Who should of won the WWE world title...

[res37618 0]

If only he could have stayed healthy, Ahmed Johnson...though I have a feeling it woulda been similar to Sid's reigns (over guy but sudden crap with the belt)...

 

One guy who SHOULD someday get it is Shelton Benjamin, but the fucking guy wasn't even on Raw in Japan, for whatever reason...freaking IC champ is on Raw once in 3 weeks?  he'll never get over so i'll let that dream go...

You can't be serious . . . Ahmed Johnson should never have been even CLOSE to the WWF title. In fact, if he tries to call Figures, Inc. to order a replica belt, he shouldn't be allowed to do that either. No Jakks Pacific toy foam belt, no 8x10 pics of anyone he knows with the belt, nothing. Don't even give him black paper, glue and glitter to make his own belt.

 

Ahmed would've injured every challenger he had for the title, and then left his own injured kidney stapled to it when he finally forfeited the belt.

 

My God, if Ahmed had won the WWF title, I wouldn't even be typing this right now, as I would've quit watching wrestling and taken up a new hobby, like eating shards of broken glass or repairing nail guns with a backfiring problem.

 

Little Japanese children just started crying over your post proclaiming Ahmed as a should-be WWF champion.

 

[Black Lushus 0]

dude....I said IF HE STAYED HEALTHY...that guy was insanely over during the first stretch of his career...you musta been on crack if you didn't notice that....go back and watch tapes from his first run prior to the kidney injury...that guy was on Goldberg levels of overness...the marks ate his act up...

[res37618 0]

dude....I said IF HE STAYED HEALTHY...that guy was insanely over during the first stretch of his career...you musta been on crack if you didn't notice that....go back and watch tapes from his first run prior to the kidney injury...that guy was on Goldberg levels of overness...the marks ate his act up...

Pre-injury, post-injury, doesn't matter. He was semi-over in a 1995/1996 WWF where the whole company was in the shitter. No WWF title for him, thank goodness. You talk about some bad promos and even worse matches.

 

Errch, I don't know if I'll even sleep tonight, nightmares may abound from this revelation of Ahmed as WWF champ.

 

My hands just went into convulsions typing that. Thanks, Ahmed, you just made a grown man cry.

 

Any time you think Ahmed should've been WWF champ, just remember this:

 

 

[Black Lushus 0]

I've seen worse...

 

long term champ? Nah...transition champ? yup...

[pochorenella 0]

One guy who SHOULD someday get it is Shelton Benjamin, but the fucking guy wasn't even on Raw in Japan, for whatever reason...freaking IC champ is on Raw once in 3 weeks? he'll never get over so i'll let that dream go...

 

He did wrestle in Japan but his match was taped for Heat. I forget who he wrestled, though.

 

As for Ahmed as WWF champ, everybody's salivating for Monty Brown over on TNA to become NWA champ. Isn't he basically the same thing as Ahmed?

[Jericho2000Mark 0]

I would have liked to see Owen end Bret's reign in '94, then transition the belt to Razor, who would recieve the push Nash had. I think he would have been more successful in that role, as he was more over and a better worker than Nash.

 

Piper would be too much of a risk, since he wouldn't put over Hogan at all, back then.

 

I do agree with Snuka(82/83), RVD(01/02) and Vader(SummerSlam '96).

[res37618 0]

One guy who SHOULD someday get it is Shelton Benjamin, but the fucking guy wasn't even on Raw in Japan, for whatever reason...freaking IC champ is on Raw once in 3 weeks? he'll never get over so i'll let that dream go...

 

He did wrestle in Japan but his match was taped for Heat. I forget who he wrestled, though.

 

As for Ahmed as WWF champ, everybody's salivating for Monty Brown over on TNA to become NWA champ. Isn't he basically the same thing as Ahmed?

I don't think so . . . Monty's matches are at least entertaining, and as far as I know, Monty isn't known for stiffing ever guy he steps in the ring with. And, let's be honest, there's a difference in becoming champ of TNA and becoming WWE champ . . . while the NWA belt is well-respected, it's just not the same as the days of Flair/Race/Funk/Thesz, etc. I just can't view it as a World title anymore, even though it deserves so much more.

 

TNA is good, even great at times, but will probably never hold a candle to WWE in terms of financial gain and worldwide acceptance. But, you never know . . . I'm rooting for them, we need some competition. Eventually, though, Panda Energy is gonna want to see some return on their investment, and as long as TNA keeps losing money, it's gonna get harder and harder to dig out of that hole. It's pretty obvious that TNA keeps running the Universal Studios tapings/PPV's instead of branching to new arenas and territories because they can't afford to do much more. It's actually a smart move to keep it the way it is, it at least minimizes the expense of running the shows.

 

And no, Ahmed shouldn't be NWA champ either, or Major League Wrestling champ, or Southern States Wrestling champ, or champ of the backyard league that runs about a mile from my house.

 

Seriously, the guy just can't be considered as someone who could've ever been a legitimate World champ, no matter what part of his career you're looking at.

[JJMc 0]

Edit. Retarded post. I apologize to anyone who even glanced at it.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Ahmed Johnson wasn't that bad at first. He was green and still feeling his way around. The problem was he was constantly injured and never really got going in terms of in ring improvement. He was definitely the #2 babyface from the Spring-Summer of 1996 though.

[Guest Loss]

Ted DiBiase and Rob Van Dam are the most obvious ones. Savage holding the belt in '88 instead of DiBiase ended up working out all right anyway, but RVD was getting heat in 2001 similar to what Goldberg got in 1998, and should have gotten the belt within a few months of his debut. Instead, it went to Jericho, who should have gotten it in 2000 instead of Kurt Angle.

[Guest Rrrsh]

I think Raven, as WCW champ would have been so diffrent that it would have worked.

 

 

To answer your question, I say Perfect easy.

[Guest INXS]

I'm going with Kerry Von Erich, he had the look and def the talent, with a decent push he could ahve got over as a main event draw in WWF, I think.

[res37618 0]

I'm going with Kerry Von Erich, he had the look and def the talent, with a decent push he could ahve got over as a main event draw in WWF, I think.

If Hogan hadn't gone to WWF in '84, I could definitely see Kerry as a WWF champ back in the mid-late '80's, but I don't know if you would've ever gotten him away from World Class then. I don't know that a more lucrative contract would've even done it, the Von Erich brothers were pretty much set on making WCCW a success, and they succeeded for a while.

 

Even in '90, he was pretty entertaining as IC champ, but they pretty much buried him once he lost the strap back to Perfect.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

In 84 WCCW was in the decline already, David had died, Mike was pushed farther than any Green Kid should've been (Erik Watts has nothing on Mike VE's rookie push, and Watts may have had more talent.)

The Freebirds were already gone. Kevin was hugely over rated in his own right, as he was only as good as whom ever he faced in the ring. kerry was capable of getting over nationally as he showed up on some big AWA/NWA cards and got a good response. His drug use would've made Vince not push him to the moon (See Snuka, Jimmy) as Fritz had to call every favors constantly to keep his boys out of trouble with the law.

 

VE Story: The bros bought a 15 year old Mike a prostitute once, and Mike ended up crying instead of making it with her. Chris was a horn dog in his own right, according to the rags back in the day.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

from Mike Johnson, at P W Insider.com

 

VCI Entertainment, which has released a number of DVDs under the "Wrestling Gold" title, has come to terms with Kevin Von Erich to release a series of DVDs dedicated to the Von Erich family and World Class Championship Wrestling.

 

The first DVD, pictured above, will be "The Best of the Von Erichs" and is scheduled to feature matches involving Kevin Von Erich, Kerry Von Erich, David Von Erich, Mike Von Erich, Chris Adams, The Fabulous Freebirds, Gino Hernandez, Jimmy Garvin, Kamala, Iceman Parsons, Andre the Giant, Jake Roberts, and Steve Simpson.

 

Based out of Dallas, Texas, World Class Championship Wrestling was one of the top wrestling territories in the early-late 1980s, bouyed by the popularity of the Von Erich family. Kevin Von Erich, the final surviving member of the family, had been in negotiations recently with WWE about purchasing his tape library, but the two sides were unable to come to terms on a deal.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Of current guys, I don't see why Rey Misterio shouldn't have had a reign as WWE Champion (other than Vince would never push him because of his size). He's been consistently over for years, and appeals to a wide audience, including kids & teens, a group the company has lost in recent years. Plus, he pushes a lot of merchandise.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Of current guys, I don't see why Rey Misterio shouldn't have had a reign as WWE Champion (other than Vince would never push him because of his size). He's been consistently over for years, and appeals to a wide audience, including kids & teens, a group the company has lost in recent years. Plus, he pushes a lot of merchandise.

Rey as WWE Champion would be interesting, yes.

 

He could do the underdog champion fighting with all of his body, mind, and soul pretty well, possibly leading to some very compelling matches as Champ.

 

...though...would he be able to wear the title around his waist without it falling off of him?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Of current guys, I don't see why Rey Misterio shouldn't have had a reign as WWE Champion (other than Vince would never push him because of his size).  He's been consistently over for years, and appeals to a wide audience, including kids & teens, a group the company has lost in recent years.  Plus, he pushes a lot of merchandise.

Rey as WWE Champion would be interesting, yes.

 

He could do the underdog champion fighting with all of his body, mind, and soul pretty well, possibly leading to some very compelling matches as Champ.

 

...though...would he be able to wear the title around his waist without it falling off of him?

He's been tag champ before, so I don't see that being a problem.

[tbondrage99 0]

I agree I think all the belts are pretty much one size fits all......well unless your the size of someone like Yokozuna & Visceria I guess...but hey in that case at least you have a nice shoulder strap.

[Enigma 0]

Raven was so ready to be WCW Champion in 1998. I really believe he was the big main-event heel that was destined to keep WCW fresh when the nWo angle ran its course. He had the most heel heat of someone not in the nWo (and probably had more heel heat than anyone in the nWo not named Hogan, Hall, or Nash) but someone convinced Bischoff he couldn't draw, brother.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Who convinced Vince McMahon he couldn't? Besides, if Hogan didn't halt him, Nash would've once he got the book, and made him look as pathetic as Goldberg.

[Some Guy 0]

I don't think VInce ever liked him. He turned him into a manager/commentater in 93/94. And according to Raven when Vince found out that he signed with WWF in 2000 Vince said something like, "Raven? Who the fuck hired Raven?"

 

Big mistake by Vince in not using him right. The guy had good matches, great promos, and would've gotten way over if used properly. He and Austin in a program would have been very good.

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Who convinced Vince McMahon he couldn't?

Pat Patterson.

[Guest LooneyTune]

I don't think VInce ever liked him. He turned him into a manager/commentater in 93/94. And according to Raven when Vince found out that he signed with WWF in 2000 Vince said something like, "Raven? Who the fuck hired Raven?"

McMahon at least shows he is consistant in not recognizing talent (later years, Ultimo Dragon) while Jim Ross (I'm guessing he was responsible for signing Raven) still does.