Guest Deadbolt Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 Credit: ESPN The Carolina Panthers have released wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports. The team had until Wednesday to make a decision about Muhammad, who would have been owed a $10 million bonus. Muhammad caught 93 passes for 1,405 yards and 16 touchdowns this season, his best by far since he joined Carolina in 1996 out of Michigan State. not surprised by this as its been talked about the last few weeks. i can think of a few teams that may try and get him. he proved last year that he can still be a #1 WR if given the chance
therealworldschampion Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 The Eagles were trying to recruit him at the Pro Bowl a few weeks ago, so there's a possible destination.
Guest Failed Mascot Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Joe Gibbs go after him. He's that big-tough wideout that Gibbs loves having. A combo of him and Moss would be very potent and take pressure off of Portis.
Guest El Satanico Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 Washington would have a tough time convincing him to go there and not Philly. Unless Washington offers him a much larger contract, I can't see it happening.
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 Fuck the NFL. NFL contracts and bonuses are about as good as toilet paper.
razazteca Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Do the Panthers have any good WRs left on the team? Are there any big name free agents that the Panthers are trying to get by dumping Muhammad? Fuck the NFL. NFL contracts and bonuses are about as good as toilet paper. Nothing wrong with the system. The players get most of the money from the signing bonuses, if they have a good season they get some more money from incentives. Its not like Muhammad is on the same level as Torry Holt or Issiac Bruce.....more like Peerless Price type of player.
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 He was owed a $10 million bonus so they cut his ass. From now on, I side with the players on money issues. The GMs can put together a nice-looking contract so that you sign your services over to them, but they don't have to honor the contract if you're about to get big money.
Guest El Satanico Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 They still have Steve Smith and that rookie...Colbert I think.
LaParkaMarka Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Yeah, the Panthers are fine at WR as long as no one goes down to injury. Muhammad is a good WR, but he's aging and not exactly worth $10 million. How many receivers are?
Guest Deadbolt Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Owens and Muhammad would be a nice combo. but i see someone else giving him more money than the eagles. maybe the Ravens
UZI Suicide Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 I'd be shocked if he didn't end up in Baltimore.
tominator89 Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Looks like he's headed to Chicago. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3422946
JustJoe2k5 Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Yeah, Muhammad is going to the Bears. Panthers play them next year to.
therealworldschampion Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Hmm, I wonder if the Bears will still draft a WR now with that high pick of theirs...
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 The Bears should draft a WR just so we never have to see Dave Terrible play again.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Bad move IMO. Instead of getting a WR, they should have gone for a QB and then looked to the draft for a WR. Unless they planned for Muhammad to teach the rookie WR the ropes if the Bears actually did draft one in the first or second round.
LaParkaMarka Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 There's a glut of backup QBs on the market, I imagine they can still get a Jay Fiedler type without spending too much. The Bears passing offense was terrible last year, they're going to need more than just a rookie WR to help them out. Their O-line needs to be improved, and they could still use some more help at WR (Justin Gage isn't the answer). So they could still draft one of the best WRs (Edwards/Williams) and then look for O-line help elsewhere.
MrRant Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 He was owed a $10 million bonus so they cut his ass. From now on, I side with the players on money issues. The GMs can put together a nice-looking contract so that you sign your services over to them, but they don't have to honor the contract if you're about to get big money. They get their signing bonus guaranteed. That means they could play one game and get injured and still get the say $4 million bonus they signed and it also allows NFL teams to not get too horribly bloated by bad guaranteed contracts like the NBA.
Guest Failed Mascot Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 The Bears have a good young QB, he was just injured last season. Rex Grossman is going to pan out to be an above average QB. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Bears draft Ronnie Brown now since Lovie Smith likes the smash-mouth style and could run both Jones and Brown down people's throats while Muhammad and one other WR holds the defense honest.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 From now on, I side with the players on money issues. I agree for the most part -- especially when a NFL player holds out for more money. Now it's true that they get all of their signing bonus, but isn't the point of a contract to, you know, say "so-and-so will play for us for a number of years and in turn we'll pay them this amount of money..."?
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 The Bears have a good young QB, he was just injured last season. Rex Grossman is going to pan out to be an above average QB. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Bears draft Ronnie Brown now since Lovie Smith likes the smash-mouth style and could run both Jones and Brown down people's throats while Muhammad and one other WR holds the defense honest. I thought his injury was supposed to carry over to this coming season too?
Guest Deadbolt Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 i'm not sure where else they need help but adding Edwards from Michigan will add another great target for Grossman and they could get rid of Terrell. for a team thats looking to add to there passing game you can't pass up Edwards imo
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted February 27, 2005 Report Posted February 27, 2005 i'm not sure where else they need help but adding Edwards from Michigan will add another great target for Grossman and they could get rid of Terrell. for a team thats looking to add to there passing game you can't pass up Edwards imo Eh, I'd take Mike Williams instead, even if he runs a 4.5 40.
Guest El Satanico Posted February 27, 2005 Report Posted February 27, 2005 I'd be a little hesitant taking another Michigan WR in the first round. David Terrell was great in college too. Besides, don't the Bears already have two young WRs they're high on? If so, then picking up someone like Muhammad, instead of drafting a WR high, makes more sense.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted February 27, 2005 Report Posted February 27, 2005 I'd be a little hesitant taking another Michigan WR in the first round. David Terrell was great in college too. Besides, don't the Bears already have two young WRs they're high on? If so, then picking up someone like Muhammad, instead of drafting a WR high, makes more sense. Justin Gage disappointed last season I believe, and who's the other receiver? Because David Terrell has been disappointing since 2000, so it isn't him.
Prime Time Andrew Doyle Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 What a bad, bad move. $12 Million guaranteed for a 32 year old WR. In the 3 years prior to this one, he had 167 catches, 2245 yds & 7 TD's. His average was 56 catches for 784 yds and 2 TD's over those 3 years, whilst servicable, they do not deserve a $12 million guaranteed contract. His production will never get close to this years total again, and will be gone in 3 years or less from the Bears. They may have set themselves on the path to salary cap hell if they make more bad signings like this one.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 That's what I thought immediately, until I realized that the Chicago Bears haven't had a marquee player at a skills position since Walter Payton. They're clearly a rebuilding team anyway, and an O-line is something that can be built on the cheap with good scouting and some sense. The bears have NOTHING on offense. Jones is not the answer at RB, and Grossman needs SOMETHING to throw at. I think he'll be a worthy acquisition. Seriously, this team, minus a couple bodies, had a defense that propelled them to a damn good season a few years back. It's still there, and the coaching has only improved. With a couple more offensive pickups, the bears will actually matter. Mark my words. Especially in that division. Favre's about done, Minnesota just lost their biggest weapon and is poorly coached, the Lions are chronic underachievers....I don't think a chicago bears playoff berth is out of the question, honestly.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 That's what I thought immediately, until I realized that the Chicago Bears haven't had a marquee player at a skills position since Walter Payton. They're clearly a rebuilding team anyway, and an O-line is something that can be built on the cheap with good scouting and some sense. The bears have NOTHING on offense. Jones is not the answer at RB, and Grossman needs SOMETHING to throw at. I think he'll be a worthy acquisition. Seriously, this team, minus a couple bodies, had a defense that propelled them to a damn good season a few years back. It's still there, and the coaching has only improved. With a couple more offensive pickups, the bears will actually matter. Mark my words. Especially in that division. Favre's about done, Minnesota just lost their biggest weapon and is poorly coached, the Lions are chronic underachievers....I don't think a chicago bears playoff berth is out of the question, honestly. I hope you are right. However I just don't see them doing it this year. Maybe next, but there's just too many holes right now (HB... like you said, a failed Cardinals/Buccaneers back is not the answer, WR, a few spots on the defense). I think it would take two good drafts (this year and next), good offseason moves and then the Bears would roll.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 Furthermore, opposing coaches will probably be thinking "Muhammad's the only reciever worth a shit there, let's double cover him." Perfect opportunity for another player to make a big step-up. Last season, everyone was either groaning in pain in a cast on the sidelines, or just didn't have the opportunity. As long as Jonathan Quinn isn't allowed on a green field with numbers ever again, the Bears will survive. Worst fucking quarterback I've ever seen play professional football. Worse than Kordell.
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