1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Since my favorite team is the Eagles, I will just post each of their free agents, and my thoughts on them and whether they will return. Anyone who wants to can do the same. ERFA= Exclusive Rights Free Agent RFA= Restricted Free Agent UFA= Unrestricted Free Agent Roderick Hood CB ERFA He'll be brought back. Played decently at Nickelback and on Special Teams Alonzo Ephraim C ERFA I don't know that he sees the field that often with Fraley in front of him. Doesn't matter to me. Quintin Mikell S ERFA Decent roleplayer. He'll be brought back as well. Brian Westbrook RB RFA He'll be brought back, but I think next year might be his last with the Birds since with his stature now, he'll be able to command a large enough salary that Reid and Co. will try to replace him. Ian Allen OT RFA Did he even play this year? Derrick Burgess DE UFA Reid likes him, and he did a hell of a job on the other side of Kearse. I see him coming back. Jermane Mayberry OG UFA Great O Lineman, but he's getting up there in years. Could see him returning if he doesn't want a ridiculous salary. Tra Thomas OT UFA Now that's a big son of a bitch. He'll be back for at least 3 more years. Corey Simon DT UFA Reid likes him also, but I see the salary demands being way too high. See ya later Corey. Jon Ritchie FB UFA Coming off a season of injury and after his role was effectively filled by a practice squad player, Josh Parry, I don't see Ritchie returning. Jeff Blake QB UFA Third stringer and old. Could be brought back for pennies if he accepts. Correll Buckhalter RB UFA Injury prone and unneccesary. He may be brought back for his size however. Keith Adams LB UFA Did a great job starting over Mark Simoneau. He is Trotter's protege. He'll be back if Jeremiah signs. Jeremiah Trotter LB UFA Came back after a shitty run with the Redskins and made the Pro Bowl after only starting half the season. Paid his dues in Special Teams early on. Give him the money for the love of God. Just an outstanding player. Dorsey Levens RB UFA The old man really did a nice job this year. I'd like to see him back for one more year, but I dunno. This team has cut him before. Hugh Douglas DE UFA Looked good early on, but didn't really contribute much in the second half of the year or the playoffs. See ya later Hugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 8, 2005 The only major free agent of the Patriots is the kicker. Its good to be a Boston sports fan right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Where can you find the FA lists? I want to see who the Patriots are gonna steal this year, MWAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH Hey, maybe we can bring in Westbrook and turn him into a defensive back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Real Patriots fans don't cheer on the Yankees. Go be a Jets fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 The only major free agent of the Patriots is the kicker. Its good to be a Boston sports fan right now. Not if you count losing your Offensive and your Defensive coordinators as good fortune. And I just searched on Google for the Eagles' list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Eric Mangini is Bill Belichik juinor as far as defense goes, so the D-Coord will be fine. Maybe Norm Chow will wanna take a trip to New England. One can hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 8, 2005 And here's the full free agent list http://www.theredzone.org/2005/freeagents/index.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Mangini will be the D-Coordinator as Mascot said, so there's ZERO loss there. Weis is severely overrated as well. Maybe even an improvement by bringing in someone new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Kevin Barry OT RFA Aaron Kampman DE RFA Najeh Davenport RB RFA Paris Lenon LB RFA Tony Fisher RB RFA Craig Nall QB RFA Marco Rivera OG UFA Bubba Franks TE UFA Hannibal Navies LB UFA David Martin TE UFA Torrance Marshall LB UFA Doug Pederson QB UFA Bhawoh Jue S UFA Bryan Barker P UFA Kelvin Kight WR UFA Jason Horton CB UFA Nick Rogers LB UFA Cullen Jenkins DT UFA Ben Steele TE UFA Kevin Barry was essential to the U-71 formation, him being the 71 part of it. He's an extremely good run blocker, but needs to work on pass blocking. Fisher has already been resigned, and I'd take a look at resigning Nall as well. Horton was actually able to cover his side of the field in the Indy game, which is easier said than done (and noone said it would be easy) so I think he has some potential. Davenport might want to find a job elsewhere, and the Torrance Marshall project has gone on seemingly FOREVER now. Maybe he'll succeed somewhere else, or perhaps the Pack might think about reviving him under Jim Bates. He'd be better than Hannibal Navies, at any rate. Obviously Wahle, Rivera, and Franks would be vital, but I don't know if the Packers can get all 3 and somehow stay under the cap. Everyone else (especially Doug Pederson) can go fuck themselves. Except for Bhawoh Jue and Aaron Kampman, who were solid but not really starting-caliber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 New Orleans 'Aints- Talman Gardner WR ERFA Howard Green DT ERFA James Allen LB RFA Roger Knight LB RFA Mel Mitchell S UFA Jay Bellamy S UFA Tony Bryant DE UFA Jason Craft CB UFA Steve Gleason S UFA Lamont Hall TE UFA Sedrick Hodge LB UFA Kevin Houser LS UFA Darren Howard DE UFA Fred McAfee RB UFA Victor Riley OT UFA Most of these guys are scrubs IMHO. Gardner (WR) is expendable considering that they've got Joe Horn, Donte Stallworth, Jerome Pathon, and Devery Henderson. Howard Green (DT) is a question mark... he's a starter but they may want to sign a better DT or draft someone considering their poor defense last year. James Allen (LB) is in the same boat as Green, a starter on a sub-par defense. Roger Knight (LB) is more expendable because he's a BACKUP in a sub-par defense. Mel Mitchell (S) and Jay Bellamy (S) are question marks. These guys are listed 1-2 on the depth chart but Mitchell has almost no experience and Bellamy is getting old (11 years experience). Bellamy is probably the better choice to keep but I'd draft some stud Safety in an early round to be his understudy. Tony Bryant (DE) is a backup on a subpar defense, so he may be gone in favor of new personnel. I don't see anything that would suggest he's better than anyone else on this defense. Jason Craft (CB) is expendable because he's a backup to Mike McKenzie, who really caught on to the Saints' schemes after coming in from Green Bay. With McKenzie working out so well, the question remains whether he'd be good enough to keep as a backup instead of a rookie they could work on as a long-term project. Tebucky Jones (S) appears to be worth keeping because he's the backup for both Free Safety and Strong Safety in addition to putting up decent numbers. If they can sign him for an affordable amount, he's worth keeping. Lamont Hall (TE) is expendable because Boo Williams and Ernie Conwell are the top two TEs and did decently. Unless he's the best blocker of the three on run plays, I don't see a reason to keep him around. Sedrick Hodge (LB) is good but they need to figure out what shape his knee is in. If there will be long-term problems with it, it would be a bad idea to count on him long-term. Kevin Houser (LS) hasn't screwed up but Long-Snapper is a low-priority position. If he's affordable, they might as well keep him. If he'll cost them too much, look at alternatives. Darren Howard (DE) is an injury case. Considering that last year's draft pick, Will Smith, is playing ahead of him, Howard could be cut depending on what is done with the other backup DE, Tony Bryant. Fred McAffe (RB), while a favorite of mine, is ripe for a cut because they have both Deuce McAllister and Aaron Stecker in front of him as a RB and they already have a bunch of other guys on the depth chart as kick returners. Victor Riley (OT) is questionable. He's a starting tackle but I feel that the O-Line is one area where the Saints need to pick up some better talent. Things have gone downhill there since Pro-Bowlers Kyle Turley and Willie Roaf blew town. If they can find a better tackle, I'd consider signing them instead. Names I'd like to see the Saints look at on the FA market are Orlando Pace (OT, Unrestricted Free Agent, Rams), TJ Slaughter (LB, UFA, Ravens), Adalius Thomas (LB, UFA, Ravens), Trev Faulk (LB, Restricted FA, Rams), and Jimmy Williams (CB, RFA, 49ers). Pace is a no-brainer for any team looking to shore up their O-line. The rest are players I know from Baton Rouge, LSU, or Southern Miss who are all good at what they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Big Blue: Willie Ponder WR ERFA Greg Walker OT ERFA Frank Walker CB ERFA TJ Hollowell LB ERFA Curry Burns S ERFA Derrick Ward RB ERFA Kendrick Allen DT ERFA James Maxwell LB ERFA Wayne Lucier C ERFA Jack Brewer S RFA Ron Dayne RB UFA Jim Finn FB UFA Michael Cloud RB UFA Jesse Palmer QB UFA Brandon Winey OT UFA Lance Legree DT UFA Steve Christie PK UFA Besides Christie, Ponder, Finn, and possibly Frank Walker, they're all gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy no nose 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 The Steelers free agency is pretty interesting. Sean Morey WR ERFA Bo Lacy OT ERFA Eric Taylor DE ERFA Grant Bowman DT ERFA Dedrick Roper LB ERFA Vontez Duff CB ERFA Verron Haynes RB RFA Lee Mays WR RFA Brett Keisel DE RFA Larry Foote LB RFA Chris Hope FS RFA Jeff Reed PK RFA Charlie Batch QB UFA Plaxico Burress WR UFA Matt Cushing TE UFA Barrett Brooks OT UFA Oliver Ross OT UFA Kendrick Clancy DT UFA Kendrell Bell LB UFA Willie Williams CB UFA Ainsley Battles SS UFA Tyrone Carter FS UFA Haynes, Foote, Hope, and Reed are restricted FAs who I think they have to keep. I don't know that they'll be getting any offers, but if they do they will probably have to match them. Kendrell Bell is probably out the door after this year. His rookie year was very impressive, but he's been injured every year since then and I don't think the Steelers think he is reliable enough to hold on to. Plaxico Burress is likely gone too. He has already said he'd like to play elsewhere and the Steelers are one of those organizations that don't like having players who they think are going to be a problem for the team. He'll be very tough to replace. Oliver Ross is probably gone at tackle too after having a good year for the first time ever. He'll probably get a decent offer somewhere and be out. Willie Williams is kind of interesting because I don't know if they want to keep him, but he might be necessary just to have a veteran at CB. Chad Scott is set to make a lot of money this year and will possibly be cut. No one else on the list really matters too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Real Patriots fans don't cheer on the Yankees. Go be a Jets fan. Fuck off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Real Patriots fans don't cheer on the Yankees. Go be a Jets fan. Fuck off He's right, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Tony Brown DT ERFA Dewaine Carpenter S ERFA Ray Wells LB ERFA Saleem Rasheed LB RFA Kyle Kosier OG RFA Eric Heittman OG RFA Cedrick Wilson WR RFA Jimmy Williams CB RFA Ronnie Heard S UFA Rob Murphy OG UFA Curtis Conway WR UFA Todd Peterson PK UFA Brock Guttierez C UFA Terry Jackson FB UFA Jerome Davis OT UFA Brandon Moore LB UFA Julian Peterson LB UFA They can all go bar Peterson. Franchise him and let Nolan turn him into the centrepiece of the D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 The only two on the Skins that I adamantly want resigned are: Fred Smoot Antonio Pierce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Real Patriots fans don't cheer on the Yankees. Go be a Jets fan. Fuck off He's right, you know. What the fuck do the NEW ENGLAND Patriots have to do with the BOSTON Red Sox. It's TWO DIFFERENT SPORTS, and the Pats don't even play in Boston, they play in Foxboro, which is closer to Rhode Island than it is to Boston. If I was rooting for the BoSox and the Yankees you'd have an argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 It's a suburb of Boston. They'd play in Boston if there was room (spent a few years at Fenway, I believe). Where was that victory parade? Not Foxboro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Suburb of Boston? If you call Syracuse a suburb of NYC sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 It's a suburb of Boston. They'd play in Boston if there was room (spent a few years at Fenway, I believe). Where was that victory parade? Not Foxboro. Cambridge is a suburb of Boston. Foxboro is it's own city, 30 some odd miles away, and like I said, closer to Rhode Island, a state the NEW ENGLAND Patriots also represent, along with CT, NH and VT. The Patriots haven't played a game in Boston for over 30 years, well before I was born. The parade was in Boston because it's the biggest city in New England, no surprise there. If Providence was the biggest city in the region, that's where it would be. I love how a dude from ILLINOIS is trying to tell me who and what I can be a fan of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 There really is nothing wrong with people rooting for the Yankees and the Patriots. Although most of the time people like that are also Laker's fans, and probably used to be Cowboys fans... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Weis is severely overrated as well. Maybe even an improvement by bringing in someone new. If it means not putting Kevin Faulk in to run for key situations (i.e. the Pats' final drive Sunday where they could have killed the clock), then change is good. Weis never totally got the fact that he had COREY DILLON on his offense and giving him the ball more than 6 times in a half is a GOOD idea. Pats shouldn't lose anyone major this year. Next year might be different, since that's when the contracts of Brady and Seymour are up. What's an Exclusive Rights Free Agent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 9, 2005 There really is nothing wrong with people rooting for the Yankees and the Patriots. Nobody wants your insight on this matter or any other matter. They're the New England Patriots only because they couldn't get land in Boston to build a stadium. For the longest time they were however the Boston Patriots playing their home games at Fenway, BU, and BC. Also its a stupid thing to say "Foxboro is closer to Rhode Island than it is Boston". Well Mr. Smarty Pants, which state are both Boston and Foxboro in? KingPK, tell them they can't be Yankees fans and Patriots fans and if they continue they'll get banned. Its like somebody in Southie cheering on the Red Sox and Jets. Precious Roy can claim to be a real Pats fan but in the end he's on the outside looking in unless he drops those Yankees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I think that means their last team has the right of first negotiation without competition, or can choose to pass them along into the FA pool. David Givens is a free agent too, there may be a market for him out there considering the top FA WRs are Plaxico Burress, Jerry Porter and Tim Houshmanwhateverthefuck. Yuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 9, 2005 If it means not putting Kevin Faulk in to run for key situations (i.e. the Pats' final drive Sunday where they could have killed the clock), then change is good. Weis never totally got the fact that he had COREY DILLON on his offense and giving him the ball more than 6 times in a half is a GOOD idea. Dillon was banged up a bit on that final drive. Didn't you see him limping on the sidelines and grimacing? Pats shouldn't lose anyone major this year. Next year might be different, since that's when the contracts of Brady and Seymour are up. Brady has 2 more years on his current deal and Seymour has 3 more years actually. Although locking up Brady to a long term deal this winter is ideal. What's an Exclusive Rights Free Agent? Its the equivilant to a baseball player that is only arbitration eligible. While he doesn't have a contract no other team can negotiate with said player unless his current team drops him first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 9, 2005 David Givens is a free agent too RFA, he aint going anywhere. The Pats could put him down for a max offer sheet(which would be about $3mill since he was a 7th round) and if any team grabbed him they would owe the Pats a first or second round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Also its a stupid thing to say "Foxboro is closer to Rhode Island than it is Boston". Well Mr. Smarty Pants, which state are both Boston and Foxboro in? Who cares about state lines? That's so antiquated. Geographic proximity means more to me, and until they're UN-NAMED the "New England Patriots" they represent the ENTIRE REGION. Its like somebody in Southie cheering on the Red Sox and Jets. No, it's actually not like that at all, since I'm not from Boston, and I'm not from the Bronx either. If I LIVED in Boston, or had EVER lived in Boston I'd most likely be a Red Sox fan. As it is three generations of my family on one side are from NY, a couple more than that on the other side are from various places around New England. I've lived in far west mass (just as close to NYC as Boston), upstate/western NY, NYC, Rhode Island and New Hampshire, NONE of which are the same as living in South Boston. Precious Roy can claim to be a real Pats fan but in the end he's on the outside looking in unless he drops those Yankees. And I can continue to tell you to fuck off, you pretentious, smartass cunt. I've got just as much claim to the Patriots as you do, and I've been a fan since the day I started watching football. My first experience with football WAS a Patriots game in Foxboro. You mad that I'm a Yankees fan? Mad that I'm a Knicks fan? Gonna cry about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted February 9, 2005 After that I think Precious Roy should be suspended to Tape Trading for two weeks unless he writes me a long and serious public appology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 So you start an argument with him, and then insult me, again, and HE should be suspended to a shitty folder? Right. Life must suck for you, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 KingPK, tell them they can't be Yankees fans and Patriots fans and if they continue they'll get banned. How about all three of you clam up about this, mmkay? Don't bog down FOOTBALL threads with Yankees/Red Sox crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
