Guest TheLastBoyscout Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 I cannot hate JBL. His promos are top notch, his look is great, his size makes him a believable ass-kicker, and even though he doesn't draw... NO ONE does right now. His workrate is good enough to be consistantly good depending on his opponant. WHY am I supposed to hate him again?
RavishingRickRudo Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Because soon enough hating on JBL will not be fashionable anymore and liking JBL will be, so be ahead of the curve and start hating him NOW so when that turn comes you can be against the grain again.
Guest Korgath Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 I cannot hate JBL. His promos are top notch, his look is great, his size makes him a believable ass-kicker, and even though he doesn't draw... NO ONE does right now. His workrate is good enough to be consistantly good depending on his opponant. You mean... Vinny Mac actually made a good call by naming him Champ?
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 "Because he's not short and/or canadian." -iwc.
Guest uyaljg Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 There is no reason to hate him, on screen. Although you could hate his off screen anal-raping of jerks/new guys.
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 right; because JBL is the only guy to do this. "Rape" (i.e hazing) has been a custom in the business way back in the days of Thesz.
slimm44 Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 I'm with you all the way, sure I boo him just because he's a bad guy, but I enjoy this gimmick more than the APA gimmick. Once he changed hairstyles (and color) he lost his bad ass image. But now he is great. I'm gladthey are giving him a long title reign because he has really built his Upper-class type look.
Guest TheLastBoyscout Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Oh and the match with Angle this week was top-notch, and proves that JBL is a great heel. He could have a match with HHH, and HHH would be the one to get the cheers.
RavishingRickRudo Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Thesz was infamously known as the Sodomizing Shooter back in the day. "Lou the Screw" was also a popular reference, all the way up to his 70's.
Guest uyaljg Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 right; because JBL is the only guy to do this. "Rape" (i.e hazing) has been a custom in the business way back in the days of Thesz. Yeah, I love the raping. It gets me hot.
Kahran Ramsus Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Oh and the match with Angle this week was top-notch, and proves that JBL is a great heel. He could have a match with HHH, and HHH would be the one to get the cheers. HHH gets cheers over a lot of people. Hell, he might be getting cheered over Orton at Mania.
RavishingRickRudo Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Yeah, but HHH is the biggest face on RAW. Wait... what? He's a heel? JBL needs a ridiculously big entourage. Like, they need 5 more people on the squad. He needs a P-Diddy-esque man servant. He needs his own personal chef. He needs a financial consultant on the European and Asian/Foreign markets. He needs a personal photographer. And he needs his own historian. Man Servant = Julian Deroche (French, cause JBL hates the French, so he enjoys having a french person at his beck-and-call) Personal Chef = "Michelangelo", the world-famous Italian chef who is keeping JBL on a healthy diet, to make sure the champ eats right. Financial Consultant on Foreign Markets = Alistair D. Livingsworth III, a British, Tony-Blair-esque figure in JBL's cabinet. He notifies the champ when the market is right. Personal Photographer = Emileo Frankish, a homosexual photographer, to prove JBL is an equal opportunity employer. Plus, no one makes JBL look more beautiful. Historian = Peter Jacobs, a lanky 12 year old nerd who documents JBL's title run and daily activites in his parents basement over the internet.
Prophet of Mike Zagurski Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 He was tag team wrestler his entire career and then he gets a major singles push.
haVoc Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 I been a fan of the JBL character from the start. I always thought it would be a good mid/upper card character. Kind of like Carlito at the moment. Never thought JBL should be in the main event spot. But, damn, I've eatin' some crow.
Guest TheLastBoyscout Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 He was tag team wrestler his entire career and then he gets a major singles push. So was Bret Hart.
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 He was tag team wrestler his entire career and then he gets a major singles push. So was Bret Hart. So was Shawn & Edge. Also you can put Shelton on the list with Bret, Shawn, Edge pretty soon. Farooq, Haas and Christian Neidharted/Jannettyed their careers.
Tawren Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Farooq, Haas and Christian Neidharted/Jannettyed their careers. That's an incredibly asinine thing to say. Faarooq retired, and then JBL moved up the card. Christian and Haas are still on the shows, with Christian in the upper midcard and Haas being in one of the bigger angles on Smackdown.
