The latest twist in the Schiavo case.......

[Guest Loss]

I can see both sides of this issue quite clearly, to a point where I'm still not sure where I stand. I do agree with Bush's sentiment that it's better to err on the side of life, but I also think that keeping her alive is unmitigated selfishness on the part of the parents. Legally, the courts made the right decision. Ethically, I'm not so sure.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

hmm.. i'm not really too sure if there's a resemblance.

I tested my resemblance theory on a few people before posting and they all agreed so pft.

 

Well, might as well get a death pool going. I'll take Easter Sunday...

[Boon 0]

hmm.. i'm not really too sure if there's a resemblance.

I tested my resemblance theory on a few people before posting and they all agreed so pft.

 

Well, might as well get a death pool going. I'll take Easter Sunday...

The Christian day to celebrate Christ rising from the dead?

 

Seems a little ironic, don't you think?

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

File this under "Bad Plans":

 

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/na...ation-headlines

 

Man Tries to Steal Gun to 'Rescue Schiavo'

By Associated Press

March 25, 2005

 

SEMINOLE, Fla. -- A man was arrested after trying to steal a weapon from a gun shop so he could "take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo," authorities said.

 

Michael W. Mitchell, of Rockford, Ill., entered Randall's Firearms Inc. in Seminole just before 6 p.m. Thursday with a box cutter and tried to steal a gun, said Marianne Pasha, a spokeswoman for the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office.

 

Mitchell, 50, told deputies he wanted to "take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo" after he visited the Pinellas Park hospice where she lives, Pasha said.

 

The feeding tube that has kept Schiavo alive for more than a decade was removed March 18 over objections from her parents. Schiavo's husband has said his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially.

 

Doctors have said she would probably die within a week or two of the tube being pulled.

 

Randy McKenzie, the owner of Randall's Firearms, said Mitchell pulled out the box cutter and broke the glass on a couple of display cases.

 

"He told me if I wasn't on Terri's side then I wasn't on God's side, either," McKenzie told The Associated Press.

 

McKenzie said he then pointed his own gun at Mitchell and ordered him to lie on the ground. But Mitchell fled out the store's back door before police arrived, he said.

 

Mitchell was later arrested in a parking lot and was scheduled to appear in court Friday. He was being held on $125,000 bond on charges of attempted armed robbery, aggravated assault and criminal mischief, officials said.

 

It was not known if he had a lawyer.

 

Seminole is about 5 miles west of Pinellas Park.

 

Robbing a gun store with a box cutter = dumb as hell

[Guest MikeSC]

The guy is an idiot.

 

At this point, the damage done to Terri due to being intentionally starved and denied water has probably made her already bad situation even worse. Even if they reattached the tube today, the damage done to her is likely impossible to calculate.

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Michael Schiavo-related story:

 

http://www.freep.com/news/nw/schiavo24e_20050324.htm

 

Michael Schiavo, 41, is the youngest of five boys. Six-foot-seven, athletic and model-handsome, he met Terri Schindler at Bucks County Community College near Philadelphia in 1982.

 

I never realized he was so tall

 

So, intrepret this story however you wish

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

I think they need to let her die but others....

 

 

I Thirst

By Judith Moriarty

[email protected]

3-24-5

 

 

Good Friday:

 

"After this Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the scripture), 'I thirst.' A bowl of vinegar stood there; so they put a sponge full of the vinegar on hyssop and held it to his mouth". John 19:28-29

 

A woman named Terri Schiavo, has become, in these past weeks the focus of partisan politics, judges in black robes playing at high priest, a philandering husband, claiming that he alone holds Terri's best interests at heart, and an anguishing family; watching at this modern day crucifixion, their child being starved to death before the whole world. And in the whole world, there is not one who, or so we are led to believe, that can rescue Terri from this slow agonizing death. Men, who in other times; command entire armies, fleets of ships, and the authority to proclaim war, are now seemingly impotent?

 

And what say the crowds in this macabre Florida Golgotha? If the polls are to be believed they shout, "Crucify her"! There are always the crowds. Titillated by the sensational, the bizarre, the obscene, the drama of life's events; they riot at sports events, scream at concerts, riot over verdicts, or act as judge and jury at life's tragedies-from a distance. Pilate meanwhile washes his hands of the whole sordid affair, and proclaims, "I am innocent of the blood of this just person" Matthew 27:24-25. Life is replete with its Pilates' who wash their hands of other's blood. The President rushed from his ranch and the politician's from their states to partake in this mimed theater of heroic compassion!

 

 

 

Terri's Bone Scan - 'Patient

Has History Of Trauma'

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http://www.cnsnews.com/storyimages/2003/te...escanreport.jpg

 

 

Terri Schiavo Is

In The Bible Code

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Terri Schiavo

 

The killing of

 

The priests

 

They are making a sin offering

 

Exhausted she died

 

http://exodus2006.com/fab/terri.htm

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Conversation with Terri the Veggie years ago

[SuperJerk 0]

While I shed no tears about the death of Koresh, she is apparently a part of the school of thought where the ATF agents ended up doing something idiotic, like storming the compound, when they could have arrested Koresh when he went into town --- which he did frequently.

"Let's not arrest this guy stockpiling illegal weapons, let's just wait for him to go out then arrest him...ignoring the need to also arrest his accomplices and collecting additional evidence that we could have used against him in court."

 

Ann Coulter wouldn't last 5 minutes as a law enforcement officer.

[Vyce 0]

While I shed no tears about the death of Koresh, she is apparently a part of the school of thought where the ATF agents ended up doing something idiotic, like storming the compound, when they could have arrested Koresh when he went into town --- which he did frequently.

"Let's not arrest this guy stockpiling illegal weapons, let's just wait for him to go out then arrest him...ignoring the need to also arrest his accomplices and collecting additional evidence that we could have used against him in court."

 

Ann Coulter wouldn't last 5 minutes as a law enforcement officer.

Then again, the gross mishandling of the Waco situation by the government led to the death of many innocent individuals, including children, so I don't much care where the criticism of the ATF is coming from - it's well deserved.

[SuperJerk 0]

I don't agree. I blame the Branch Davidians for the death of their children. They could have left the compound after the fire started.

[Guest MikeSC]

While I shed no tears about the death of Koresh, she is apparently a part of the school of thought where the ATF agents ended up doing something idiotic, like storming the compound, when they could have arrested Koresh when he went into town --- which he did frequently.

"Let's not arrest this guy stockpiling illegal weapons, let's just wait for him to go out then arrest him...ignoring the need to also arrest his accomplices and collecting additional evidence that we could have used against him in court."

 

Ann Coulter wouldn't last 5 minutes as a law enforcement officer.

"Let's, rather than arrest him when he's AWAY from a bunch of kids, attack him and shoot guns WITH KIDS RIGHT THERE!!"

 

Yeah, solid planning.

-=Mike

..Jesus Christ was Janet Reno ever a useless twat...

[2GOLD 0]

While I shed no tears about the death of Koresh, she is apparently a part of the school of thought where the ATF agents ended up doing something idiotic, like storming the compound, when they could have arrested Koresh when he went into town --- which he did frequently.

"Let's not arrest this guy stockpiling illegal weapons, let's just wait for him to go out then arrest him...ignoring the need to also arrest his accomplices and collecting additional evidence that we could have used against him in court."

 

Ann Coulter wouldn't last 5 minutes as a law enforcement officer.

"Let's, rather than arrest him when he's AWAY from a bunch of kids, attack him and shoot guns WITH KIDS RIGHT THERE!!"

 

Yeah, solid planning.

-=Mike

..Jesus Christ was Janet Reno ever a useless twat...

 

In the end, his followers would have probably committed mass suicide once he was arrest. It was poorly handled but there was no way that was going to end well.

[Guest MikeSC]

Perhaps --- but you don't try a sneak attack when the people KNOW you're coming, which the Davidians did.

 

You don't do something to protect kids by firing ammo into a building FULL of kids.

 

Koresh was, regularly, outside of his compound in town. It was not like he NEVER left.

-=Mike

[2GOLD 0]

Yeah, running a sneak attack live on the news had to be the stupidest thing you could possibly do. And if anything, they should have nabbed Koresh and hit the complex when it didn't have the leader.

 

Still would have death, but I doubt the joint burns to the ground.

 

It was extremely poorly handled, no argument from me. But I don't think it would have ended well anyway. Bad work but it was the FBI involved in a hostage situation. I'm yet to see an FBI hostage situation where it's not "ok, let's rush in and kill the guy".

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

The latest Schiavo-related arrest:

 

Fairview man charged in Schiavo bounty plot

By Rebeccah Cantley-Falk

and Lindsay Nash

 

STAFF WRITERS

 

published: March 26, 2005 6:00 am

FAIRVIEW — A man accused of placing a bounty on the head of Michael Schiavo and on a judge who recently denied a request to reinsert Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube was arrested Friday in Buncombe County.

