JHawk 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 So I'm rewatching WrestleMania VI today, and during Hogan-Warrior I'm listening to the crowd and hearing a 50-50 split in fan support. I remember cheering Hogan at my local CCTV location that day (was never a fan of Warrior's once he went from Dingo to Ultimate), and I grew up being the biggest Hulkamaniac out there. So it got me thinking about when I started hating Hogan, and it dawned on me: 1993. I was getting off the bandwagon when Flair first came into the WWF in 1991 because I was a huge Flair fan, but I didn't hate Hogan. Fast forward two years. When Hogan came back and got the belt at WrestleMania IX, it didn't bother me (if Fuji was stupid enough to issue the challenge, then screw it). But then it came time for title defenses. Title defenses that weren't coming. Bear in mind I had access to both Cleveland and Youngstown's syndicated TV, and Youngstown would often give lineups for Pittsburgh as well, and I never saw Hogan's name even on a card, much less defending the title. But lo and behold, there's the World Champion in Orlando taping the pilot for Thunder and Paradise rather than wrestling...or Hogan's version of it, anyway. I was still rooting for Hogan at King of the Ring that year (I hated the Yokozuna push that much), but it certainly didn't break my heart when he disappeared shortly after that. So how about you guys? When did you former Hulkamaniacs become anti-Hulkamania? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Honestly, I can't think of a single time I was ever a fan, but I don't remember really hating him, either. When I was little between 1991-1992, I always liked Bret Hart, Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, and Undertaker among others. Although, back in that day, I was only 4-5 years old, so it was hard to follow the storylines and TV schedules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I've never hated him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Never did, although I wasn't too thrilled he was wrestling for WCW instead, but thats a little silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I have never nor will ever hate Hogan. If anyone is a wrestling God then its Hulk Hogan. If Hogan were to get another run in the WWE I would think its great if he won the title again and kept it until he retired. God Bless you Hulk Hogan. We love you. All of us. Even these silly people here who say they hate you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted March 20, 2005 OK, don't get carried away tbond... people have a right to their own opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 OK, don't get carried away tbond... people have a right to their own opinion. Of corse they have the right to there own opinion....still though you know its true. Everyone loves Hogan & those who say they dont are closet Hogan fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Stupid Double Post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I was never a big Hogan fan, but I was displeased with him after Royal Rumble 1992 when he pulled Sid out, and I despised him after Wrestlemania IX. Before Rumble 1992 I pretty much just ignored him. I like him better now than I ever did as a kid. I don't mean it in that I want to see Hogan wrestling again, but that I enjoy his 80s/early 90s work a lot more than I used to. As a kid I hated Hogan/Slaughter, but I actually enjoy it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 About the 2nd time, I saw him. Thought he was a cheesy steroid popper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Decadent Slacker Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I have no issue with Hulk Hogan. I was a Hulkamaniac, & still am in a lot of ways. He just can attract people, & has provided me with a ton of great memories. Terry Bollea, however, can fuck off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spman 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I started hating Hogan from the last 10 minutes of Wrestlemania 9 untill Bash at the Beach 1996, at which point he re-established in my eyes his godliness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominator89 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I have to agree with everyone who said Wrestlemania IX. I didn't hate him then, but even as a mark I felt as though it was his time to allow younger wrestlers to move up the card. Bash at the Beach 1996 was cool since his turn made sense, but after that he went back to the defeating everyone in his path routine which got boring really quick. I was okay with his last WWE run since he actually jobbed a few times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I always hated Hogan. I am no workrate fanatic, but even in the markiest of my mark days I noticed that he didn't actually do much, and he was a complete spotlight hog. I always will hate Hogan, unless he one day swings around my house and delivers a cheque for a million bucks. Then I might like him. Maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Never was a huge fan but never hated him. I usually don't hate in wrestling, except Vince McMahon and Jerry Lawler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I never hated him, but I started not liking him during the feud with the Ultimate Warrior and I've never liked him since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Should we perhaps establish here whether we're talking about Hulk Hogan, the character, vs. Terry Bollea? As Slacker says, he likes Hogan, but Bollea can fuck off. I didn't like Hogan to begin with, and when I learned about his backstage horseshit it got much worse. So how many people like Hogan the performer, vs Bollea the person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I never hated him, but he became stale around the time of the Earthquake feud. I always thought after the Warrior program, he could have at least made a few slight adjustments to his character and maybe do a few different things, but obviously he stayed on the same course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I started disliking him when he was feuding with Undertaker and Sid, I didn't understand what was so "bad" about what Sid did at Royal Rumble 92(Hogan did it to Savage and Warrior) and Undertaker was to cool to hate. Edit: I also like him far better now than I did as a kid having seen some of his Mid 80s stuff on tape which we never got to see over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I started disliking him when he was feuding with Undertaker and Sid, I didn't understand what was so "bad" about what Sid did at Royal Rumble 92(Hogan did it to Savage and Warrior) Hogan doing it to Savage and Warrior was by accident. Sid did it on purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I cant believe how many people her dislike Hogan. You should all be ashamed! Dont worry Hulk you can always count on me to be a Hulkamaniac! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I've never hated him. Quote. Submit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Being an evil kid/teenager and major heel mark while growing up, I hated the "goody goody" say-your-prayers-take-your-vitamins Hogan. until he did the big nWo turn, at which point I immediately became a fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Should we perhaps establish here whether we're talking about Hulk Hogan, the character, vs. Terry Bollea? As Slacker says, he likes Hogan, but Bollea can fuck off. I was talking about the Hulk Hogan character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I started hating Hogan when he refused to ever pass the torch to Bret Hart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I've never liked Hulk Hogan, but I didn't start to dislike/hate him until he refused to acknowledge his time was up and step down. I've never liked Terry Bollea either. And why is it assumed that everyone just had to be a fan of his at some point ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 When Thunder Lips beat up Rocky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I never stopped being a Hulkamaniac! He was the man in WWE when I started watched it and I remember trading, like, 20 other stickers just to get the Hulk Hogan ‘cupped hand’ one lol. People talk about his ego, but it’s no less than any other big draw and anyway, what the funk has it got to do with us, the fans, as to what goes on backstage? I watched WCW for a while when he formed the New World Order, but stopped completely around 1998. Then when he came back to WWE and recaptured the WWE Championship, it was like being back in time. Hogan ruled, there will never be another like him. Just remember how popular he was when he came back and listen to the ovation he gets at WrestleMania 21. The IWC may hate Hogan but the fans, the real fans, still cheer the house down for Hogan and give him the respect he deserves. Without Hogan, chances are none of us would be posting here because WWE wouldn't be around, nay, Mainstream Wrestling wouldn't be around; April 3rd, Hulkamania will once again be in full swing...BROTHER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I never stopped being a Hulkamaniac! He was the man in WWE when I started watched it and I remember trading, like, 20 other stickers just to get the Hulk Hogan ‘cupped hand’ one lol. People talk about his ego, but it’s no less than any other big draw and anyway, what the funk has it got to do with us, the fans, as to what goes on backstage? I watched WCW for a while when he formed the New World Order, but stopped completely around 1998. Then when he came back to WWE and recaptured the WWE Championship, it was like being back in time. Hogan ruled, there will never be another like him. Just remember how popular he was when he came back and listen to the ovation he gets at WrestleMania 21. The IWC may hate Hogan but the fans, the real fans, still cheer the house down for Hogan and give him the respect he deserves. Without Hogan, chances are none of us would be posting here because WWE wouldn't be around, nay, Mainstream Wrestling wouldn't be around; April 3rd, Hulkamania will once again be in full swing...BROTHER! ...and anyway, what the funk has it got to do with us, the fans, as to what goes on backstage? This type of line always gets a laugh out of me. What the goings on backstage have to do with fans is when they actively affect the product you watch on tv and a the arenas. I'm not just talking about whether this guy or that guy gets a push, but when the politics affects the product as a whole. Remember, if you were around then, when, in 1994-1995, WCW turned more into a cartoon-like WWF show ? Why do you think that happened ? Tons of stuff goes on backstage that fans should be worried about, because, whether they like to admit it or not, it directly affects the overall product, and can make things less entertaining or interesting for them. The IWC may hate Hogan but the fans, the real fans, still cheer the house down for Hogan and give him the respect he deserves. What sanctimonious crap. People aren't real fans because they hate Hogan ? Maybe they just don't like the political games he's played over the years. Ever think about that ? Maybe they just don't like the bullshit he's pulled over the years. And the respect line is laughable. Does he deserve respect ? Sure, but not blind hero worship to where his less honorable actions get ignored and brushed under the carpet. I can like what someone has done for wrestling, and I can appreciate their contributions, but that in no way means I have to respect them. Without Hogan, chances are none of us would be posting here because WWE wouldn't be around Maybe in its current form, but to even suggest that without Hogan there would no WWE is beyond idiotic. Suggestion mainstream wrestling wouldn't be around is even more silly. McMahon would have found someone to make his promotional superman, even if it wasn't Hogan, and while things might not have become as big with whoever it might have been, with Vince's promotional mind, things still would have gone mainstream, because that's the direction the business was going in anyway. Hogan just made it monster huge. It still would have gotten big without him, even if it wasn't at the level it got to with Hogan. April 3rd, Hulkamania will once again be in full swing...BROTHER! And by April 4th, it'll have dislocated a hip. Hogan is running on nostalgia fumes, and the longer he stays around with each visit the less he means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted March 20, 2005 This type of line always gets a laugh out of me. What the goings on backstage have to do with fans is when they actively affect the product you watch on tv and a the arenas. I'm not just talking about whether this guy or that guy gets a push, but when the politics affects the product as a whole. Remember, if you were around then, when, in 1994-1995, WCW turned more into a cartoon-like WWF show ? Why do you think that happened ? Tons of stuff goes on backstage that fans should be worried about, because, whether they like to admit it or not, it directly affects the overall product, and can make things less entertaining or interesting for them. It’s funny, because it was around that time WCW began killing WWE in the ratings. Real bad move that. Yes, some things affect the on-screen product (HHH) but someone demanding more money or time off has nothing to do with us. You’re not going to have Soap fans complaining if the main star what’s more money. If the star goes, they go; that’s wrestling. What sanctimonious crap. People aren't real fans because they hate Hogan ? Maybe they just don't like the political games he's played over the years. Ever think about that ? Maybe they just don't like the bullshit he's pulled over the years. And the respect line is laughable. Does he deserve respect ? Sure, but not blind hero worship to where his less honorable actions get ignored and brushed under the carpet. I can like what someone has done for wrestling, and I can appreciate their contributions, but that in no way means I have to respect them. Who said people aren’t real fans for hating Hogan? Maybe you should read more carefully before blowing one on the net. I personally believe real fans to be those watch and enjoy the show, not those who go on the internet to complain about everything. I think the majority of the IWC fit into the later, therefore, I don’t class that majority as real fans. That’s my opinion. Maybe in its current form, but to even suggest that without Hogan there would no WWE is beyond idiotic. Suggestion mainstream wrestling wouldn't be around is even more silly. McMahon would have found someone to make his promotional superman, even if it wasn't Hogan, and while things might not have become as big with whoever it might have been, with Vince's promotional mind, things still would have gone mainstream; because that's the direction the business was going in anyway. Hogan just made it monster huge. It still would have gotten big without him, even if it wasn't at the level it got to with Hogan. Claiming someone’s views are idiotic is extremely childish. Hulk Hogan is the most popular man in Professional wrestling history, and he made his gimmick that way. He and Vince moulded that character and that character went on to put Professional wrestling in the public eye, which lead to WrestleMania. Hulk Hogan made the business big, in terms of capital, which made it possible to afford big shows like WrestleMania which helped develop Professional wrestling’s image among casual viewers and fans. Without Hulk Hogan the business would never have become mainstream, no one (i.e. Ted Turner) would have seem the potential in the industry and Professional wrestling would more than likely still be a travelling circus. And by April 4th, it'll have dislocated a hip. Hogan is running on nostalgia fumes, and the longer he stays around with each visit the less he means. Less he means to you, which is only an opinion. I think you're clearly outnumbered on this subject when you listen to the pops Hogan got in his last run, and when he is introduced at WrestleMania 21. I guess you’ll just have to turn the sound down. Most fans cheer Hogan because he entertained them for years, other just act like they were somehow backstage and have a right to comment on Hogan's Backstage behaviour based on things they've read. People need to realise they are fans and nothing more. Hogan entertained the fans, it's as simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites