Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I have never really been a big fan of Lesnar, but, I respect what he can do in the squared circle, and I did enjoy watching him wrestle. He was no fluke--and his achievements in his short tenior with the WWE prove just that. He could give Smackdown yet another solid main eventer to add to their collection, and if he has desire, he could dominate yet again. Notice how I said, "if he has desire"--I don't want him back if he's just going to play the Goldberg role and demand victories, and everything else. That's not how the company works. He could rise through the ranks again, but I wouldn't push him back up to the main event picture right off the bat. He's already feuded with most of the main eventers anyway, so put him in the United States title hunt, and let him go at it with guys like Cena, Booker T, RVD--when he comes back--Rene Dupree, and others of that nature. Of course, it would only be a matter of time before he got back into the main event, but I wouldn't rush him like they did in his first stint with them. Lesnar can and will draw crowds, and can easily help close the gap between Smackdown and Raw, if used correctly. Also, no face turns for him. He is an animal, and animals of his nature should be booked soley as heels and nothing more. He works better as one and is more successful as one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Maybe Lesnar/Batista is in the cards.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 In one word - yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I've always been a fan of the big guy so of course I want him to come back and I'll mark the fuck out when he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Yes, I want him back, and the best way to use him if/when they bring him back is to push him to the moon right out of the gate, and make the most money they can from him as soon as possible. Let him 'pay his dues' when they've made maximum box office out his return. Doing anything else is putting ego ahead of box office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Archibald Mutombo Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Doing anything else is putting ego ahead of box office. I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sek69 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Conversely, they could do an angle where Brock would have to start from the bottom to prove himself all while being taunted by the champ. It could be a Goldberg-type push if done right (insert obvious joke about WWE never doing anything right). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Conversely, they could do an angle where Brock would have to start from the bottom to prove himself all while being taunted by the champ. It could be a Goldberg-type push if done right (insert obvious joke about WWE never doing anything right). It wouldn't work. Assuming Lesnar returns, I would wager dollars to donuts that the fans are absolutely not going to want to see Lesnar 'work his way up'. Once he first shows up again, they'll want him to be the kick ass Brock Lesnar, and be a main event player, if only because he'll instantly be the biggest name on Smackdown. Anything else won't work as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) I've never understood the paying your dues mentality, especially among smarks. Would you hate a ball player because he skipped the minors and went straight to the Majors, or a basketball player that didn't bother with college and went straight to the NBA right out of high school? I wouldn't. Edited January 30, 2005 by Highland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I would definitely want Lesnar back. He'd instantly become a top-3 worker on Smackdown in the heavyweight division and would be huge for both box office (comparatively) and crowd response. His improvement in such a short time was amazing and if he came back he'd probably pick up fairly close to where he left off (i.e. No Way Out vs. Guerrero type good). Bring him back. I don't care if he is a primadonna behind the scenes (or was near the end of his run), all I see is the finished product. And his finished product was awesome by his matches against Benoit, Guerrero, and even Big Show. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I've never understood the paying your dues mentality, They talk about paying dues because my theory is that if the wrestler works his way up, he only not get all the experience through working meaningless lower card feuds and midcard feuds, so that when he is ready to go to the top, he is a better wrestler/worker than if he was put in the main event from the beginning. This does not apply to Lesnar because he's already been to the top and the fans won't buy him as anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I want Lesnar back in WWE, provided they don't bury him for leaving. The Smackdown brand might still be good if he had never left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I will never forget how he trashed pro-wrestling, and will always hold a grudge against him for it, but it would be good for business to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Geez I must be the only person on the planet that dosent want Lesnar to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Geez I must be the only person on the planet that dosent want Lesnar to come back. You're not the only one who doesn't want Lesnar back. However, bringing him back will mean money, so it's a question of what means most to people, ego or money. If you're a businessmen, money comes first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Geez I must be the only person on the planet that dosent want Lesnar to come back. I don't want him back either. I just recognize the necessity of him being back (to draw money which is sorely needed right now in WWE). I'd rather them build other people than rely on disgruntled football player wannabe who has no appreciation for the business, but that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I will never forget how he trashed pro-wrestling, and will always hold a grudge against him for it, but it would be good for business to come back. Why hold a grudge against him because he wasn't happy doing what he was doing? Did him insulting wrestling affect you personally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sek69 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 See, this is why i suggested the "building his way up" angle. A lot of people will probably still be mad Lesnar left (in the stands and in the back) so having him work his way back up would gain sympathy from the fans and it would make an angle out of the desire to make him pay his dues for leaving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I will never forget how he trashed pro-wrestling, and will always hold a grudge against him for it, but it would be good for business to come back. To be fair, he also trashed pro wrestling BEFORE he joined the business as well. I don't really hold anything against him for saying those things, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 See, this is why i suggested the "building his way up" angle. A lot of people will probably still be mad Lesnar left (in the stands and in the back) so having him work his way back up would gain sympathy from the fans and it would make an angle out of the desire to make him pay his dues for leaving. Except it would kill his drawing power. The fans has no patience to sit through TWO different build-up pushes for Brock. If he comes back now, since he's an established star, it'd be ridiculous on Goldberg-levels to "build" him up again, thus killing the fans' interest in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 See, this is why i suggested the "building his way up" angle. A lot of people will probably still be mad Lesnar left (in the stands and in the back) so having him work his way back up would gain sympathy from the fans and it would make an angle out of the desire to make him pay his dues for leaving. Each day that an angle like that goes by, the big matches mean less and less. Lesnar will seem his most special from the first day, and the most money can be made by putting him the main events from day one. It's just that simple. It might make for a good story, having him work his way to the top, but it won't make the most money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 End Wrestlemania with him and Batista face-to-face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I am not against 'paying your dues', but it should be for the early part of a career, as in pre-WWE. By the time they get to the big leagues, they should be seasoned. The problem is that Vince brings up guys long before they are ready (ex. Orton), and thus they have to learn how to work while getting a push at the same time, and it is only a chance happening if they actually get good when they are supposed to, like Brock did. Brock is ready to go right away, so keeping him in the midcard serves no purpose other than revenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 End Wrestlemania with him and Batista face-to-face. Exactly. That's the only positive I see of Brock coming back personally, the mere chance to see a Lesnar/Batista showdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Benoit vs. Lesnar is the biggest positive, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I will never forget how he trashed pro-wrestling, and will always hold a grudge against him for it, but it would be good for business to come back. Why hold a grudge against him because he wasn't happy doing what he was doing? Did him insulting wrestling affect you personally? I didn't mind him leaving to do something else, but the way he talked about wrestling after all they did for him (pushing him to the moon, winning the world title, defeating the likes of Rock, Flair, and Taker, and giving him a main event spot at his first Wrestlemania), and he just shit on them like they did nothing for him is what pissed me off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Lesnar showing up at the end of WM would take the focus off of Batista's title win. End WM with Batista triumphant, but, possibly in the lead up to WM, hint at Lesnar's return. Then, have Raw the next night end with the two facing off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sek69 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 If you bring back Brock and have him right at the top at the start, then you run through all the main event matchups in about 6 months or so and its back to complaining that WWE is stale and boring. An angle with actual build up gives you more time with Brock as a draw before everyone sees the matches they want to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Lesnar showing up at the end of WM would take the focus off of Batista's title win. End WM with Batista triumphant, but, possibly in the lead up to WM, hint at Lesnar's return. Then, have Raw the next night end with the two facing off. How is the effect different from last year where Eddie Guerrero was in the ring with Benoit? Granted, there's a difference between two friends celebrating their recent success and a showdown between two potential rivals, but neither would hurt the end of Wrestlemania. It's creating a visual effect that you cannot replicate at any other PPVs (besides any other joint brands) and Lesnar should remain on Smackdown, not going over to Raw to confront Batista. Not to mention, what best way to end the year with the new monster facing the previous monster? If you're worried about a showdown ruining Batista's moment, you could also have Lesnar come down and shake his hand in respect, but also making it clear he intends to gun for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 See, I don't care about Batista's win, so I'm willing to sacrifice his "big moment" for the killer face-to-face showdown. It contrasts WM20's finish with Guerrero/Benoit hugging, and makes for a nice transition from HHH to Lesnar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites