strummer 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2004 Heard today that Billy Murray refused to be in the Charlie's Angels sequel if Lucy Liu was in the movie. The two reportedly couldn't stand each other on the set of the first movie and were constantly bickering. Does anyone know the story behind this? I thought he couldn't get along with any of the girls, but I guess it was just Liu. Anyone know the story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2004 In all likelihood it was Murray who was the antagonist here. The guy is notoriously difficult to work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edotherocket 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2004 I heard on the set of The Score, Marlon Brando hated director Frank Oz and would only refer to him as Miss Piggy. I also read that he was conscious of his weight so he would show up to work completely naked from the waist down so he could only have close ups and a body double had to be used for long shots. Can anyone verify these stories? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted November 11, 2004 well I know the second one is true cause I've seen that movie. so were they fighting like Matrix Kung Fu or like whining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I heard on the set of The Score, Marlon Brando hated director Frank Oz and would only refer to him as Miss Piggy. I also read that he was conscious of his weight so he would show up to work completely naked from the waist down so he could only have close ups and a body double had to be used for long shots. Can anyone verify these stories? I heard that the reason why they didn't get along was Oz hired Brando to play a gay character, so Brando showed up at the set wearing makeup and using a heavy lisp. Oz asked him to tone it down a bit and that's what led to Brando hating Oz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 The two reportedly couldn't stand each other on the set of the first movie and were constantly bickering. Does anyone know the story behind this? I heard about this, too. I also heard Bill is hard to work with -- him and Harold Ramis had a falling out doing Ghostbuster movies, or so I heard, too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I know DeNiro had to direct Brando's scenes in The Score with Oz giving DeNiro directions from off-set. Everything I've heard about Liu has been quite positive, so I have no doubt Murray was the big problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiny norman 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 The two reportedly couldn't stand each other on the set of the first movie and were constantly bickering. Does anyone know the story behind this? I heard about this, too. I also heard Bill is hard to work with -- him and Harold Ramis had a falling out doing Ghostbuster movies, or so I heard, too... But Ramis directed Groundhog Day, which came out after both Ghostbusters flicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 Brando showed up at the set wearing makeup and using a heavy lisp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 But Ramis directed Groundhog Day, which came out after both Ghostbusters flicks. Then did they have a falling out?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest M. Harry Smilac Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I actually heard that Murray said that CA was one of the hardest jobs he ever had for the least satisfying payoff in terms of the movie's quality.He wanted to do something more rewarding so he did Lost in Translation instead which of course turned out to be a much better choice. I've never heard about him being hard to work with. One person I have heard about though is Val Kilmer which made me understand why he never really broke out as a star. I can't remember the exact quote but John Frankenheimer said something along the lines of two things he never wanted to do in life again and one of them was something insanely horrible and the other was work with Val Kilmer ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I know DeNiro had to direct Brando's scenes in The Score with Oz giving DeNiro directions from off-set. Interesting, since in the director's commentary Oz says that DeNiro and Brando "improvised" their dialogue during their scenes together. Oz actually doesn't say anything bad about Brando throughout the whole thing. I've heard that Brando was difficult to work with regardless. I actually heard that Murray said that CA was one of the hardest jobs he ever had for the least satisfying payoff in terms of the movie's quality.He wanted to do something more rewarding so he did Lost in Translation instead which of course turned out to be a much better choice. I'd like to hear the rationale for Garfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I actually heard that Murray said that CA was one of the hardest jobs he ever had for the least satisfying payoff in terms of the movie's quality.He wanted to do something more rewarding so he did Lost in Translation instead which of course turned out to be a much better choice. I'd like to hear the rationale for Garfield. He is a fan of Garfield and Jim Davis personally selected him. And Garfield wasn't a bad movie, it was like a movie version of the cartoon. Just wasn't good if you are above the age of 11 or not a fan. As for CA, Lucy and Bill have already both come out and said those rumors were false. Murray just wanted to move on and had already committed to other projects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I've heard that Brando was difficult to work with regardless. The fact that he never memorized his lines might be difficult for people to work with him. I know he did it because he thought that it was better for his acting, but it must have been a tad bit annoying for the director. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I actually heard that Murray said that CA was one of the hardest jobs he ever had for the least satisfying payoff in terms of the movie's quality.He wanted to do something more rewarding so he did Lost in Translation instead which of course turned out to be a much better choice. I'd like to hear the rationale for Garfield. He is a fan of Garfield and Jim Davis personally selected him. And Garfield wasn't a bad movie, it was like a movie version of the cartoon. Just wasn't good if you are above the age of 11 or not a fan. That movie was slightly more Garfield than Catwoman was Catwoman. If you are a fan of the strip back when it was good and before it turned to crap, you probably hated the movie. Murray was the sole bright spot, and even then his material was kind of weak. Hell, the "cartoon" that was based on the strip blows the movie away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2004 I didn't think it was wonderful, but it was cute enough and didn't completely kill and ruin Garfield. At least it wasn't "Scooby Doo" for god sake. Now THAT is a blueprint for screwing things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Evolution Report post Posted November 13, 2004 If you are a fan of the strip back when it was good and before it turned to crap, you probably hated the movie. Murray was the sole bright spot, and even then his material was kind of weak. I felt that casting Breckin "Inside Schwartz" Meyer as Jon was the kiss of death. JLH as Liz was pretty loopy too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Its too bad about the whole CA thing. I felt Murray played Bosley perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest M. Harry Smilac Report post Posted November 13, 2004 I know I actually heard that Murray said that CA was one of the hardest jobs he ever had for the least satisfying payoff in terms of the movie's quality.He wanted to do something more rewarding so he did Lost in Translation instead which of course turned out to be a much better choice. I'd like to hear the rationale for Garfield. Well just doing the voice for a movie isn't really a whole lot of work like he claimed CA was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 At least it wasn't "Scooby Doo" for god sake. Now THAT is a blueprint for screwing things up. ...how so? The movie was cheesy, dumb, and cliché...just like the series was. Plus, Matthew Lillard's peformance of Shaggy was phenomenal, and I remember hearing from him in an interview that, when he was just breaking into acting, his friends used to tell him that if there was ever a role he was made for, it was Shaggy. Only downside to Lillard's acting in it was that he couldn't do his awesome pissed off rants that appear in pretty much all of his other movies. As for Murray, I heard the reason he and Ramis had a falling out was because Bill never wanted to be in Ghostbusters II, or even make it, but Ramis and Aykroyd wanted to do it because they loved the idea too much. Murray doesn't want to be in any sequels, I think, because he doesn't want to get typecasted in one role (though, if you think about it, he's already typecasted as the wise-ass schmuck from his early movies). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 One person I have heard about though is Val Kilmer which made me understand why he never really broke out as a star. I can't remember the exact quote but John Frankenheimer said something along the lines of two things he never wanted to do in life again and one of them was something insanely horrible and the other was work with Val Kilmer ever again. Yeah I heard Val Kilmer was hard to work with to. In fact him and Joel Shumacuer (sp?) had falling outs on the set of Batman Forever which is why he didn't return to play Batman again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 One person I have heard about though is Val Kilmer which made me understand why he never really broke out as a star. I can't remember the exact quote but John Frankenheimer said something along the lines of two things he never wanted to do in life again and one of them was something insanely horrible and the other was work with Val Kilmer ever again. Yeah I heard Val Kilmer was hard to work with to. In fact him and Joel Shumacuer (sp?) had falling outs on the set of Batman Forever which is why he didn't return to play Batman again. Sadly, that may have been a blessing in disguise for Val, since we know what came after Batman Forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 One person I have heard about though is Val Kilmer which made me understand why he never really broke out as a star. I can't remember the exact quote but John Frankenheimer said something along the lines of two things he never wanted to do in life again and one of them was something insanely horrible and the other was work with Val Kilmer ever again. Yeah I heard Val Kilmer was hard to work with to. In fact him and Joel Shumacuer (sp?) had falling outs on the set of Batman Forever which is why he didn't return to play Batman again. Val seems to have a bit of a history for this kind of thing. Didn't he have the Richard Stanley, the original director, of The Island of Dr. Moreau fired after one day? I know that the replacement director, John Frankenheimer, got so pissed off by Val he said he would never work with him again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimm44 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Why is this being reported now? Both movies are already released on DVD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Why is this being reported now? Both movies are already released on DVD This isn't just being reported now. It was brought up in a report before the filming even started. The question is why are we discussing it now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
