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It's true that you can't forget the original, not really, I just think you should. After all, I half expected to see a quick Naomi Watts nipple slip in tribute to Fay Wray's infamous original. I suppose you can't sneak that sort of of stuff by the censors, though.

 

You can't slip Naomi Watts' nipples by the censors, no way.

 

Those things are gigantic. Had they been visible at any point, King Kong would have started battling them.

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It's true that you can't forget the original, not really, I just think you should. After all, I half expected to see a quick Naomi Watts nipple slip in tribute to Fay Wray's infamous original. I suppose you can't sneak that sort of of stuff by the censors, though.

 

You can't slip Naomi Watts' nipples by the censors, no way.

 

Those things are gigantic. Had they been visible at any point, King Kong would have started battling them.

 

 

They are huge and always immensely erect on contact.

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Can anyone fill me in on the first 10 minutes of the film? The local piece of shit theatre fucked up and after the previews aired, they turned the lights back on and the screen went dark, like it was over. We all sat there forever and 10 minutes later it came back up - only it had already started. To make it worse, the theatre actually refused to give a full discount on the film afterwards, claiming they did in fact start it at the beginning of the film and not 10 minutes into it although everyone saw otherwise. UGH! Probably the last time I go to a film there since its a run down theatre anyway with shit sound, chairs that are broken (and have plastic wrapping over them for months before they actually fix them), and staff that dont have a clue how to run a theatre. I wouldnt think it would be very hard.

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This was a very very bad movie. A badass monkey and CGI work cannot save a fucking atrocious script. Did George Lucas ghostwrite this movie or something? Poor performances all around (literally, there was not a single standout job of acting in the entire film) but that may be at least partially due to the terrible dialogue.

 

I am seriously amazed to see everyone just RAVING about this movie. What a joke. no offense or anything.

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To be honest, I normally can't abide by Jack Black, so the fact he didn't bother me at all in a vaguely serious role is a credit to him. I wasn't offended by any of the main characters, in fact. Besides, they were all supporting Andrew Serkis anyway.

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Chalk me up as one of the people that really liked it, but I haven't seen the original. Of course, anyone who goes in thinking the movie is bad because it missed out on whatever happened in the original doesn't know what they're talking about. In any artform, whether it's a movie or music, a remake/cover is best when the newer version adds something to it or puts its own spin on things. No one wants to see a duplicate. Well, except for the type of people I was referring to I guess.

 

I didn't think the pacing was hurt by any of the chase scenes, the movie whizzed by to me and I normally don't have a very good attention span during a long movie. I disliked the LOTR movies for pretty much that reason. I just felt that all the scenes added something to the movie, one aspect or another, and I didn't think anything was detrimental in that sense. In fact, the only things I thought were kinda lame were the love relationship between Driscoll and Darrow, as it didn't really get developed properly and happened out of nowhere. Sort of just threw that out there. Also, the Kid/ship mate relationship was pretty cheesy, since it was just a bunch of cliched dialogue and I didn't really feel any sympathy when that ended the way it did, mainly because the movie failed to really get it out of me. Since these two things are vastly outweighed by the positive aspects of the film, I have to say that I still rate it highly.

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This was a very very bad movie. A badass monkey and CGI work cannot save a fucking atrocious script. Did George Lucas ghostwrite this movie or something? Poor performances all around (literally, there was not a single standout job of acting in the entire film) but that may be at least partially due to the terrible dialogue.

 

I am seriously amazed to see everyone just RAVING about this movie. What a joke. no offense or anything.

Man, don't bring Lucas' name into this. The god damn gorilla projected a wider range of emotion than anyone in the SW flicks.

 

Even then, I didn't have any issues with the dialogue. I guess I'd like some examples on what was so bad here. It should also be noted that the original is more or less a B flick, only with amazing (for its time) special effects.

 

In fact, the only things I thought were kinda lame were the love relationship between Driscoll and Darrow, as it didn't really get developed properly and happened out of nowhere.

It was worse in the original. At least here it was telegraphed in a sense. The original shows Driscoll warming up to Darrow a tad and then delivering one of the movie's best unintentionally hilarious line. "Say...I guess I love you."

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While watching this movie I finally realized what it is about Peter Jackson that bugs me. He has the uncanny ability to stay on shots that desperately need panning away. I already know what Jack Black looks like, damn it. Show something else, motherfucker!

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Meatwad, I kinda know what you mean. Jackson has this hard on for using slo mo at any possible opportunity. I loved The Two Towers but one moment that always struck me as odd was the ultra serious slow motion death of that one Elf dude at Helm's Deep. Yeah, he brought the elves...why else should I give THIS much of a shit about him to where he deserves a slow motion death? Hell, in the theater I remember people were like "Oh shit, did Legolas just die???"

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Man, don't bring Lucas' name into this. The god damn gorilla projected a wider range of emotion than anyone in the SW flicks.

 

Even then, I didn't have any issues with the dialogue. I guess I'd like some examples on what was so bad here. It should also be noted that the original is more or less a B flick, only with amazing (for its time) special effects.

 

You're right about the gorilla, but then again, the gorilla didn't have any lines. (besides ARGHHHHH and RAAAAH, of course).

 

The last line of the movie "no... it wasn't the airplanes! It was beauty killed the beast!" is just terrible. terrible. And it's made even worse because of all people Jack Black says it and you just can't take Jack Black seriously, especially with this line which he delivers as if it's the most profound thing ever said by man. This was one of the "so terrible it's hilarious" lines of the film.

