Mikey calls for student walkout on January 20th...

[Vyce 0]

I could have sworn that plotting or wishing for the death of the President was illegal.

I don't know the details of American law, but if another mod thinks this is out of line, then he's gone.

 

If anybody can show me proof that it is illegal, then he's gone.

It's only really illegal if he says anything about him plotting to kill the President like Unger did.

Ok. Fine by me. That's why I was asking for proof. The disadvantage of being a foreigner on an American board.

Seriously, though, technically illegal or not, him wishing death upon the President / V.P. really ought to be enough to give him a temporary vacation from the board, if only from this folder.

[bob_barron 0]

Well you're not supposed to wish death on people here anyway.

 

Especially when it's the president. Doing it on a public message board is rather stupid

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Well, THAT'S bullshit.

 

HOPING that someone dies isn't illegal at all, and banning FrigidMascot for that is the epitome of stupid. Teke, get the assortment of twigs out of your ass for a second and unban the poor idiot.

[Vern Gagne 0]

I await the kkk response to this thread....

Here's the Super Chill version.

 

Fatey Moore wouldn't walk out...he'd roll out of class.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Apparently hoping that the President of the US dies is illegal. Teke made the right decision.

[NYU 0]

He didn't WISH death upon the President.

 

He said he wouldn't be upset if Bush died.

 

Nowhere in this thread did Mascot say he was going to pick up a gun and do such a thing.

 

He just wouldn't cry a river if someone did.

 

Intelligent? I don't think so.

 

Banworthy? No.

[Highland 0]

Why should he be unbanned? FS commited a crime, pure and simple. He should be lucky he's not being investigated, which is exactly what would have happened had he written his post to the opinion page of the local paper.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

He didn't commit a crime, you fucking moron. Hoping that someone dies isn't a crime. Saying "I'M GOING TO KILL THE PRESIDENT", on the other hand, is.

 

You mods are terrible.

[Highland 0]

He didn't WISH death upon the President.

 

He said he wouldn't be upset if Bush died.

 

Nowhere in this thread did Mascot say he was going to pick up a gun and do such a thing.

 

He just wouldn't cry a river if someone did.

 

Intelligent? I don't think so.

 

Banworthy? No.

He said he hoped someone would take a sniper rifle to the Inauguration and pick off Bush and Cheney. Spin it all you want, that's a threat.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Nope, not a threat. Hope =/= threat. Threat would be saying he's going to take the prerogative and do it himself. That is not a threat.

[NYU 0]

a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(b) The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 19 and 20.

 

Where the fuck in here does it even say hoping is a threat?

[teke184 0]

There's dissent (polite or otherwise), which is acceptable, and there's advocating the death of someone.

 

 

Let's put the shoe on the other foot... If this was the Clinton years during the time when everyone and their brother was jumping the fence at the White House, would YOU think it was banworthy to talk about how glad someone would be if Slick Willy and Hillary got .45 caliber enemas?

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Let's put the shoe on the other foot... If this was the Clinton years during the time when everyone and their brother was jumping the fence at the White House, would YOU think it was banworthy to talk about how glad someone would be if Slick Willy and Hillary got .45 caliber enemas?

 

No.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Other posters have been banned under similar grounds with the whole hoping someone dies thing.

[Styles 0]

I fully support the banning. I froze when I read what Mascot wrote. It was incredibly offensive at best. I would never support the assasinaiton of the president of the united states regardless of political affiliation. I have friends working in the DOD and based on some rumors they've been telling me recently, I wouldn''t take comments like that lightly. I just want the day to be over and will pray for the safety of the president.

[NYU 0]

Let's put the shoe on the other foot... If this was the Clinton years during the time when everyone and their brother was jumping the fence at the White House, would YOU think it was banworthy to talk about how glad someone would be if Slick Willy and Hillary got .45 caliber enemas?

Honestly? No.

 

I would think it's a stupid remark -- but certainly not anything banworthy.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

I have friends working in the DOD and based on some rumors they've been telling me recently, I wouldn''t take comments like that lightly.

 

I've heard that too, but none of the threats are by a sniper. It was a stupid comment, but nonetheless, people make stupid comments on this board all the time. It's not banworthy in the least bit, and if teke would unpucker his asshole for a second, he'd realize that.

 

All of the bannings that have come from this board are absolutely fucking ridiculous. I firmly stand by my previous assessment that the mods at TSM are absolutely horrible.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Holy shit, rawmvp is reading this. Please update us on the status of you and Natalie.

 

He's gone. Probably ducking the KGB

 

Now that you mention it, I want to go read that thread again.

[teke184 0]

Tyler, if I was banning people for no reason, you and NY Untouchable would have been gone long ago.

[bob_barron 0]

Why?

 

Tyler's one of the most intelligent posters in CE.

[Styles 0]

I have friends working in the DOD and based on some rumors they've been telling me recently, I wouldn''t take comments like that lightly.

 

I've heard that too, but none of the threats are by a sniper. It was a stupid comment, but nonetheless, people make stupid comments on this board all the time. It's not banworthy in the least bit, and if teke would unpucker his asshole for a second, he'd realize that.

 

All of the bannings that have come from this board are absolutely fucking ridiculous. I firmly stand by my previous assessment that the mods at TSM are absolutely horrible.

Tyler, I know that but when friends in the know are basically saying an assasination attempt is pretty much expected I get pretty jumpy when someone says something stupid like that. Leave politics out of it, anyone who wishes a man's death in an already high risk, volatile situation is an idiot and deserves what he gets.

 

Based on the official rules, he deserved to be banned under rules 5 and 7 and maybe 1.

 

1. No trolling.

2. No spamming.

3. No calling other posters racial slurs.

4. No nudie pics shown without a link (along with pictures of spiders).

5. Conduct yourselves like sane human beings possessed of some maturity.

6. Don't disobey the mods. This does not mean you cannot disagree with them and voice your opinion, but you must still adhere to the decisions they make.

7. Mods have full discretion to warn or ban posters they feel are out of line and acting like twits.

8. No personal information of other posters or webmasters of this or any other board (such as addresses and phone numbers), or their family members, should be posted on the board, unless posted by the persons themselves. Anyone who does this and/or uses it to harrass the person in question shall be banned from the board.

[Vern Gagne 0]

That's his point.

[The Czech Republic 0]

You know, I like FS most of the time, but a comment like that was just tasteless. I mean, I wouldn't have said something like that had Kerry won. I've seen more offensive stuff go under the radar here, so I don't know where I stand on this.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I liked FS, hell I even mentioned him for mod once. But I can't support him in this. It would be irresponsible of me to do so.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I don't care about the principle, since I'm not really familiar with the law, but at least it's one less Pats fan...

 

Funny that I think some of the people here would be more offended by that then what he said.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Had it been Mike or somebody saying something about Kerry if he had one the election, it would be the same situation.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

You guys are such douchebags. Seriously. I can't decide if it's lamer to pretend to be really offended, or if you actually are REALLY REALLY OFFENDED GODDAMMIT.

[NYU 0]

What are we arguing about here?

 

The LAW says that you cannot make a direct threat against the President of the United States. Going by the document Highland presented, that's as clear as day.

 

But then again -- Failed Mascot didn't do ANYTHING of the sort. He went from saying, in an indirect - almost sarcastic manner - that "one can hope" something happens. Following that, he changed his statement to "he wouldn't shed a tear."

 

He never said he was threatening the President. He never even implied such a thing.

 

Despite Highland attempting to convince people of a non-existent line, hoping that such a thing happens is NOT against the law. It's not smart. It's not nice. It's not any of those things. But it's not against the law. And if Mascot was banned on the basis of what he said being against the law, then the decision really should be reconsidered.

 

Of course, if you're going to pull out the "banned for stupidity card", that opens another Pandora's Box of people who deserve the banning more than him.

 

Either way you look at it, the decision here doesn't make much sense at all.

[Guest Smues]

Wow this thread veered violantly off topic, so I'll try to get it back on track........Michael Moore is fat! LOL

[therealworldschampion 0]

I'll try as well...

 

Mikey would walk out.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

straight to the nearest Old Country Buffet.