The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Somehow, I think Czech's math works like this: x errors for Tampa Bay < the error after the Bartman ball where x is any number in the base-10 numbering system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Bruiser, there's information regarding the "Believe" bracelets at Cubs.com. Apparently you can order them over the phone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Okay this really has nothing to do with the offseason and only probably Al will care about this list but I didn't really think it was worth it's own thread. I've assembled the Top 100 players in total Win Shares while playing with the Oakland A's (just the Oakland club, not the Athletics franchise). This what they did with Oakland, not an assesment of a player's entire career. I broke ties by ranking the player with less playing time with the A's higher. 1. Rickey Henderson 2. Reggie Jackson 3. Mark McGwire 4. Sal Bando 5. Bert Campaneris 6. Jose Canseco 7. Jason Giambi 8. Dwayne Murphy 9. Carney Lansford 10. Terry Steinbach 11. Joe Rudi 12. Miguel Tejada 13. Vida Blue 14. Gene Tenace 15. Catfish Hunter 16. Eric Chavez 17. Dennis Eckersley 18. Tim Hudson 19. Rollie Fingers 20. Dave Henderson 21. Dave Stewart 22. Tony Phillips 23. Billy North 24. Wayne Gross 25. Rick Monday 26. Mike Davis 27. Barry Zito 28. Rick Langford 29. Mark Mulder 30. Dick Green 31. Tony Armas 32. Mike Bordick 33. Matt Stairs 34. Mitchell Page 35. Ken Holtzman 36. Bob Welch 37. Blue Moon Odom 38. Ramon Hernandez 39. Ben Grieve 40. Mike Heath 41. Steve McCatty 42. Terrence Long 43. Mike Norris 44. Geronimo Berroa 45. Mike Gallego 46. Paul Linblad 47. Mike Moore 48. Scott Brosius 49. Matt Keogh 50. Scott Hatteberg 51. Dave Revering 52. Walt Weiss 53. Stan Javier 54. Mike Esptein 55. Alfredo Griffin 56. Curt Young 57. Dave Kingman 58. Dave Duncan 59. Harold Baines 60. Diego Segui 61. Rick Honeycutt 62. Erubiel Durazo 63. Eric Byrnes 64. Ruben Sierra 65. Jermaine Dye 66. Bruce Bochte 67. Billy Taylor 68. Steve Ontiveros 69. Chuck Dobson 70. Davey Lopes 71. Caudell Washington 72. Jeff Newman 73. Brent Gates 74. Gene Nelson 75. Lance Blankenship 76. Mark Ellis 77. Phil Garner 78. Jim Essian 79. Luis Polonia 80. Gil Heredia 81. Frank Menechino 82. Jason Isringhausen 83. Scott Spiezio 84. Danny Cater 85. Randy Velarde 86. Bob Lacey 87. Kenny Rogers 88. Cory Lidle 89. Dave Parker 90. Don Baylor 91. Jeff Burroughs 92. Chad Bradford 93. Donnie Hill 94. Angel Mangual 95. Billy Williams 96. Ron Hassey 97. Todd Burns 98. Ron Darling 99. Mudcat Grant 100. Tom Underwood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I actually did a top 50 list for the Phillies, and I might complete it someday. I'm debating whether to combine it with the Philadelphia Athletics, and then there's the question of whether I should get cute and include the Negro league Hillsdale club. Good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Did either of you guys (or anybody else) order Baseball Prospectus 2005? It comes out 2/22 I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2005 I was surprised to see that this bit of news on Magglio's contract went without discussion here in this folder. This is probably vanilla frosting on a turd cupcake, but here's the clause: The Tigers structured a contract for Ordonez that gives the team some protection if he is hampered by injuries, just as they did with Rodriguez. The Tigers would have the right to void Ordonez's contract after the 2005 season if he has a recurrence of the left knee injury that limited his production with the Chicago White Sox for most of last year and if the reoccurrence lands him on the disabled list for 25 days or more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2005 Great job by the Tigers. They overpayed a bit anyway, but this is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2005 http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...BAGS3B7U761.DTL A's sale: A birdie tells us that the sale price for the Oakland A's is $170 million -- or about twice what the current owners, Steve Schott and Ken Hofmann, paid for the team nine years ago. That works out to roughly a $10 million profit for every year they've owned the ballclub -- not a bad rate of return. Incidentally, a source close to the team says only two buyers were listed in the ownership change application submitted to Major League Baseball -- Los Angeles developer/deal maker Lew Wolff and John Fisher, son of Gap founder Donald Fisher and an executive of the Pisces Group, the family's investment company. Nobody's saying just yet who will own what percentage of the team, or which new investors might be added to the ownership group. But as one A's insider put it, "Mr. Wolff is really the (investment manager) guy, and has nowhere near the wealth of the Fisher family.'' No kidding. Forbes Magazine recently listed John Fisher as the 165th wealthiest American -- worth $1.5 billion. If the A's get a new park we now know what corporate sponsor will get the naming rights. Hopefully they won't change to fleece uniforms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Mets sign Jose Rosado to a MLC as a gift to Carlos Beltran, who is best friends with Rosado. Here we go again with politics. Only a minor deal, but politics have hurt the Mets in the past, Joe McEwing anybody? Thanks Franco and Leiter for getting "Super" Joe an extension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Reggie Jackson along with an investment group tried buying the Athletics and were denied. They offered $25mill more and were turned down as Schott said he had already come to an agreement with Hoffman. Apparently Reggie Jackson might sue. "I offered more! Gimme, gimme, gimme! " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 If the A's get a new park we now know what corporate sponsor will get the naming rights. Hopefully they won't change to fleece uniforms. Oh god, here come the giant Sara Jessica Parker billboards in the gaps of the outfield A's announcer: "He hit that one to the Gap! Where fleece pullovers are only 19.95!