Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Has any President had as much advocating of his assassination than has Pres. Bush? I don't remember T-shirts (item now removed), art exhibits, or books dedicated to the assassination of any President in recent history. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Who cares? To add to that, the age of the internet is different since it's much easier for a person to spread their views, which would explain why anyone can publish a book like that or make a shirt. Bush lives in a different time, and he's a polarizing figure to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Kennedy probably had more. You have people either crying or cheering when he got shot. He just wasn't very popular so I'd imagine people wanted him dead on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Lincoln was probably more of a marked man than Bush is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Rutherford B. Hayes had a lot of people advocating his assassination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Kennedy probably had more. You have people either crying or cheering when he got shot. He just wasn't very popular so I'd imagine people wanted him dead on a regular basis. In the words of Grandpa. "Too bad they didn't get the whole damn family". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Who cares? To add to that, the age of the internet is different since it's much easier for a person to spread their views, which would explain why anyone can publish a book like that or make a shirt. Bush lives in a different time, and he's a polarizing figure to begin with. You should. This is the coarsening of American politics and it's a very bad omen for the future. Rather than try and win politically, far too many on the left (who are supposed to oppose such nonsense) are all for killing Pres. Bush. How many conservatives advocated killing Clinton? Not bloody many. And you certainly didn't see books, T-shirts, or art exhibits advocating it. Kennedy probably had more. You have people either crying or cheering when he got shot. He just wasn't very popular so I'd imagine people wanted him dead on a regular basis. Can you name a single book advocating it? A single piece of art advocating or celebrating it? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Let them. I think it's funny. Oh, and like Vern said, I'm sure Lincoln wasn't too liked by quite a few Americans. Although I'm more interested in what songs are on W's iPod... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I can't imagine that anybody would have cheered when Kennedy was shot. That's inhuman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I can't imagine that anybody would have cheered when Kennedy was shot. That's inhuman. But you know people would if Bush was. -=Mike ...Pres. Bush: Breaking the 20-year death/assassination attempt streak in the US Presidency... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 You're basing this on absolutely nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I can't imagine that anybody would have cheered when Kennedy was shot. That's inhuman. But you know people would if Bush was. Absolutely, and that's fucked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Kennedy probably had more. You have people either crying or cheering when he got shot. He just wasn't very popular so I'd imagine people wanted him dead on a regular basis. Can you name a single book advocating it? A single piece of art advocating or celebrating it? -=Mike The books, no one probably had time to outline one cause he was dead and gone quickly. By then, the nutty conspiracy books were into production. Not to mention I doubt any publishers would have been in the mood to print a book about killing someone who was already dead. Be kinda stupid. As for art, that world has changed dramatically since then. Now, anything can be art. When a signed toilet can go for a couple of grand, I don't pay as much attention to the art world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 13, 2005 You're basing this on absolutely nothing. Except books, web sites, art exhibits... -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I'm sure there were some. However, there wasn't an Internet to see the streaming video, etc. All we got was some hippie saying "Kennedy was shot -- waah..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Is Bush really that polarizing? If you think so, tell us why. And I think that stuff like this stamp will lead to some kind of civil war by 2025. And it isn't Bush or neoconservatives who will cause it...it's guys like Dean who claim to "hate" Republicans and call them evil. It'd be like having Coulter as our party leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 The people who want Bush shot obviously aren't thinking straight. Do you really want President Cheney? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 The book doesn't seem to be advocating it, at least based on that article. "Much of Checkpoint mimics leftist myopia so deftly that I felt sure it was meant as intentional parody." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I can't imagine that anybody would have cheered when Kennedy was shot. That's inhuman. My junior high speech teacher told me a chilling story about the class he was teaching on November 22, 1963... when it was announced over the intercom that President Kennedy was shot, the faces of most of the children in the class lit up "as if Christmas came early" ... and when the announcement came that he had died, the class erupted in cheers. The incident deeply disturbed him... He was teaching in Texas, though I'm not sure what city. Kennedy was deeply loathed in the South... afterall, to quote a phrase I've heard all to often... "He was a nigger lover" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 How much of this advocating of killing Bush isn't just people talking shit? Face it Mike, people hate that guy. Or should I say... a very large number of people do not feel about Bush and/or conservatives as you do. No matter what he does or says he will be hated. For his beliefs, his statements, and most importantly his actions. He pisses people off! So if some blowhard wants to talk trash about this or that so what! It's not like anybody is gonna get near the guy. It's not like after Bush was declared the winner that there was rioting in the streets from the libs as you feared pre-election. This is just an act on your part. Take a pill. Me, I am indifferent even if somebody DID manage to get him. It'd be the same for Clinton or anybody else who is president. Since I have really never had somebody I could declare as MY candidate I wouldn't shed a tear for any of these assholes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Damn, Cheesala, you gotta quit bringing dat der logic into CE! Oh, and the explosion of pro-death sentiment is caused by 1.Bush's amazing ability to piss off millions of people just by existing, and 2.the Age Of Dat Der Internet, as was previously explained. An aggressive leader will always have people who wish him ill, and all our bright & shiny new technology has given them the chance to express their opinions in increasing numbers and increasingly bizarre fashion, as technology tends to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Is Bush really that polarizing? If you think so, tell us why. And I think that stuff like this stamp will lead to some kind of civil war by 2025. John Titor has the civil war coming up soon. And it isn't Bush or neoconservatives who will cause it...it's guys like Dean who claim to "hate" Republicans and call them evil. It'd be like having Coulter as our party leader. If the next civil war is one without states seceding, it'll probably be the largest civil war of that kind in our history. And I don't buy the "Howard Dean is a wild-eyed evil man who will cause a civil war" stuff. If anything causes a civil war, it'll be the extremes in the political realm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Bush is polarizing because people don't like him. He's had a mediocre approval rating, especially considering he had the wave of 9/11 patriotism going for him. Clinton had kick-ass approval ratings. People liked him. And to preempt the logical response, Bush won because Kerry was awful. People also cannot get over the 2000 elections. Conservatives would have been just as steamed if it had been Bush in that second slot on the butterfly ballot. The 2000 elections were ruined by general incompetence, not 'stolen' but either side coming out on the losing end was going to lose its shit. I doubt there's been a single president who hasn't had multiple Secret Service investigations into death threats. However, people REALLY don't like Bush, the right-wing bloggers are very good at picking these things out (remember the Hitler/Moveon stuff, when it was like 2 out of 1000's of submitted videos?), and just a general resentment in politics. Listen to any right or left-wing radio show, and you'll hear the word fascist and Hitler bandied about so much it'll make you sick. BOTH sides are guilty of this, and people need to grow the fuck up in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Hey, that was pretty good for somebody "special". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Damn, Cheesala, you gotta quit bringing dat der logic into CE! Just when I thought I had read it all. (Although I do agree with his general point about not caring about what some pseudo-hippie thinks of W...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 As much as I hate Bush, I don't exactly want him dead. If you do, then you either 1.) Really need psychiatric help, or 2.) He molested you as a child (and I doubt he did that) I just think wishing the President to be dead is a bit extreme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 One thing I don't get about these pseudo-hippies wanting W dead is that if he does get two in the head (but not in the heart because conservatives don't have one -- I made a funny, lol) then that means DICK CHENEY will rule the world (as if he doesn't already -- wow, 2 for 2, the Pirates could use my batting skillz.) Forgive me, but I'm so on drugs right now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Well, Cheney's such a prick there'd likely be a Dem in the White House next time. It would make for a good show, though. He'd eventually get pissed enough at a press conference that a vein in his head would pop, showering the audience with blood while he screamed "FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU!" And he'd eventually give someone little like Kucinich a powerbomb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 And his approval ratings would probably go up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Well, Cheney's such a prick there'd likely be a Dem in the White House next time. It would make for a good show, though. He'd eventually get pissed enough at a press conference that a vein in his head would pop, showering the audience with blood while he screamed "FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU!" And he'd eventually give someone little like Kucinich a powerbomb. Please, the dems would find a way to even piss that one down their leg. I've given up on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites