What's the deal w/ Bill Frist?

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Wait for it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep you guessed it:

 

[Vyce 0]

I don't know which is the least funny thing I've ever read, that Frist caricature or that Tom Tomorrow cartoon.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Do you even know what the cartoon is referring to?

[Vyce 0]

Do you even know what the cartoon is referring to?

Yes.

 

Still not funny.

[The Czech Republic 0]

There's no proof that homosexuality is genetic.

I thought scientists had found some gay gene, or some difference in brain activity that accounts for homosexuality. I read about it in psychology last year, but I don't think it's really conclusive or even proven yet.

[Guest MikeSC]

There's no proof that homosexuality is genetic.

I thought scientists had found some gay gene, or some difference in brain activity that accounts for homosexuality. I read about it in psychology last year, but I don't think it's really conclusive or even proven yet.

No, there's no definitive genetic link proven as of yet.

-=Mike

[Special K 0]

Genetic or not, it's common sense that it's not something one can turn off.

[Guest MikeSC]

Genetic or not, it's common sense that it's not something one can turn off.

"Common sense" is not "proof".

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Yet, if they discriminate based on, oh, sexual orientation --- THAT'D be horrible.

 

True, they might bring that "gay stuff" to the bench...

I've never heard of fundamentalist gays and born-again gays, but hey it's your crazy little imaginative world, we're only living in it.

 

Except that, like it or not, the Senate is WILLFULLY ignoring its Constitutional mandate to "advise and consent".

 

If they REFUSE to do so, they should be stripped of the power.

Although I actually do see your concern, that's just part of the process. It's like bitching that hung juries make trials by jury useless.

 

And the Democrats hate the concept of majority rule and are seeking to kill it.

Then it will only serve to bite them in the ass when things shift and they're the majority.

Well, the Dems used to be ALL for judges getting floor votes, even if they lost in committee.

(...)the exact thing people like YOU used to bitch about.

I'm tired of "people like you" arguements. Stop it with "people like me" and address the point directly.

There's no proof that homosexuality is genetic.

There is suggestive evidence, but you're right that there is no definitive proof.

 

However, it's never been suggested that religion was anything but a concious personal choice made with oneself and, if a such a being is involved, God.

 

 

Keep in mind anyway that I don't have any problem with religions on the whole and someday I may find myself interested in one. I am running extremely low on patience, however, with religions that either (A) have a being beyond existance who tells you what to do and not to do, or (B) tells you that it's okay to raise hell and make war to extend the reaches of your religion. That's accounts for pretty much the majority in this country and the middle east.

[Guest MikeSC]

Yet, if they discriminate based on, oh, sexual orientation --- THAT'D be horrible.

 

True, they might bring that "gay stuff" to the bench...

I've never heard of fundamentalist gays and born-again gays, but hey it's your crazy little imaginative world, we're only living in it.

I've never heard of Christian judges ignoring the Constitution to pass "Christian" law --- but I'm sure it's happened in your fantasy world.

 

As for militant homosexuals, try dealing with gay groups on college campuses...

Except that, like it or not, the Senate is WILLFULLY ignoring its Constitutional mandate to "advise and consent".

 

If they REFUSE to do so, they should be stripped of the power.

Although I actually do see your concern, that's just part of the process. It's like bitching that hung juries make trials by jury useless.

No, hung juries are simply a part of jury trials.

 

A filibuster is the Senate REFUSING to advise or consent.

 

If they won't do so, then they have opted to sacrifice their right.

And the Democrats hate the concept of majority rule and are seeking to kill it.

Then it will only serve to bite them in the ass when things shift and they're the majority.

The Dems see the writing on the wall and know that it is not happening anytime soon.

Well, the Dems used to be ALL for judges getting floor votes, even if they lost in committee.

(...)the exact thing people like YOU used to bitch about.

I'm tired of "people like you" arguements. Stop it with "people like me" and address the point directly.

Fine --- like YOU used to bitch about.

There's no proof that homosexuality is genetic.

There is suggestive evidence, but you're right that there is no definitive proof.

 

However, it's never been suggested that religion was anything but a concious personal choice made with oneself and, if a such a being is involved, God.

And until you can prove otherwise, homosexuality is simply a choice.

Keep in mind anyway that I don't have any problem with religions on the whole and someday I may find myself interested in one. I am running extremely low on patience, however, with religions that either (A) have a being beyond existance who tells you what to do and not to do, or (B) tells you that it's okay to raise hell and make war to extend the reaches of your religion. That's accounts for pretty much the majority in this country and the middle east.

Care to explain when a Christian said war was OK? Note that the Vatican OPPOSED the war in Iraq. Christianity and Judaism ABHOR war. True, Islam doesn't abhor war, but still.

 

But, we're not, you know, a theocracy.

-=Mike

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Care to explain when a Christian said war was OK? Note that the Vatican OPPOSED the war in Iraq. Christianity and Judaism ABHOR war. True, Islam doesn't abhor war, but still.

As I read it, he's applying (A) to Chritianity, not both (A) and (B) (due to the "or" between the 2 cases).

[Jobber of the Week 0]

As for militant homosexuals, try dealing with gay groups on college campuses...

I'm a believer that people on college campuses should never be compared to people in the real world. If you don't believe me, examine how almost every news story that involves the phrase "College Republicans" involves some stupid media stunt that makes the lefties LOL and the righties hang their head. If those were representative of mainstream Republicans, the party would have 80% more idiots.

 

The Dems see the writing on the wall and know that it is not happening anytime soon.

 

Geez, you act like they get outvoted 70-30 in every race.

 

And until you can prove otherwise, homosexuality is simply a choice.

There's evidence to the contrary. On the other hand, since Biblical times, God has threaten to smite those who choose not to believe.

 

 

(why do I feel we've had that debate before?)

 

Care to explain when a Christian said war was OK?

Islam and Christianity both have quite a bit of blood on their hands, although the former is the only one still doing morally reprehinsible acts in an otherwise civilized age.

 

Note that the Vatican OPPOSED the war in Iraq. Christianity and Judaism ABHOR war.

Unfortunately, I'm not a scholar on these issues so I can sit and give you specific scripture (although I tried looking up the subject in Google), but there have been times wherein the Bible encourages religious war.

 

But, we're not, you know, a theocracy.

        -=Mike

 

No, but the boat is, ever so slowly, drifting that way.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I thought we were becoming closer to the Nazis...

[Special K 0]

Laws are passed based on common sense. No one can prove gays are evil, but people still try to pass laws based on that.

Have we even isolated a blonde gene or something like that? That would seem a lot easier than a gay gene.

[SuperJerk 0]

I've never heard of Christian judges ignoring the Constitution to pass "Christian" law --- but I'm sure it's happened in your fantasy world.

 

Sure you have.

 

I'd explain, but do you really want to relive the infamous Ten Commandments thread?