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Ouch. That's not good. I mean it's not terrible or anything, but yeah 2 of the regular shows airing at 11:05 did better numbers. The buzz was that they were aiming for a 2.5 which would get them a regular spot on Spike, and were even hoping to do a 3.0. Of course Saturday night is a horrible slot for attracting the demographic they want, so hopefully that's taken into consideration...

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I think Rogan was the only one buying that argument that this Shamrock was better than the 94 Shamrock.

 

Watched the fight again. And I still had Bonnar winning rounds 2 and 3. Still an amazing fight though.

Guest Brian
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I don't think it's that disappointing a rating. I'm interested in what the replays do, since they are in better slots during the week.

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Sanford at least looks trimmer than on the show. Maybe if he had come in in that shape they would not have booted him before fighting.

 

I think it is silly if anyone was expecting the finale to do boffo ratings. It has been hovering around the 1.9 area and this didn't have the type of water cooler hype that is going to lead to a finale spike. Combine that with losing the Raw lead in and being on a Saturday night and I don't think it is terrible that they maintained the status quo.

 

I too, would like to see the replay ratings as I know of two other people who saw the show and both saw it on the Sunday replay.

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What was it's lead-in? And when do we see quarter-hour breakdowns?

 

Here's an article on the rating via Sherdog:

 

2.6 Million Tuned In To See Dramatic Conclusion Tuesday, April 12, 2005

by Press Release

 

New York, NY, April 12, 2005 -- The LIVE finale of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter drew 2.6 million viewers on Saturday, April 9 (9:00-11:30pm ET/PT), making it the most watched fight in UFC history. The 2 ½ hour climax to the highly-rated Spike TV reality series, The Ultimate Fighter tallied a 1.9 household rating (1,726,000).

 

"These record-breaking numbers illustrate that UFC and the sport of mixed martial arts fighting is on the rise," says Doug Herzog, President, Spike TV "It is also a true testament to the incredible dedicated and fearless athletes on The Ultimate Fighter."

 

"Spike TV served as the perfect network to position UFC as the sport of the future," states Dana White, President, UFC.

 

Other ratings highlights include the following:

 

Triple digit gains in key male demos and viewership -- 3.3/848,000 Men 18-34 up +562; 2.7/1,409,000 Men 18-49 up +477; and 2.6 million viewers up +229% (all versus year ago - Spike TV aired MXC, WWE Velocity, and WWE Confidential)

 

Most watched show for Men 18-34 on television including the broadcast networks - 3.3 (848,000).

 

Second most-watched original series in network history (finale of The Joe Schmo Show --3.4 million viewers)

 

Most watched Saturday in Spike TV history - 938,000 average audience (9:00am-3:00am)

 

In Total Day (which included a 12-hour The Ultimate Fighter marathon), Spike TV was #1 with Men 18-34 (1.2/ 304,000) and Men 18-49 (1.0/497,000) in all of basic cable.

 

The record-breaking fight night from the Cox Pavilion in Las Vegas featured a dramatic three-round war for The Ultimate Fighter light heavyweight crown between Stephan Bonnar and Forrest Griffin, described by announcer Joe Rogan as the 'one of the greatest fights in UFC history.' In the middleweight Ultimate Fighter title bout, Diego Sanchez knocked out Kenny Florian in the first round. "The World's Most Dangerous Man," Ken Shamrock lost to rising star Rich Franklin to a first round knockout in the final bout of the evening.

 

Spike TV, the first network for men, is available in 87 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. MTV Networks, a division of Viacom International Inc.

Guest Brian
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It's lead in was the TUF marathon.

12 hours of the show that was drawing about a third of the level as the show? It doesn't compare to having RAW, which also could attract some crossover.

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Blue brought up a good point in the fact that for all the hype on Quarry, he's still raw (not a good thing to be at 34), and hasn't faced the best level of competition as he should with as little time as he likely has.

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Blue brought up a good point in the fact that for all the hype on Quarry, he's still raw (not a good thing to be at 34), and hasn't faced the best level of competition as he should with as little time as he likely has.

He's Couture's buddy so he's got the political in and that's what matters most.

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Blue brought up a good point in the fact that for all the hype on Quarry, he's still raw (not a good thing to be at 34), and hasn't faced the best level of competition as he should with as little time as he likely has.

He's Couture's buddy so he's got the political in and that's what matters most.

No doubt he'll get in, but I honestly wouldn't be suprised by a Tiki-esque situation, with Quarry's connections & impressive wins outside the UFC keeping him in, yet never actually accomplishing at the top level.

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12 hours of the show that was drawing about a third of the level as the show? It doesn't compare to having RAW, which also could attract some crossover.

But Dana White said that it's not the same audience, so it must not have any relation. Right?

 

This shows how much the show was helped by WWE's lead in. Not saying 1.9 is a horrible number for a Saturday night, but it is a very bad number for a finale of a reality show that had bigger ratings during the course of its run (almost all reality shows have their peak ratings during their finales). The statistics backed up how much of a correlation there was between the two audiences, but this shows it again.

 

The fight with Bonnar and Griffin, though, was off the charts. Probably through word of mouth the replays will have pretty good ratings, at least for that 30 minute segment.

 

Jason

Guest Brian
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I don't believe 1.9 is horrible, but it wasn't the greatest of ideas to do things the way they did. Different night, Saturday of all nights, two-and-a-half hours, and not a good lead-in. I mean, couldn't they have done the same show on like Tuesday in prime-time? It would have given them more time to advertise, been closer to the regular day, came on during a better part of the week, and still would have been in primetime. And

Tuesday competition is not so great is it?

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Basically, Dana prefers putting the UFC name itself over everything else, which seems to be an excuse for him to fire anyone on a whim and more or less generally act like a jackass 85% of the time.

 

"If the fans want to see all the fights, they should buy tickets to the show."

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Dammit, I was wanting a 2.5!

 

Got greedy.

 

Realistically, the 1.9 is a fantastic number, and to have the most amount of men ages 18-35 watching on a Saturday night IN ALL OF TELEVISION is probably something that has Spike smiling, considering that's their target demo. The WWE never came close to drawing a 1.9 on any of their shows on Saturday night, and the UFC didn't have the RAW lead-in, which really say something for the show being able to stand-alone on its own. It could have potentially done worse if it was a case of WWE fans sticking around after RAW, but it wasn't. It was UFC fans watching a UFC show. That's a good sign. Considering that the largest total audience for a live UFC show before this was under 200,000 and this show did TEN TIMES that, disappointment or not, that's still fucking impressive. If they retain even a small % of that audience for their PPV's, that's going to really have a big effect on their PPV revenues. Think about this: if they retain just 5% of the audience - 1 in 20 people who watched TUF will get the PPV - that's 100,000 extra buys, which would put them well over 200,000. If they do 250,000 for the next show or higher, then you can call the 1.9 a huge success. The real test is whether the PPV will get the buys.

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