Lil' Bitch Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Bradshaw didn't deserve to be WWE Champion at the time he got it. He'll be best remember for being a tag team jobber who was pushed faster to getting the title than Brock Lesnar. And this is a guy who had several horrible gimmicks and had been pushed before as a singles guy that failed miserably. I can see why some of you may like his gimmick, but it takes more than image and mic skills to be a great champion. If anything, he's being treated worse than Chris Jericho because as far as I know, the only person he's pinned on TV (correct me if I'm wrong) since he's been champ for the past 5 and a half months was Booker T. The sad part is many of you are probably only praising Bradshaw now just because he's been champ for so long and have been brainwashed by WWE into liking him since he's been getting so much focus. But then again, many of us despise HHH so its a case of pick your poison. Go for HHH because he's obviously the better man or go for JBL because he's something new, a breath of fresh air so to speak. He was tag team wrestler his entire career and then he gets a major singles push. So was Bret Hart. Difference is Bret Hart won the Intercontinental Title and had a great run with it for almost a year before he moved into the world title and he, you know, put on good / great matches. Bradshaw becomes WWE Champion three months after losing a Fatal 4 Way match for the tag titles at WM XX, what does that tell you?
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 Farooq, Haas and Christian Neidharted/Jannettyed their careers. That's an incredibly asinine thing to say. Faarooq retired, and then JBL moved up the card. Christian and Haas are still on the shows, with Christian in the upper midcard and Haas being in one of the bigger angles on Smackdown. Yes Farrooq retired. I'll conceed that he didn't Jannetty or Neidhart his career. but the real Neidharted/Janettyed comment meant They became less successful then their partners who went onto larger success Jannetty floundered around for about 2-3 years being used majorily in 1993 for the most part and then wasn't used much. Kinda like Christian in 2003 and then he disappered to the low mid card/tag team. Haas is in the same pattern as Christian and Jannetty where he got a decent singles push initally and is back in tag team mode.
BorneAgain Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 If anything, he's being treated worse than Chris Jericho because as far as I know, the only person he's pinned on TV (correct me if I'm wrong) since he's been champ for the past 5 and a half months was Booker T. Who I believe, unless I'm mistaken is the only man to pin Bradshaw since he's been champion, so that could negate his pin on Booker if you choose to look at it that way.
UZI Suicide Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 He was tag team wrestler his entire career and then he gets a major singles push. So was Bret Hart. So was Shawn & Edge. Also you can put Shelton on the list with Bret, Shawn, Edge pretty soon. Farooq, Haas and Christian Neidharted/Jannettyed their careers. The difference is those were all young guys who were hyped up as being such great wrestlers all the time by announcers. You knew one day they would go off and have singles success. Bradshaw is pretty much a lifetime tag team wrestler except for a couple of crappy singles runs sprinkled here and there.
The Mandarin Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 There's no reason to hate Bradshaw, because you shouldn't be watching his matches (if you are of sound mind). His promos are great and his antics are goofy, so it translates well to Velocity/Experience highlights (all of the promo, ten percent of the match).
Guest uyaljg Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 JBL had a great singles run before, as European champion.
UZI Suicide Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 JBL had a great singles run before, as European champion. Are you talking about when he was on RAW with the long hair, and changed to the Cowboy boots and short black tights, and fought the nWo for a while with Austin? That was shit.
Lil' Bitch Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 JBL had a great singles run before, as European champion which lasted 8 days.
Guest uyaljg Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 JBL had a great singles run before, as European champion which lasted 8 days. Eight days of singles GOLD.
alfdogg Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 I think he was being sarcastic, you guys.
Taker666 Posted December 20, 2004 Report Posted December 20, 2004 You know what, I've been somewhat of a fan of his sence the start. Every promo he cuts, his reactions, his new Cabinet Faction, his charater has all been 100% gold. And I've actually enjoyed some of his PPV matches with Eddie, Taker, Booker and recently angle. I think hes a much better wrestler than people would like to admit. Some people just forget that not everyone could be a clone of Benoit, Jericho or London. I think the WWE struck a gold mine with the JBL charater and made it work. hes actually one of guys I look forward in seeing on SmackDown!. I love the JBL Charater and hes actually been a better Champion than some give him credit for. And about the whole argument of "Being pushed to fast", "he came out of a jobber tag team just months ago" and "there are more deserving Champions", I don't give a shit, it happened and the end results has been great.
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