Guest Markingout Report post Posted December 1, 2004 EDIT: not done yet. Sabu has been breaking K5 since 2000, specially' at MLW. But still it's cool to see him talk about all these topics because he has been in some cool stints, and it's nice to hear what he has to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mister foozel 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 NOTHING is worth our Lord's name in vain bitch.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 bitch.. That kinda killed your whole point, dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Just remember...every tape you buy from Feinstein is more gas money he gets to go to different homes and fuck little children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 DOI has indicated that Sabu won't be shooting with SMV, Highspots, or anyone else, and that he has made the RF Video shoot his one and one shoot he'll ever do. Also, RF Video will be doing more stuff with Sabu in the future. Just remember...every tape you buy from Feinstein is more gas money he gets to go to different homes and fuck little children. I don't think he'd try to fuck any more little boys after the response the Internet gave him with the initial incident... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 2, 2004 I don't think he'd try to fuck any more little boys after the response the Internet gave him with the initial incident... Because you know, he really gives a shit of what other people think..........especially the internet. He was pissed more about losing money than what everyone thought of him...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Well, if public opinion is going to determine his business, and public opinion is based on how he conducts himself after this incident, I have trouble seeing him doing it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Well, if public opinion is going to determine his business, and public opinion is based on how he conducts himself after this incident, I have trouble seeing him doing it again. RF has been a notorious asshole for years, I think he'll just try harder to NOT get caught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Well, if public opinion is going to determine his business, and public opinion is based on how he conducts himself after this incident, I have trouble seeing him doing it again. RF has been a notorious asshole for years So has Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff, and practically every other person involved in the wrestling industry. Let's face it - pro wrestling is a morally corruptive industry...there's not much way to avoid it if you wanna survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Giant Baba wasn't an asshole, and he did pretty well while he was alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Giant Baba wasn't an asshole, and he did pretty well while he was alive. Yeah, but according to a lot of people, he married a grade A asshole in his wife. You win some, you lose some, but you're always gonna make mistakes in a business like this...coming out as a different person than you started is inevitable with pro wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Well, if public opinion is going to determine his business, and public opinion is based on how he conducts himself after this incident, I have trouble seeing him doing it again. RF has been a notorious asshole for years So has Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff, and practically every other person involved in the wrestling industry. Let's face it - pro wrestling is a morally corruptive industry...there's not much way to avoid it if you wanna survive. Yeah, I guess you gotta be a prick to run a promotion well...but man-child love? That's a whole different level of asshole. And for as smalltime as the guy was he was a stuck up dickhead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Well, if public opinion is going to determine his business, and public opinion is based on how he conducts himself after this incident, I have trouble seeing him doing it again. RF has been a notorious asshole for years So has Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff, and practically every other person involved in the wrestling industry. Let's face it - pro wrestling is a morally corruptive industry...there's not much way to avoid it if you wanna survive. Keep in mind that Heyman/Bishoff etc never tried to solicit a teenage boy for sex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Well, if public opinion is going to determine his business, and public opinion is based on how he conducts himself after this incident, I have trouble seeing him doing it again. RF has been a notorious asshole for years So has Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff, and practically every other person involved in the wrestling industry. Let's face it - pro wrestling is a morally corruptive industry...there's not much way to avoid it if you wanna survive. Keep in mind that Heyman/Bishoff etc never tried to solicit a teenage boy for sex. Heyman tried to get New Jack in trouble for raping the daughter of an athletic commissioner who just so happened to not have any children. Heyman tried to cover up the Mass Transit incident and dealings with Extreme Associates. He violated the contracts of 80+% of his wrestlers by not paying them their salaries. And I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of dirt on Bischoff if you just try. Wasn't he (along with Kevin Nash) one of those implicated in a prostitution ring, but escaped the charges somehow? Face the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Heyman's worst crime was bouncing checks. Bischoff's Worst crime was having severe involvement in scandal involving a adult club with his wife and swapping his wife with wrestlers in exchange for a push. RF tried to engage in sexual conduct with a teenaged boy. big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Bischoff's Worst crime was having severe involvement in scandal involving a adult club with his wife and swapping his wife with wrestlers in exchange for a push. RF tried to engage in sexual conduct with a teenaged boy. big difference. Not really. Heyman's worst crime was bouncing checks. No, it wasn't. He tried to prevent Sabu from ever being able to wrestle again by pulling some absurd contract bullshit. Had XPW not supplied Sabu with thousands of dollars, Sabu wouldn't have been able to wrestle again for God knows how long. Along with the many other things I mentioned above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Wife Swapping isn't even Illegal. Coercing underaged kids for sexual favors? THAT Is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Lucharesu, seriously bro.....quit sticking up for him. Also, YES......what RF did was still worse than what the others did....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 My first thought was...people actually give a shit about Sabu? I thought the thread title was supposed to be ironic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Yeah, I guess you gotta be a prick to run a promotion well...but man-child love? That's a whole different level of asshole. no pun intended, right? My first thought was...people actually give a shit about Sabu? yeah, believe it or not. go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 When did this become a Paul E thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 When did this become a Paul E thread? A who-what? Considering that Sabu has never done a video interview and his ENTIRE gimmick is and HAS BEEN based around not talking for 20 YEARS, I think the thread title is quite appropriate... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Maybe...but RF's owner is still a sick boy-loving fuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Lucharesu, I usually will agree with what you say, but it's pretty obvious that your young age is impacting your views on the RF situation. One day you'll realize that there is a HUGE fucking difference between bouncing checks, trying to prevent others from wrestling, rape accusations, etc. and SOLICITING SEX BETWEEN A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD BOY. And one day you'll get some ethics too. Let's say I, for example, owned a grocery store in your town. It's the only grocery store in the town, and you need to travel twenty minutes extra to get the second store. I punch your mother in the face, probably WANT to punch your mother in the face a second time, but I'm on 24/7 police monitoring because of it. Obviously, I won't be punching your mother in the face again soon. However, knowing that I'd still like to punch your mother in the face, would you support me by buying groceries at my store, or travel the extra twenty minutes (the equivalent of waiting a couple weeks and buying a copy) to go to the second store. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Why isn't there a "mellow" emoticon when I need one? I don't mean to defend RF. The point I'm trying to make is that while he's worse than just about every other wrestling promoter, he's in a group of people that are - in and of themself - corrupt. I think he's a scumbag for going after what he thought was a little boy. While what Heyman and Bischoff have done isn't technically illegal, I believe it to be very immoral...not as much as the RF scandal, but no more than a level or two below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted December 3, 2004 so basically, we shouldn't buy this interview because an accused child-molester owns the company thats producing it? that's your argument, right? you'll notice i used the word "accused", as opposed to "convicted". cause unless i missed a memo, Feinstein hasn't been dragged to court, hasn't been put on trial, and a verdict has not been rendered. basically the only evidence anyone has is a video of him showing up at someone's house and being chased to his car (doesn't look good, i'll admit), and a chat transcript that, lets' face it, could quite easily have been altered. now, did Feinstein actually have sex with a minor? no evidence suggests that he did, at least in this instance. regardless of his intentions for walking up to that front door, that's basically all he did. has Feinstein EVER had sex with a minor? i don't know, but until i actually see evidence to support that, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. and the funny thing is, all of this has little to do with the subject of this thread: Sabu doing a shoot interview, which was all Lucharesu was pointing out. the fact Sabu was breaking character for the first time in a 20 year career and speaking out on camera seems the sole reason Lucharesu was plugging this. now, if you don't care about Sabu or anyting he has to say, fine. if your morally offended by the idea of giving money to an accused child-molester, again, fine. but christ, don't give Lucharesu shit just because he's excited by the prospect of this interview and thought we might like to know about it. that's all i'm trying to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Indeed. I appreciate the backing up. The reason I wrote Jesus Christ wasn't because I was surprised it was RF Video doing the shoot. It was the fact that SABU was doing a shoot. That's why I CAPITALIZED Sabu and NOT RF Video. RF Video does tons of shoots with big names; it's not a surprise they got a name as big as Sabu...it's a surprise that Sabu is willing to do a shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Indeed. I appreciate the backing up. The reason I wrote Jesus Christ wasn't because I was surprised it was RF Video doing the shoot. It was the fact that SABU was doing a shoot. That's why I CAPITALIZED Sabu and NOT RF Video. RF Video does tons of shoots with big names; it's not a surprise they got a name as big as Sabu...it's a surprise that Sabu is willing to do a shoot. That's fine, I never once jumped on your shit because of the interview like some here did do. Personally, being a fan of Sabu during his ECW days I surely would be interested in seeing the interview as well. It's just shocking to me that people would actually still support RF......other than that.....I think this shoot sounds really cool. Plus, I usually like the stuff that Lucharesu posts and I didn't once attack him personally in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 And one day you'll get some ethics too. Let's say I, for example, owned a grocery store in your town. It's the only grocery store in the town, and you need to travel twenty minutes extra to get the second store. I punch your mother in the face, probably WANT to punch your mother in the face a second time, but I'm on 24/7 police monitoring because of it. Obviously, I won't be punching your mother in the face again soon. Grocer outta control! LOL I'LL PRETEND YOU SAID PLASTIC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 wee waas sasa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites