Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 With the Kerry concession, this can now be unpinned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Oh what cruel fate. The CNN Prediction thread was the big one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 I want John Kerry to cry during his speech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted November 3, 2004 As long as he doesn't scream he'll be fine I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 3, 2004 I want John Kerry to cry during his speech. I want John Edwards to do a heel turn and cut a promo on John Kerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 I want John Kerry to cry during his speech. I want John Edwards to do a heel turn and cut a promo on John Kerry. I think Kerry is the sensitive kinda guy who might tear up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Wow, that was great typing I did last night, wasn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Wow, that was great typing I did last night, wasn't it? How big is your hangover? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 I want John Kerry to cry during his speech. I want John Edwards to do a heel turn and cut a promo on John Kerry. I think Kerry is the sensitive kinda guy who might tear up. I heard a little. "We still gotcher back!" they say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Kerry's speech was very poignant. I couldn't see anything because I was listening on the internet, but did he get choked up at one point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Kerry's speech was very poignant. I couldn't see anything because I was listening on the internet, but did he get choked up at one point? Yes. It's funny: Democratic candidates always show their most personality in their concession speeches. what the hell is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Because it's the only time they don't have a direct feed to the Party Politburo, which makes them act like wooden automatons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 3, 2004 And Mark Halperin, he of the infamous ABC memo, has just referred to Bush as being a lame duck President who needs to govern from the center. Funny, I don't remember hearing that about Clinton THE DAY AFTER HE WON THE 1996 ELECTION. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 And Mark Halperin, he of the infamous ABC memo, has just referred to Bush as being a lame duck President who needs to govern from the center. Funny, I don't remember hearing that about Clinton THE DAY AFTER HE WON THE 1996 ELECTION. -=Mike Did Clinton bring out record numbers like this? Almost everyone voted who ever would this time, and while we didn't actually win, we proved that no matter how large the group is that supports Bush, there's an (almost) equally large group that seriously hates him like the devil. For everyone's sakes, he would do better becoming more of a centerist to help Rudy or McCain in 08. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 3, 2004 And Mark Halperin, he of the infamous ABC memo, has just referred to Bush as being a lame duck President who needs to govern from the center. Funny, I don't remember hearing that about Clinton THE DAY AFTER HE WON THE 1996 ELECTION. -=Mike Did Clinton bring out record numbers like this? Almost everyone voted who ever would this time, and while we didn't actually win, we proved that no matter how large the group is that supports Bush, there's an (almost) equally large group that seriously hates him like the devil. For everyone's sakes, he would do better becoming more of a centerist to help Rudy or McCain in 08. Clinton never got a majority. Ever. Bush has. Bush has increased the GOP in the House and Senate. Clinton didn't. You had your massive turnout --- and Bush handed the Dems their collective ass. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Clinton never got a majority. Ever. Bush has. Bush has increased the GOP in the House and Senate. Clinton didn't. You had your massive turnout --- and Bush handed the Dems their collective ass. -=Mike Which doesn't mean that there's still 40+% that DIDN'T go to him. And that's not just a regular election where the average Joe stays at home and only the party faithfuls vote, that was after a huge GOTV effort by both sides. Go ahead and gloat since you won, but could you please stop taking potshots at Clinton? He may not have ever gotten a majority vote but he certainly kicked ass in that all-important electoral college that just until yesterday was supposedly the most important institution of our democracy that should never be touched as it ensures fairness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Clinton never got a majority. Ever. Bush has. Bush has increased the GOP in the House and Senate. Clinton didn't. You had your massive turnout --- and Bush handed the Dems their collective ass. -=Mike Which doesn't mean that there's still 40+% that DIDN'T go to him. Tough shit. 57% voted against Clinton in 1992. He certainly still tried to go for health care reform et al --- and NOBODY criticized HIM for doing so. And that's not just a regular election where the average Joe stays at home and only the party faithfuls vote, that was after a huge GOTV effort by both sides. And the GOP did what the Dems thought impossible (but I KNEW they'd pull off) --- they GOTV better. MUCH better. Go ahead and gloat since you won, but could you please stop taking potshots at Clinton? Nope. If you're going to bitch about Bush, I have no problems mentioning the double standard in regards to Clinton. He may not have ever gotten a majority vote but he certainly kicked ass in that all-important electoral college that just until yesterday was supposedly the most important institution of our democracy that should never be touched as it ensures fairness. The EC is important. Extremely so. And, thankfully, Bush won. But I thought that the PV gave you a mandate --- and in both of his elections, most people voted against Clinton. Bush got the majority on his side. He has a CLEAR mandate. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 It was pretty significant and I'm still pretty surly as a result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Nope. If you're going to bitch about Bush, I have no problems mentioning the double standard in regards to Clinton. Fine. I just hope you'll play it fair (and balanced lol) and criticize Bush more oftens for the mistakes that even you know he makes but you previously ignored. You don't have to worry about his election chances, he has nowhere else up to go from here, so hopefully you'll give his less Republican-leaning decisions the thrashing they deserve. It should be a sight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 The country is still split. We are in the same boat as we have been for the last couple of years, only difference is now, the country has to deal with it for another four years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Hey Jobber, I guess on the bright side........ Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.........right....RIGHT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2004 And Mark Halperin, he of the infamous ABC memo, has just referred to Bush as being a lame duck President who needs to govern from the center. HA. First he was President-Select, now he's a lame-duck. Goodie... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites