Australian Pride 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 This Monday is the first time since his return from injury that I've actually cared about what Edge does in the slightest. There's a whole heap of possibilites involving Benoit/Michaels/Evolution. But what would you like to see happen? Do you put him in with Evolution? Personally I don't see the point in this. The basic reasoning for his heel turn was that he was bitter about not getting the World Title shot, and if he hooks up with Evolution then there is a guarantee that there won't be any title shots in his future. And will there even be an Evoloution after Taboo Tuesday? What direction does Flair go in after the cage match? Does Edge do the most obvious thing and feud with Chris Benoit? It has the makings of a great confrontation - either as a singles match, with the winner getting control of both tag titles and can choose his own partner, or initially as a tag match - pick their partners first and then wrestle with the titles on the line. Personally, I'd like to see Edge/Christian against Benoit/Jericho on Raw, and then something like Edge/Christian/HHH/Batista/Flair (or Tomko if Flair goes face) against Benoit/Jericho/Orton/Regal/Eugene. Save their first singles match for Royal Rumble, if there is room, or for the next Raw exclusive PPV. Edge vs Shawn Michaels has to be put on the back-burner due to HBK's injury, but we should definately see this in the new year sometime. Form a Team Canada type stable with Edge, Christian, La Resistance and Tomko (who I don't believe is Canadian, but neither was Brian Pillman)? It's been done to death, but Christian is a master of working the crowd, and heel Edge is good at it as well. It would also give La Resistance a boost, and would likely lead to them getting the titles back, and hopefully they get higher profile challengers next time around. Where would you take it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Pair him up with Trish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Pillman was in the Hart Foundation because he started out in Stampede Wrestling and had close ties with the Hart Family. Tomko in Team Canada would make no sense. That said, they don't need another stable. Just have E&C hook up and feud with Benoit/Jericho (who I think should step up and take Edge's half of the tag belt, as I mentioned in another thread). Edge/Michaels can be saved for WM, or the Rumble if they're desperate enough for it. They could also do something different and have Edge not align with ANY heels, thus making him an actual loner character who does anything and everything to benefit only himself. Just a selfish dick who's proud of his actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted October 20, 2004 New Evolution: Triple H, Christian, Edge, and Batista. Maybe even Tomko? Good guys: Orton, Flair, Jericho, Benoit, and Michaels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Dammit first somebody made the blaspemous move of making a Eugene and Pillman comparison now TOMKO? The man's been dead for seven years let's show him a little respect Anyway I'm up for Edge-O-Christian vs The Canadian Chrises again, a flashback to the last time WWE truly was entertaining (mid-2001, before that crap known as InVasion) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Australian Pride 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Pillman was in the Hart Foundation because he started out in Stampede Wrestling and had close ties with the Hart Family. Tomko in Team Canada would make no sense. That said, they don't need another stable. Just have E&C hook up and feud with Benoit/Jericho (who I think should step up and take Edge's half of the tag belt, as I mentioned in another thread). Yeah, I know Pillman (and Neidhart) had the actual connection to Bret Hart, I only included Tomko because he seems to be joined at the hip to Christian at the moment, and he needs to be surrounded by guys who can at least attempt to cover for his inabilities (same as Sylvan Grenier). I like the loner idea for Edge. Just have him attack anyone and everyone (faces and heels) until he gets what he wants, and be damn proud of it all. Kinda like the 1996/97 Austin, but I would definately try to play down any similarities between them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Edge should be in Evolution. He won't be getting a title shot anytime soon due to HHH being the champ. No point in a heel vs. heel match as almost everyone would shit on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Well, no, they shouldn't have a heel vs heel match. But that doesn't mean Edge should join Evolution. He still wants the title, heel or not. It is possible to be a top heel not in Evolution, since it's not even a huge group anymore. Edge would be fine as a smarmy bastard to everybody. Actually, pretty similar to heel Jericho. A couple allies, yes. But not friends with all heels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Have him join Evolution as a "hired gun" of Triple H. He never really was after the title, he was just hired by H to get between Benoit and HBK and derail their road to the title. Then of course to not make him look like a pussy for the rest of his career, later on down the road when he turns face(if the fans are clamoring for a face turn) he can say he did what he did just to "Get ahead" in his career, and that he used Triple H and Evolution to elevate himself. Then he wins the title from Triple H. If he continues getting the X-Pac treatment, then umm.. just throw him off to the side and forget you ever saw him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Ideally there should be an extended feud with HBK, but the injury takes away that possibility. Edge should not be in Evolution. They've got too much already. They'll be like the NWO if all the credible heels join. The can't feud with with HHH because he's a heel, so maybe one with Jericho over a title shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest radobar Report post Posted October 21, 2004 What they need to do for edge, is have him a tweener, that in backstage skits just randomly spears people. just say rob conway is walking, edge comes out of nowhere spears him and says "Now thats cutting edge" just have him do that for awhile untill shawn micheals gets back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Seriously, where does the guy go from here? He's heel. He's bitter because of lack of opportunity. You won't establish yourself as a heel chasing HHH for the title. Now what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Valcourt Report post Posted October 21, 2004 I'd like to see the WWE make Edge a badass heel. Just goes out and kicks ass saying he deserves a title shot. Putting him with Evolution would not interest me one bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 They can start by getting rid of his shitty theme music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Just forget about him being Tag Champ with Benoit. He can just never show up for the match, and let Benoit pick his own partner. I was thinking he could destroy Shelton Benjamin. He can just see Benjamin as a guy not even worthy for the IC gold, and since Edge never really lost it in a match they can go that route. While he is feuding with Shelton, I'd let Jericho feud with Trips and win the gold. It will never happen, but that's the way I want it to go. It would look bad to put him with Evolution. Just let him be a badass, and let him use that submission finisher he did a few times(can't remember the name). Let that move become death. Once you see it, the match is over. I've never liked Edge, but this is the first time I actually care about him. I just hope the creative team doesn't drop the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Just forget about him being Tag Champ with Benoit. He can just never show up for the match, and let Benoit pick his own partner. I'd be less surprised if they have Edge show up on Monday and say he deserves one of the belts, as he was 'officially' a winner in the match. Then we'll get the tired 'partners who hate each other' storyline, until the two start to fight in matches. Which'll probably lead to Edge vs. Benoit for the Tag Titles or something dumb like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest curry_man2002 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Sack him/fire him the guy is just another midcarder who is a filler like almost every match is in wwe these days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dooder Report post Posted October 21, 2004 ^ you have, like, the worst ideas ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 21, 2004 To a point where I don't want you in my folder anymore. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlaskanHero 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 What I wanna see is Edge go crazy. He takes his tag title and starts pretending it's the World Title. They'll show Edge backstage talking to the title while shining it, saying in his promos how he's the greatest world champion and when people tell him it's not the world title, he snaps and kicks the guy's ass. Meanwhile Evolution laughs at how deluded Edge is. Finally, Chris Benoit gets a new partner, but when they try to get the belt from Edge he refuses saying how Benoit isn't good enough to be "World Champion". So to get the title back the two feud. Benoit eventually wins and gives the title to his partner. When Edge sees this, he complains to Bischoff about how the title can't be handed over like that. When Bischoff tells Edge it's just a tag title, Edge beats Eric's ass and trashes his office. Edge then challenges Benoit's partner to a match for the title and for a while he refuses, but Edge's constant backstage attacks and run-ins, costing the partner singles matches and the tag team non-title matches, so he finally accepts. The two have a match and Edge wins by cheating then runs with his title. HHH, not wanting to miss a chance to get more heat, I mean, seeing Edge's obvious talents invites Edge into Evolution, promising to protect Edge and make sure he never loses his "World Title". This leads to feuds between Benoit and his partner against Evolution. Then on Raw we have an Evolution run-in and cost Benoit and his partner a match against Christian and Tomko. The match is thrown out as the six (HHH, Edge, Batista, Flair, Tomko, and Christian) beat up Benoit and his partner. Then running out for the save is Shelton (who'd be feuding against Batista). However the numbers game goes against Shelton. A few moments later we have *insert Raw face that needs push here* come out to try and help, but is quickly beaten down. HHH Pedigrees the faces and then poses expecting to hear their music, but instead Orton's plays. He runs in from the back with a chair, clears the ring of heels as the faces get back to their feet and (hopefully) for SurSer we have Orton, Benoit, Benjamin, Benoit's partner, and the face that's getting pushed against Evolution that now has Christian and Tomko with Flair on the outside as manager. The match goes on and the final two are Benoit's partner and Edge. The announcers cream their pants as they remember what caused the bitter feud between Benoit's partner and Edge. Eventually Benoit's partner wins the SurSer and gets his tag belt back and many options could be taken from the results of the match. That's what I think they should do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 What I wanna see is Edge go crazy. He takes his tag title and starts pretending it's the World Title. They'll show Edge backstage talking to the title while shining it, saying in his promos how he's the greatest world champion and when people tell him it's not the world title, he snaps and kicks the guy's ass. Meanwhile Evolution laughs at how deluded Edge is. Finally, Chris Benoit gets a new partner, but when they try to get the belt from Edge he refuses saying how Benoit isn't good enough to be "World Champion". So to get the title back the two feud. Benoit eventually wins and gives the title to his partner. When Edge sees this, he complains to Bischoff about how the title can't be handed over like that. When Bischoff tells Edge it's just a tag title, Edge beats Eric's ass and trashes his office. Edge then challenges Benoit's partner to a match for the title and for a while he refuses, but Edge's constant backstage attacks and run-ins, costing the partner singles matches and the tag team non-title matches, so he finally accepts. The two have a match and Edge wins by cheating then runs with his title. HHH, not wanting to miss a chance to get more heat, I mean, seeing Edge's obvious talents invites Edge into Evolution, promising to protect Edge and make sure he never loses his "World Title". This leads to feuds between Benoit and his partner against Evolution. Then on Raw we have an Evolution run-in and cost Benoit and his partner a match against Christian and Tomko. The match is thrown out as the six (HHH, Edge, Batista, Flair, Tomko, and Christian) beat up Benoit and his partner. Then running out for the save is Shelton (who'd be feuding against Batista). However the numbers game goes against Shelton. A few moments later we have *insert Raw face that needs push here* come out to try and help, but is quickly beaten down. HHH Pedigrees the faces and then poses expecting to hear their music, but instead Orton's plays. He runs in from the back with a chair, clears the ring of heels as the faces get back to their feet and (hopefully) for SurSer we have Orton, Benoit, Benjamin, Benoit's partner, and the face that's getting pushed against Evolution that now has Christian and Tomko with Flair on the outside as manager. The match goes on and the final two are Benoit's partner and Edge. The announcers cream their pants as they remember what caused the bitter feud between Benoit's partner and Edge. Eventually Benoit's partner wins the SurSer and gets his tag belt back and many options could be taken from the results of the match. That's what I think they should do. Except the fact that Edge had already done a promo sarcastically thanking the fans for the tag title match, so this shows Edge knows the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr. Wrestling Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Pillman was in the Hart Foundation because he started out in Stampede Wrestling and had close ties with the Hart Family. Tomko in Team Canada would make no sense. That said, they don't need another stable. Just have E&C hook up and feud with Benoit/Jericho (who I think should step up and take Edge's half of the tag belt, as I mentioned in another thread). Edge/Michaels can be saved for WM, or the Rumble if they're desperate enough for it. They could also do something different and have Edge not align with ANY heels, thus making him an actual loner character who does anything and everything to benefit only himself. Just a selfish dick who's proud of his actions. WWE could always make up a story about him being related to former Toronto promoter Al Tomko who actually ran a pretty big promotion back in the Territorial days. Of course only about 1% of the fanbase knows who Al is so that'd fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted October 22, 2004 They could just say He married Christian's sister. Easy as that. He's family now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Didn't Tomko debut on a Raw in Canada? There's a Canadian link for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Here is what I don't get about Tomko, besides his complete lack of talent...How and Why is he even Christian's "Problem Solver"? They never offered a explaination of why they even knew each other, I mean at least say "Tyson and I were friends in High School" or that Trish used to date Tyson or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Here is what I don't get about Tomko, besides his complete lack of talent...How and Why is he even Christian's "Problem Solver"? They never offered a explaination of why they even knew each other, I mean at least say "Tyson and I were friends in High School" or that Trish used to date Tyson or something. Christain met Tyson while in a bar. Tyson was a bouncer that had the "look." Christain paid Tyson to be the "Problem Solver." There...simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeathBecomesYou Report post Posted October 24, 2004 I'd like to see Edge go back to something like the original character, become dark and sinister again. I guess i'd like to see him slowly turn more and more psychotic every week, if Shawn turns up on Raw this week, i'd like to see Edge just fucking destroy him, which would give Shawn a storyline reason for absence and a setup for a feud when he returns. From there, for a few weeks have Edge in no real feud, but show the character getting more and more cold blooded, hell, they could even take a page from Austin vs Pillman and have Edge break into Shawn's home and beat the shit out of him there. From that, Benoit being the all around good guy he is, goes after Edge (because "it's the right thing to do"), leading to a feud between the two (whether it'd be over possesion of the tag belts I don't know) which Edge wins, just as Shawn is ready to return. That way, we could get two entertaining feuds for the future, by the time Shawn comes back, Edge is built up as such a prick that the audience wants to see Shawn kill him. It'd be nice to have a properly done feud based on pure hate for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites