNA didn't need his mediocre ass. Bring on more Jeff Hardy! Donners, I respect that you're trying to make a challenging arguement, but to say that D'Lo was unskilled and unover is just plain stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Donners Report post Posted October 2, 2004 Going by this logic, I guess you could say that its a good thing TNA got rid of CM Punk too. I mean, the guy was shit in the ring, he couldn't give a promo to save his life, and his character was totally bland. Yessir, TNA didn't need his mediocre ass. Bring on more Jeff Hardy! Actually, I could absolutely say that. Punk had 21 PPV matches by my count. Was even a couple above maybe **1/2? He didn't have the greatest opponents, but if I can detect talent in Lance Storm during his chokeslam streak and can't see it in all these Punk matches, then there is a serious problem. If he's not turning in good performances in TNA, and not particularly over, then he is of little use to TNA. Donners, I respect that you're trying to make a challenging arguement, but to say that D'Lo was unskilled and unover is just plain stupid. I didn't say that at all. Indeed, I said he was a quite solid worker. That's not "unskilled", merely not enough to justify the high cost of a reasonably big name without the crowd reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magus 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2004 I almost expected you to say something like that. Anyways, you didn't say that D'Lo was unskilled, but you DID say that he wasn't very over. He was very much over in TNA. Well, as over as one can be when the bookers are constantly sabotaging the shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 D'Lo isn't as over as Monty Brown is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 D'Lo is gonna be working in the UK sometime soon, so I'm guessing he's on some bigass tour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 D'Lo isn't as over as Monty Brown is now. That's because he doesn't have the POOOOUUUUNNNCCCEEEE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 4, 2004 D-Lo, in all likelyhood, is probably dead. I mean, it's amazing that he was even WALKING after getting the Pounce on the outside of the ring. Then he got it, THROUGH A TABLE! He can't still be breathing. C'mon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 I bet Monty Brown could kick Goldberg's ass. POUNCE>SPEAR!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 D'Lo isn't as over as Monty Brown is now. Mostly because D'Lo's been primarily in Japan since late 2003, and he's deteriorated in the ring greatly. Also, it doesn't help when your last stint in TNA was as Gran Apolo's (read: UBER-SHITTY WORKER THAT WAS BROUGHT IN BECAUSE HE'S BUDDIES WITH DUTCH AND LOOKS LIKE HE'S ON ROIDS) partner against Kid Kash (Your New Favorite Wrestler) and Dallas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