 

Richard Alan Meywes of Fairview was charged in a federal complaint in the Middle District of Florida, according to a news release from the FBI in Tampa, Fla. He is charged with murder for hire and the transmission of interstate threatening communications.

 

No one answered the door at Meywes’ large rustic home with wooden siding at 18 Mission St. in Fairview on Friday evening. On the door a sticker read “FDNY (Fire Department of New York City) remembered.”

 

Meywes is registered as an unaffiliated voter in Buncombe County whose voting record goes back to the 1992 general election, according to the N.C. State Board of Elections Web site.

 

He has written letters to the editor at the Asheville Citizen-Times, the most recent on March 14, in which he talked about his distaste for some local media coverage.

 

The day after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Meywes weighed in with a letter about his sorrow over the terrorism:

 

“I woke up this morning after working 28 hours over the last two days to be completely shocked over the news of terrorists attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. This was a very cowardly act against the United States and Americans in general. The U.S. has suffered tremendously in loss of life, our sense of security, and the freedoms we enjoy today because of the military veterans who have fought in battles past to solidify that America truly is the land of the free.”

 

The FBI and the Buncombe County Sheriff’s Department arrested Meywes Friday at his residence in Fairview, said Sara Oates, public information officer for the FBI in Tampa. He was taken into custody without incident, according to the release.

 

Oates said Meywes would have his first federal court appearance in Asheville on Monday. He was being held in the Buncombe County Detention Center on Friday night. The detention center sometimes houses federal inmates. If convicted of both crimes, Meywes faces up to 15 years in prison and fines of up to $500,000, according to the Office of the U.S. Attorney Middle District of Florida.

 

On Wednesday, the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Department in Florida forwarded an e-mail to the FBI in Tampa. In the e-mail, a $250,000 bounty was placed on the “head of Michael Schiavo.” The e-mail also placed a bounty of $50,000 on the judge who recently denied a request to intervene in the case of Terri Schiavo, a 41-year-old woman whose parents say is reaching her final hours after her feeding tube was removed at the request of her husband on March 18.

 

The e-mail also made reference to the recent death of a judge in Atlanta and the murder of a judge’s family members in Illinois, according to the news release. Oates declined to elaborate or explain the context of the references to the judges.

 

Oates said Meywes sent the e-mail from North Carolina, but she didn’t know whether it was sent from his home. She said the e-mail was sent to media outlets in Florida. Oates declined to comment on whether anyone had made plans to harm Michael Schiavo, but added that the FBI takes threats seriously.

 

“We take any threat of murder over the Internet seriously,” she said. “It doesn’t matter who they are threatening. We take it seriously.”

 

Gretchen Shappert, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, credited the success of the investigation to cooperation between federal and local law enforcement in North Carolina and Florida.

 

“Threats made in interstate commerce will not be ignored by federal law enforcement,” she said.

 

Meywes’ arrest was the result of a joint investigation by the Tampa and Charlotte offices of the FBI, the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Department and the Buncombe County Sheriff’s Department, according to the release.

[Boon 0]

Like any captivating TV sitcom, the spinoffs are less then interesting.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

the gross mishandling of the Waco situation by the government led to the death of many innocent individuals, including children, so I don't much care where the criticism of the ATF is coming from - it's well deserved.

As George Carlin said, "Hey, when a bunch of crazy religious people decide to set themselves on fire, I'm a pretty happy guy."

 

Also, you can't blame the ATF for shooting kids when Koresh was giving firearms everyone age 12 and up.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

The latest Schiavo-related arrest:

Oh. My. God.

 

Somebody frikken kill this woman already so we can get this shit off the goddamn news. People can be so fucking stupid sometimes. This is a family situation that has no business being treated the way it is by the scumfucks (politicians) and the media.

[BUTT 0]

No. While I shed no tears about the death of Koresh, she is apparently a part of the school of thought where anything the Clinton administration does is bad, no matter how vigorously she would be defending it had the Bush administration done it.

Edited for accuracy.

[Henry Spencer 0]

I Thirst

By Judith Moriarty

[email protected]

3-24-5

 

 

Good Friday:

 

"After this Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the scripture), 'I thirst.' A bowl of vinegar stood there; so they put a sponge full of the vinegar on hyssop and held it to his mouth". John 19:28-29

 

A woman named Terri Schiavo, has become, in these past weeks the focus of partisan politics, judges in black robes playing at high priest, a philandering husband, claiming that he alone holds Terri's best interests at heart, and an anguishing family; watching at this modern day crucifixion, their child being starved to death before the whole world. And in the whole world, there is not one who, or so we are led to believe, that can rescue Terri from this slow agonizing death. Men, who in other times; command entire armies, fleets of ships, and the authority to proclaim war, are now seemingly impotent?

 

And what say the crowds in this macabre Florida Golgotha? If the polls are to be believed they shout, "Crucify her"! There are always the crowds. Titillated by the sensational, the bizarre, the obscene, the drama of life's events; they riot at sports events, scream at concerts, riot over verdicts, or act as judge and jury at life's tragedies-from a distance. Pilate meanwhile washes his hands of the whole sordid affair, and proclaims, "I am innocent of the blood of this just person" Matthew 27:24-25. Life is replete with its Pilates' who wash their hands of other's blood. The President rushed from his ranch and the politician's from their states to partake in this mimed theater of heroic compassion!

 

 

 

I don't understand this woman's point. According to Christian thought, isn't it a good thing that Jesus died?

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

As if enough angles aren't being played in the Schiavo case, someone decides to pipe in with "Nearly all the people fighting and protesting to keep Terri alive are white. Where are the prominent black ministers?"

 

 

 

 

 

The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, president of the Los Angeles-based Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, noted the absence of black Christians in the debate.

"Nearly all the people fighting and protesting to keep Terri alive are white. Where are the prominent black ministers?" he asked.

"We don't see them because they're looking at this as a race issue, rather than as a moral one. Blacks, especially Christians, should stop looking at this issue through the prism of race. The battle is between people who are for life versus those who favor death."

[BUTT 0]

The guy who said that is black.

[2GOLD 0]

Wait, by being against letting her stomach acids eat her to death, I'm with the right to life people?

 

.....

 

Let it die.

[Vyce 0]

Waittaminute.....where ARE the black ministers in all of this?

 

I find if MIGHTY suspicious that they're keeping mum over this white woman's death.

 

Reverse racism at work. It sickens me.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

I don't agree. I blame the Branch Davidians for the death of their children. They could have left the compound after the fire started.

It wouldn't have been so bad, except that the news reporters were closer to the action than the Fire & Rescue squads. If the FBI/ATF thought anything foul was going to go on, they should have had F&R standing by right there, and not a few miles away like they were.

[SuperJerk 0]

I don't agree.  I blame the Branch Davidians for the death of their children.  They could have left the compound after the fire started.

It wouldn't have been so bad, except that the news reporters were closer to the action than the Fire & Rescue squads. If the FBI/ATF thought anything foul was going to go on, they should have had F&R standing by right there, and not a few miles away like they were.

Yes, let's put the Fire Department and paramedics in a position where's they're in danger of being shot by those loonies.

 

If those dumb fuckers would have just surrendered and came out LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, they wouldn't have burned to death.

 

No. While I shed no tears about the death of Koresh, she is apparently a part of the school of thought where anything the Clinton administration does is bad, no matter how vigorously she would be defending it had the Bush administration done it.

Edited for accuracy.

 

Thank you!

[BUTT 0]

That's not to say that liberals wouldn't be complaining if the Bush administration had done what was done in Waco, but to me it seems like a lot of the "outrage" on the part of conservatives over the deaths of Koresh's followers was all acting on their part to try to mobilize the anti-Clinton folks.

[Guest MikeSC]

That's not to say that liberals wouldn't be complaining if the Bush administration had done what was done in Waco, but to me it seems like a lot of the "outrage" on the part of conservatives over the deaths of Koresh's followers was all acting on their part to try to mobilize the anti-Clinton folks.

Except you can't find a conservative who actually has a single nice thing to say about David Koresh.

 

That's like saying anybody who thinks the fire-bombing of Dresden might have been a bit much must've loved Hitler and not that they thought the act itself was just not a good idea.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

For anyone curious what's happening here, they tried and failed once again in court. This time, they tried to educate this braindamaged woman to say "I want to live" and then propose that the sounds “AHHHHH” and “WAAAAAAA” were interpreted as such.

 

They were denied because, well, cmon. That could interpreted as anything. Even if she was cognitive of what was happening, that could just as easily have been "I want to die" as "I want to live."