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Mariners interested in Mexican right-hander By JOHN HICKEY SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER The Mariners are interested in adding one more bit of pitching, even with the reporting day for pitchers and catchers just a week away. Jorge Campillo, who starred for Mexico in the Caribbean World Series after dominating the country's winter league, got favorable reports from Mariners scouts at the series, which finished up over the weekend. As a result, the Mariners are in discussions about adding the right-hander to their stable of pitchers. The Mariners will have their pitchers and catchers report for spring training next Wednesday in Peoria, Ariz., with the first workout to take place the next day. There were suggestions on the Internet yesterday that Seattle had signed Campillo, 26, but club sources said that hadn't happened. It seems there will be competition as Detroit has also made overtures to the right-hander. For his part, Campillo seems eager to leave Mexico and head north. "I'm working hard to make it to the major leagues," Campillo said last week after his final start in the Caribbean Series, eight innings in a 4-0 victory over Puerto Rico in which he didn't allow more than one base runner in any inning. "I don't know if I am good enough yet, but that's what I dream about." Campillo was just a .500 pitcher (5-5 with a 5.38 earned-run average) for the Aragua Tigers during the summer in Mexico. But as the weather cooled, he got hot. Campillo won his first 10 starts for Culiacan in the Mexican Pacific League and finished with a 10-1 record and a 2.05 ERA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Reggie Jackson along with an investment group tried buying the Athletics and were denied. They offered $25mill more and were turned down as Schott said he had already come to an agreement with Hoffman. Apparently Reggie Jackson might sue. "I offered more! Gimme, gimme, gimme! " Thank god. Reggie owning the Athletics would have been an utter disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 MINNEAPOLIS -- The Twins and American League Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana avoided arbitration Monday after reaching an agreement on a new four-year contract through the 2008 season. The deal is pending until Santana takes a physical later Monday. Terms of the contract were not immediately known. "It gives me the security that we want," Santana said from Fort Myers, Fla. "But also you feel more comfortable that you're going to be with the team for a few more years. That's what I've been looking for." Santana was 20-6 with an AL-leading 2.61 ERA in 2004, including a dominating 13-0 mark and 1.21 ERA after the All-Star break. He also led the league with 265 strikeouts and was unanimously elected to receive the Cy Young Award. The 25-year-old pitcher, who made $1.6 million last season after losing his arbitration case, was scheduled to return to arbitration against the club Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 Huge huge signing. Give credit where credits too Pohlad does pay his best players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 Am I getting this right? Did he sign for about 6 million a year? Is Santana thinking straight!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 No 4 years between 37-42 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 No 4 years between 37-42 million. Ohh. Where'd you get that info? I saw on ESPN.com that he asked for 6.8 million. Maybe i'm just pissed that I won't see him in a Yankee uniform till he's 34. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 Local reports are saying it's in that range. They broke the story initially so I'll take their word on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 I just saw it on rotoworld.com. Had he had an injury free year, he could've signed for a few million more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 I think the contract will increase from year to year. 6 million to 8 million and so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 No 4 years between 37-42 million. Maybe i'm just pissed that I won't see him in a Yankee uniform till he's 34. Now you know why people hate the Yankees? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2005 Mets sign Todd Van Poppel to a minor league deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted February 15, 2005 Santana's contract covers his last 2 arb years and his first 2 free agent years. So 4/40 in this case is more like 2/25-ish. Still a great deal, by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted February 15, 2005 Glad to see Johan get the money he deserves. On an unrelated note XM's 24-hour MLB station starts tommorow. Huzzah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2005 I'll miss the start-up of the XM channel unfortunately, but I get to tune in starting Tuesday night. Larry Bowa will host the morning show. As for Johan Santana, this is a HUGE, huge signing. Congrats to the "small market" Twins, who have somehow managed to re-sign two of the AL's five best starters (based on last year's Win Shares) in a single offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2005 IMO the Twins HAVE to win a championship in the next couple years to avoid being branded one of the biggest chokers of all-time, right along with the Braves. They go to the playoffs every year and never get it done, and right now they have everything in place to win, great pitching, veteran talent, blue chip talent, a highly regarded manager, etc. etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2005 Yeah but nobody has any expectations for the Twins, so the choker label isn't the same as the Braves, or now, the Yankees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2005 That's not entirely true, people certainly have high expectations for the Twins, they're perennial favorites in that division and many "experts" picked them to beat NY in the playoffs last year. They certainly have the pedigree and experience to be considered a favorite, especially when teams like Florida and Anaheim are able to win. But agreed on the Yankees, with the money they spend anything less than a WS appearance has to be considered a disapointment for them, and even that isn't enough for most people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2005 Get out of the LDS, and we'll go on from there. 2 straight years against the Yankees. that almost mirrored each other is old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites