Weapons of Mass Deception....

[NoCalMike 0]

Weapons of Mass Deception

 

So it opens Feb. 4th, but it screened at a theater here tonight, and this documentary is truly mind-blowing. Basically an expose on the media's lack of criticism/fact checking/honest reporting leading up and during the war including post saddam capture. No it isn't just about Fox News, it covers pretty much all mainstream media in america. I know there are going to be people on here that won't give it a chance, writing it off as "hippie bullshit" and what not, but I think it deserves a chance to be seen by everyone, not just people like me, who didn't really need any convincing in the first place.

 

Enjoy~!

[cbacon 0]

Hopefully a torrent of this becomes available.

 

Speaking of torrents, for those inclined the BBC recently produced an excellent 3 part. documentary detailing the rise of Islamic Fundamentalists and Neoconservatives from the Cold War era to present. "The Power of Nightmares" it was called.

 

Hippie Bullshit

[MrRant 0]

Now, f you're avatar didn't have hippie bullshit hair.... then I'd listen.

 

[NoCalMike 0]

Now, f you're avatar didn't have hippie bullshit hair.... then I'd listen.

 

Look again, my hair is washed, and has a SLAYER beanie covering a lot of it. Hippies and Slayer don't mix.

[Vern Gagne 0]

They would create a hidden network of evil run by the Soviet Union that only they could see.

 

Pretty much sums up the BBC's agenda.Forty years from know, they'll be telling us how the Islamo terrrorist were all a fabrication by the right-wing US. T

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Hippie Bullshit -- I got your back NoCal.

 

Out of curiousity, does this director/producer target any media source in particular? I mean you'd expect OMG FAUX NEWS LOL2005 to be involved (quit bitching, I haven't done this in quite some time), but how hard does the guy making this film target Big Media?

 

Anyway, while speaking of documentaries, anyone hear about some right-wing guy's production making fun of PC Universities?...

[Swift Terror 0]

Anyway, while speaking of documentaries, anyone hear about some right-wing guy's production making fun of PC Universities?...

 

That is "Brainwashing 101", directed by Evan Maloney.

 

This will only make conservatives look bad. I'm afraid he'll employ the same tactics as MM. The documentary will be full of careful editing and he will not confront anything that might detract from his agenda.

[NoCalMike 0]

Hippie Bullshit -- I got your back NoCal.

 

Out of curiousity, does this director/producer target any media source in particular? I mean you'd expect OMG FAUX NEWS LOL2005 to be involved (quit bitching, I haven't done this in quite some time), but how hard does the guy making this film target Big Media?

 

Anyway, while speaking of documentaries, anyone hear about some right-wing guy's production making fun of PC Universities?...

The movie targets big media in general. Basically the last half hour ties in the media's cheerleading into trying to muster Bush's support to pressure the FCC to give them more power and consolidation privelages, and how it was not likely Bush and Co. would give that to networks questioning his every move.

 

There is a chapter dedicated to Fox, but it is mostly about how Fox's popularity drove other networks to a more conservative and war-friendly attitude, by replacing their liberals hosts with more conservative hosts and such. However, the film rails on CNN/MSNBC/CBS etc....just as much as Fox. It is about big corporate media PERIOD, as most all have common interests in the end. They do cover a big portion on how the director feels CNN did just a poor of job with the Gulf War as the media overall is doing now.

[Guest INXS]

Hopefully a torrent of this becomes available.

 

Speaking of torrents, for those inclined the BBC recently produced an excellent 3 part. documentary detailing the rise of Islamic Fundamentalists and Neoconservatives from the Cold War era to present. "The Power of Nightmares" it was called.

 

Hippie Bullshit

Seen it mate, essential viewing.

[Justice 0]

If it comes to my town, I might see it (Since it'd be free with college stuff) but if not... I might D/l it, just to give it a shot. I'd like to see this all moves in, and I really want to see how he handles the "The offensive is stalled, we are losing ground" call by whoever that was early on. Overall, though, I might check it out.

 

And wow, what crap that BBC documentary looks like. So did the BBC become horribly biased while I wasn't watching or...?

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

[Justice 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long you can go between posts that have a legitmate point rather than simply bitching about Rush all the time.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long you can go between posts that have a legitmate point rather than simply bitching about Rush all the time.

You do plenty of bitching yourself sweetheart.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals...

Lord, at least INXS is entertaining. You're just bland.

 

I didn't even hear about this guy until NoCal brought him -- hell, I still don't know his/her name. So, to answer your question, give me another two weeks. By then I'm sure Rush will tell me what to think...

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals...

Lord, at least INXS is entertaining. You're just bland.

 

I didn't even hear about this guy until NoCal brought him -- hell, I still don't know his/her name. So, to answer your question, give me another two weeks. By then I'm sure Rush will tell me what to think...

Too bad you get all BUTT-hurt when somebody sticks that shitty attitude in your face. Deny it if you like. You know exactly what I am talking about. This guy has made a movie that isn't going to show the war in the best light. So he best brace himself for the shitstorm of fingerpointing that is coming his way. Cuz the smartassed comments I made earlier are very much the attitude and position that those on the right take on topics like this. That bullshit is everywhere.

 

Getting all pissy about it when some light is shown on it only indicates that it struck a nerve. Maybe you both could get Maddog and GreatOne to give a class in clarity and style.

 

 

[Justice 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long you can go between posts that have a legitmate point rather than simply bitching about Rush all the time.

You do plenty of bitching yourself sweetheart.

Aww, I'm your sweetheart now?

 

You bitch. NoCal, Jobber, hell, even C-Bacon (however deluded they are), present other points. You don't. You bitch. You add nothing to this topic besides cheap potshots at "OMG CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO~!@~#". Please, don't try to confuse yourself with anything remotely intelligent around here.

[Guest MikeSC]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long it'll take for any criticism of this guy to suddenly become "You're calling him anti-American".

 

I mean, if saying that Kerry's war protests might have been over-the-top = "You're questioning my patriotism", God knows what can be misconstrued here.

 

But, it could be worse --- he could be called an idiotic liar --- you know, like the Dems are doing to Condi Rice.

-=Mike

[Guest CronoT]

Well look who sauntered on in. Where have you been hiding, Mike?

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Getting all pissy about it when some light is shown on it only indicates that it struck a nerve.

I don't and never have given a shit about John Kerry. Find a post where I supported him. Go ahead and look.

 

Thing is, when I put words in the rights mouth it is shit they have already spit. Oh God ye thy name is Hannity.

 

Finally! You can think what you want about the validity of the things I post. I stayed on topic til you Justice tried to make the issue about ME rather than the film. I'll leave the reason up to you.

[Justice 0]

 

Getting all pissy about it when some light is shown on it only indicates that it struck a nerve.

I don't and never have given a shit about John Kerry. Find a post where I supported him. Go ahead and look.

 

Thing is, when I put words in the rights mouth it is shit they have already spit. Oh God ye thy name is Hannity.

 

Finally! You can think what you want about the validity of the things I post. I stayed on topic til you Justice tried to make the issue about ME rather than the film. I'll leave the reason up to you.

You didn't make it about the film, you made it a cheap potshot! Jesus, bitchign about Rush and wondering "When this guy will be called 'unpatriotic'?" doesn't constitute substance. It was on topic until you brought it onto you obsessive whining about Conservatives calling people unpatriotic! How the hell is your original post even on-topic?

 

Lord, you didn't even pull the 'change the quote' game right because you quoted yourself.

[Guest INXS]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long it'll take for any criticism of this guy to suddenly become "You're calling him anti-American".

 

I mean, if saying that Kerry's war protests might have been over-the-top = "You're questioning my patriotism", God knows what can be misconstrued here.

 

But, it could be worse --- he could be called an idiotic liar --- you know, like the Dems are doing to Condi Rice.

-=Mike

She IS an idiotic liar though, well a liar at any rate.

[Guest MikeSC]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long it'll take for any criticism of this guy to suddenly become "You're calling him anti-American".

 

I mean, if saying that Kerry's war protests might have been over-the-top = "You're questioning my patriotism", God knows what can be misconstrued here.

 

But, it could be worse --- he could be called an idiotic liar --- you know, like the Dems are doing to Condi Rice.

-=Mike

She IS an idiotic liar though, well a liar at any rate.

Sadly, that "idiot" is infinitely more intelligent than you've ever dreamed of being. I could toss her resume up for you, letting you get a glimpse of what fucking intellect ACTUALLY looks like, you insufferable twat.

 

But, as expected, you can't trust those of a darker hue, right INXS?

 

They all have to be liars, right?

-=Mike

[Guest INXS]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long it'll take for any criticism of this guy to suddenly become "You're calling him anti-American".

 

I mean, if saying that Kerry's war protests might have been over-the-top = "You're questioning my patriotism", God knows what can be misconstrued here.

 

But, it could be worse --- he could be called an idiotic liar --- you know, like the Dems are doing to Condi Rice.

-=Mike

She IS an idiotic liar though, well a liar at any rate.

Sadly, that "idiot" is infinitely more intelligent than you've ever dreamed of being. I could toss her resume up for you, letting you get a glimpse of what fucking intellect ACTUALLY looks like, you insufferable twat.

 

But, as expected, you can't trust those of a darker hue, right INXS?

 

They all have to be liars, right?

-=Mike

Woah, steady on pal, her skin doesn't come into it - don't EVER accuse me of being a racist. Go back to the rock you've been hiding under - your flame baiting isn't welcome here, by me at any rate.

[cbacon 0]

I wonder how long it'll be before THIS guy gets raked across the coals. I WONDER how long it will be before he gets called "anti-american". How long before he gets accused of putting the troops in danger or inspiring the terrorists? Hmm, his hair IS going grey. "Stupid grey headed liberal elite! Hurry up and get fat so we can punish you for all the years RUSH had to put up with it!"

 

 

I wonder how long it'll take for any criticism of this guy to suddenly become "You're calling him anti-American".

 

I mean, if saying that Kerry's war protests might have been over-the-top = "You're questioning my patriotism", God knows what can be misconstrued here.

 

But, it could be worse --- he could be called an idiotic liar --- you know, like the Dems are doing to Condi Rice.

-=Mike

She IS an idiotic liar though, well a liar at any rate.

Sadly, that "idiot" is infinitely more intelligent than you've ever dreamed of being. I could toss her resume up for you, letting you get a glimpse of what fucking intellect ACTUALLY looks like, you insufferable twat.

 

But, as expected, you can't trust those of a darker hue, right INXS?

 

They all have to be liars, right?

-=Mike

Hitler was an intelligent man. No, i'm not equation Condi with Hitler, but rather acknowledging the fallacy in such an argument.

 

And I think you should give the race card a rest, especially considering your countries recent attitude towards Arab Americans.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Hitler was an intelligent man. No, i'm not equation Condi with Hitler, but rather acknowledging the fallacy in such an argument.

 

And I think you should give the race card a rest, especially considering your countries recent attitude towards Arab Americans.

What attitude towards Arab Americans is that?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Getting all pissy about it when some light is shown on it only indicates that it struck a nerve. Maybe you both could get Maddog and GreatOne to give a class in clarity and style.

 

Skip, I'm not "getting pissy" over this situation. I'm merely pointing out how horrid you are at trying to get your point across.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

 

Getting all pissy about it when some light is shown on it only indicates that it struck a nerve.

I don't and never have given a shit about John Kerry. Find a post where I supported him. Go ahead and look.

 

Thing is, when I put words in the rights mouth it is shit they have already spit. Oh God ye thy name is Hannity.

 

Finally! You can think what you want about the validity of the things I post. I stayed on topic til you Justice tried to make the issue about ME rather than the film. I'll leave the reason up to you.

You didn't make it about the film, you made it a cheap potshot! Jesus, bitchign about Rush and wondering "When this guy will be called 'unpatriotic'?" doesn't constitute substance. It was on topic until you brought it onto you obsessive whining about Conservatives calling people unpatriotic! How the hell is your original post even on-topic?

 

Lord, you didn't even pull the 'change the quote' game right because you quoted yourself.

I see you read in highlights. You got from it what you wanted. Potshot or not.

[Guest BDC]

don't EVER accuse me of being a racist

It ain't the first time...

 

You know, I'm waiting for one of these movies to come out and people rally behind it and the director stands up and has a press conference that goes like this:

 

"Guess what folks? I didn't make that movie to make a point. I made that movie to see how many of you will buy into it. I made it up as I went. And you fell for it. Hell, you gave me money for it, just because you desperately wanted everything in it to be irrefutably true..."

 

I can't imagine it'd be terribly hard to pull off.

[Zorin Industries 0]

And wow, what crap that BBC documentary looks like. So did the BBC become horribly biased while I wasn't watching or...?

Just like to point out that this documentray was critically acclaimed by both left and right in the U.K. when it was first shown. That description is a bit erroneus, didn't really sum up the program properly

[Jobber of the Week 0]

words words words words words

I wonder how long you can go between posts that have a legitmate point

To his credit, he's 5 for 5 in this thread.

 

This thread is a fucking mess. Cheesala took a discussion about big news media and turned into a diatribe about opinionated political commentators. Mike briefly jumped into the fray to make a straw-man arguement that because INXS doesn't like Dr. Rice that it must be because she's black. KKK made an entire post without any joke or accusations of hippie.

 

 

 

An absolute trainwreck.