 

There was another line earlier in the movie that Jack Black said that was something like... "I'm the crapper of the crappers!" or some such nonsense. Who the fuck wrote that line? What did it even mean?

 

Oh, and don't forget every single one of the exchanges between that black first mate and the little kid reading that overrated book. HOORAY FOR POLITICAL COMMENTARY! WHOOO! And totally completely blatant and not subtle comentary at that. "It's not an adventure story, is it, Mr. Hayes?" I was extremely pleased when Kong finally offed that guy. But even before he died he had time to get in a "NO JIMMY! LIVE YOUR LIFE TO THE FULLEST TAKE DECISIONS I'M SO WISE!" but he did have a suitable death.

 

I must admit I can't really think of many examples of dialogue. I'm not really very good with that in the first place, plus I was stoned as a goat when I saw it so specific lines aren't really coming to me. But I know that I was just absolutely cringing half of the time. and the dialogue wasn't the only thing wrong with the script.

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One of my favorite parts was when Kong was knocking the girl over and when she fought back he got all angry and then stood there like he was proud of himself.

Monkeys are funny.

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Saw it today, thought it was pretty good.

 

I have to agree with the belief that a good portion of the jungle scenes should have been cut. A lot of the boat stuff could have been cut too.

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Narcoleptic, I'm telling you the Hayes/Kid stuff in the film is WAY too similar to the Mifune/Kid stuff in the last Matrix movie. Yeah, it's probably better but is any sort of comparison to Matrix Revolutions ever a good thing? Also, it's beyond any feasibility that in 1933 they would have a black first mate ordering the white guys around, discussing his military training (I'm assuming WWI here, but was the military integrated?).

 

I do agree there was something strange about Black's reading of the famous final line. In the original Denham is quite saddened by Kong's death and believes what he's saying, but here Black says it with such a goofy, wide eyed look of a madman that it fell sorta...flat? Here it seemed like a cliche Denham would put in one of his movies, no actual sadness behind it.

 

I'd actually recommend Son of Kong mildly if for no other reason than some decent Denham character development, where he's saddened by all the chaos he's caused, being sued by everyone in NYC, about to be indicted, and so on and thus helps Kong Jr. out on the island.

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I agree that it was similar to the Mifune/Kid stuff but I think that the Matrix did the whole mentor-kid relationship a whole hell of a lot better. Mifune was a hardass that didn't think Kid was worth a damn from the first place and their dialogue wasn't so ridiculously cliche and unbearably "inspiring". It was a more subtle relationship. This King Kong thing was just so obviously trying to speak to everybody as if we ALL need to hear what he's saying. TAKE DECISIONS, APPLY YOURSELF! blah blah shut the fuck up.

 

I am pretty sure that there were blacks in the military during WWI. I'm sure they weren't integrated with the white regiments but I'm sure there were black regiments so I don't know how unfeasible it is. But I could be wrong, easily.

 

Black's reading of that line was just flat out wrong. I don't know ... I just can't even think of how that line could be used effectively. Worst last line ever.

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Saw it the other night.

 

I liked it. It was too long, and had too many "they're fucked now, oh no wait something astonishing happened" moments, that by the bug fight you knew they were going to be saved by something random. The psychology was good, as Milky said it was mainly Stockholm Syndrome, but also her looking for love and someone to protect her and Kong representing an ideal. I don't get where all those romance murmors got started from. If someone got kidnapped, then the kidnapper protected them from bad guys, you'd have the same relationship. The sentiment at the end didn't sit well, but it was a decent telling of a good story.

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The last line of the movie "no... it wasn't the airplanes! It was beauty killed the beast!" is just terrible. terrible. And it's made even worse because of all people Jack Black says it and you just can't take Jack Black seriously, especially with this line which he delivers as if it's the most profound thing ever said by man. This was one of the "so terrible it's hilarious" lines of the film.

 

Well, that was the last line in the original. A running theme in the film (which is more prominant in the original, I've realized) is that Kong is indeed King until beauty comes into the picture. He could've remained safely in the jungle, but it was Ann who inadvertantly lured him out and made him fair game for the crew.

 

It was too long, and had too many "they're fucked now, oh no wait something astonishing happened" moments, that by the bug fight you knew they were going to be saved by something random.

 

Jackson expanded on it, but that's essentially what the original is from the moment Ann's kidnapped by the natives. Even if someone tries to watch the original in a historical context, it's hard to ever feel like the key characters are in much danger. The effects are still amazing for their time, but watching it now, there's not much suspense in these types of scenes, even in ones where casulties occur. I said earlier that these aren't my cup of tea, but the CGI made them as suspenseful as they could be.

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Just saw it. I actually teared up during it (Andy Serkis deserves a fucking Oscar here.)

 

I will admit, Jack Black delivery of the famous last line did suck. Still loved the movie.

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So it said Serkis played King Kong. What did he do exactly?

He also plays a characer named Lumpy, who is also awesome.

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Was Lumpy the Aussie chef who got eaten by the worms?

 

A complaint I forgot about until seeing that creepy BK commercial again: The cheesy sequence where Ann reunites with Kong in NY, with the "backlit slow walk toward the camera" bit.

 

I would like to have seen some homage to the classic "Kong takes Ann from the hotel room" scene.

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Yeah, but that worked so well because she was still terrified of him in the original. He could've done it in this one, but it wouldn't be the same, since she didn't seem to object to him picking her up in the street.

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