Giving thanks because of MLK

[NYU 0]

You don't think it's stretching it a little for Malcolm X to say that the high crime rate in African American communites can be attributed to blacks following the Westernized policies of white people?

[Ripper 0]

You don't think it's stretching it a little for Malcolm X to say that the high crime rate in African American communites can be attributed to blacks following the Westernized policies of white people?

No, not at all. Not at the time.

 

The polices at the time were holding blacks at or below the poverty level and violence and high crime rate go hand and hand with that.

 

So no, it wasn't a stretch at all.

[NYU 0]

So are people then ever responsible for their own actions?

 

At best, you're finding an indirect connection between white policies and the rising of African-American crime rate.

[Ripper 0]

So are people then ever responsible for their own actions?

 

At best, you're finding an indirect connection between white policies and the rising of African-American crime rate.

of course people are responsible for their actions, but lets not pretend that contributing factors aren't a major part of it.

 

Every group of people that entered this country impoverished went through a period where they lived amongst major violence in their community. Unlike some of the other groups, this poverty was forced upon blacks by policies that made it difficult and many times impossible to escape. The connection between poverty and violence isn't something that has been recently discovered and is something that had to have been expected, so yes, when a group enacts policies that knowingly perpetuates poverty to a community, this group is very responsible for the violence in that community.

[MrRant 0]

*coughtheIrishcough*

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

It's kind of hard to be law abiding citizens when the law doesn't protect your best interests for the most part.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Also, as pointed out before, he didn't want to work with whites not because he wanted to completely seperate from them, but he wanted the black community to get back on their feet on their own. Isn't that what you arguing anyway, about the fact that they shouldn't blame others for their problems?

 

Like I said, he wasn't against harmony, he wanted black people to do it themselves to show that he could. This is really different from what segregation was used as before. Also, you can't just dismiss what happened in the last year of his life, because if he wasn't murdered for his change, then that philosophy he now had would have been a part of his life a lot longer. You're assuming that because he held that philosophy for a short time when compared to what he felt before, that this means it doesn't really have an impact. But the fact that he died because of it shows that he must have felt strong about it.

 

He didn't promote violence, he promoted self-defence. Big difference.

 

EDIT: My sig doesn't stretch the page at all, and you're the first to feel that way, so I'm guessing it's something to do with your settings.

[Jingus 0]

It stretches the page somewhat for me too, Paragon.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

It stretches the page somewhat for me too, Paragon.

Alright, I will change it.

 

There.

[Jingus 0]

Thanks, the new one's much more entertaining anyway.

[Guest Smues]

Wow his head is like 5 times the size of George Bush's. MOORE IS FAT! LOL69 2005 !!

[EricMM 0]

I totally agree that whites put Blacks in a bad place for centuries, then sought to keep them there.

 

But let us not forget that it was whites who freed the slaves too. It wasn't blacks, it wasn't because of any resistance. It was because many, many white people saw slavery and racism in general as the affront to humanity that they are.

 

I can only speak for myself. But I am so glad for MLK for creating a world where I go to school, and eat with, and sit with, people with more skin pigment than I do. How people fifty years ago could ostracize people like that, I just don't understand. It's a total disconnect with me. What the fuck where they thinking? When almost everything about everyone that is human makes us practically the same, why focus on those insignifigant details that make us different?

[ant_7000 0]

Actually while I was in Atlanta a couple weeks ago, I got a chance to go the MLK center tour which was a cool experience. His boyhood home is huge it had like 6 rooms. As for X debate he was trying uplift blacks and teach them how to be self efficent and self defensive.