Living Anglelously 2005 Feedback~!

[NYU 0]

I love the people that know how to code their stuff -- Patty, Hoff, Adam, Mascot.

 

I despise you all that don't code your stuff, forcing me to bold/italicize/picturize everything separately -- KC, I'm looking at you! And TPR, don't think you escape my wrath either.

 

Well, I don't actually despise you. But a mild dislike is definitely there.

 

Other than that, excellent show. I've only really skimmed over it at this point, but detailed feedback will be forthcoming. Just have to say offhand that I marked out like crazy for Leon Rodez and David Hasselhoff coming face-to-face once again. Finally! Someone remembers history!

 

Great show. Great graphics.

 

And damn, a great presentation too! Whoever put together the show deserves a gold medal!

Edited April 25, 2005 by NY Untouchable

[Guest Failed Mascot]

That "video" opening kicked many levels of ass. I was told KC did that and it doesn't surprise me. He's very good.

 

Skimmed all the graphics and once again Papacita delivers. I hope I never see a PPV that I'm involved with lack Papa graphics.

 

Awesome job with the lead-in. Having this for every PPV now is really great. Tony does an absolutely amazing job with it and NYU aint too shabby himself. I loved his stuff for the match that The 70s Dude was involved with and I'm sure everybody appreciated the stuff involving their characters as well.

 

I'll submit that before doing the match feedback since I know NYU is a feedback whore and wants this even though Drek wasn't involved.

[Some Guy 0]

I skimmed through most of the show but the intro was great. PK's three way was quite good. Zack/Black was really good and so was Tony/Axel. When I have more time, I'll go through the rest.

[Adam 0]

Great, great opening video, I agree Mascot, KC did an awesome job.

 

NYU's pre-show was very well done, it shows that he knows every angle very well. Good job. Papacita's done well on the graphics as well, I'm starting to miss Panther.

 

I'm glad PK won the Triple Threat, he needed to win it to start his new character off on the right foot. Very nice match, I'm loving the Prince Killings character, and how his whole gimmick is that he is basically a really, really bad wrestler.

 

Good Hoff promo, reminded me a little of The Rock in that he just took everything a step further from what the announcer was saying.

 

The white boy thing was classic.

 

The HI-YAH Tag match was good, I'm glad they made it no-DQ for both teams halfway through, so the love Docs could get the big win. How strong is our tag division?

 

A skipped through PRL's match, the pre-match was, reeeeeeeeeeeeeallly long. The match looked ok, PRL planting the brass kuckles further cemented his heel status.

 

Poor Ned. What a terrible name. The double stomp was SICK, and the match was very good, New Tag Champions, and what's in store for COD now? HI-YAH belts?

 

More to come.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

If PK wrote that nipple thing then he knows that the true nipple man is Glenn Ordway. Good match and I was expecting maybe Killings to do the job so there would be a Brock/Knight continuation but oh well. Knight gets over nicely in this by getting Brock to submit but at the same time Brock didn't just tap right away. Killings can't be long for this fed.

 

Good Hoff promo but I don't think he's like The Rock...I'd say...Berlyn! Before Hoff kills me let me say that I'm just kidding...he's really like The Wall. Honestly though he does a good promo.

 

The H-Y tag title match was just fun. Nothing real serious but nothing too goofy either which made it a good read. From squashed to actual challengers, the Love Doctors are a feel good story <3

 

more feedback later.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

After scrolling for what seemed to be forever its an Alf promo! I always find it funny how Alf goes with the cheapest ways to get heat. I would buy an Alfdogg t-shirt that featured The HAM~!

 

Tag Title Match. The opening didn't fool me!...although I did think it would be reversed into a small package or he would grope her or something. What I did however get surprised with was Coach insulting himself

 

COACH

They’re treating Krista and Alix like they’re the Lakers and Ned like he’s the Kings. As in LA Kings. Not Sacramento Kings.

 

COACH

Stick to homoerotic innuendo.

There are spots in this already where there is just far too much description. Sometime less really is more in that department. This however makes up for that

 

“I’M TALKING IN UPPER CASE LETTERS! THAT MEANS I’M MAD!” Alix bellows, still standing on the apron.

Ha! And this!

 

Neddy Bear begins to grind his “Cubby Bear” into Alix’s BUTT.

That is soooooo hot. Good match overall though and it will be interesting to see the NNMX with the tag straps. I wonder though...will there be a future match between Krista and Ned? Maybe a "Maya on a Poll" match with the winner getting custody. Who knows? Anything is possible in the WW...er, OAOAST!

 

Wow, what a funny segment with Mean Gene and The Superstar. Whomever helped Supes out due to his time restraints really kicked some ass there!

 

more feed coming

[Tony149 0]

Excellent opening -- the video package, graphics, etc. We've had some real good ones the last couple of months. I bow to KC and NYU, whose writing of Schiavone and Ventura was absolutely fantastic. I think I'll use NYU's multi-colored "BOOM BOOM BOOM" to further inhance the look of our PPVs.

 

The opening match was solid. Much better than I thought it would be after reading PK's posts.

 

Good promo from Hoff.

 

The Docs have snapped out of their funk! New champs. Not to mention a good match. The double-team tombstone spot was pretty cool and we got a BILL WATTS special appearance!

 

Like NGA said, the PR recap was a bit too long. I do give him credit, however, for his passion and being able to remember stuff he wrote months back. Sometimes I can't remember the stuff I wrote two weeks ago. But I guess that happens when you're writing for so many tag teams at a time. I did enjoy TPR's promo.

 

I like seeing Alf back. To tell you the truth, I kinda wouldn't mind seeing him in a OAOAST Title program with Axel.

 

Patty's one of my favorite writers so it's no surprise I thought COD-NNMX was pretty damn good. When COD got the belts at AP I wasn't too sold on them. I turned out to be wrong. They had one of the best tag reigns, IMO.

 

Useless tidbit: Originally the contract Alix signed was for a tag title match with custody of Maya on the line, as FM suggested in his post, but that got dropped.

 

Enjoyed the CWM-SG match, as well as Hoff-Crystal.

 

OMG! For the first time in a long time we had a graphic for the following month's PPV. I see we kept the basic design from last year. Very good.

 

Only skimmed the rest of the card, but the LMD match looked hilarious. The pics were damn funny and I was only skimming through the match. The current longest title reign in the OAOAST comes to an end. But the Dude is champ, so that's groovey.

 

Even without reading Zack-Black I'm pretty sure it was excellent.

 

I'm very pleased with my match with Axel. I couldn't help but laugh when I saw Brannigan put Axel in a Bow & Arrow. That spot was originally in the first draft of my portion of the match, but I removed that in favor of the sitting reverse chinlock.

 

NGA was great to work with, and I thank him for asking me to be his first major title defense. It was certainly different being involved in a World Title feud than a tag feud. Knowing you're involved in the biggest angle in the OAOAST, it really puts you on your toes to make sure whatever you're doing doesn't suck.

 

Unlike Backlash, which is almost certainly going to suck, the OAOAST follow-up effort to their 'Mania was very good.

 

EDIT: Job well done on the show NYU.

Edited April 25, 2005 by Tony149

[Guest Failed Mascot]

I like seeing Alf back. To tell you the truth, I kinda wouldn't mind seeing him in a OAOAST Title program with Axel.

Print up those "Alfdogg for Champ 05" shirts.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Some Guy did some job with that opening montage (I'm so punny sometimes). I wasn't here for the aWo days so it was nice seeing a few of those moments. It didn't drag either which is the most important thing. Did CWM write the first half of this match? I only ask because there are quite a few typos here already. Finished the whole thing and it was a good match that showed each guy reaching deep down. A weird way to finish things and some corny commentary here and there but I say its just "ring rust". Don't know if Some Guy wrote the whole thing on his own or if CWM helped but both guys haven't done it for awhile and I can see them only getting better once they get back into the zone. That's going to add alot of good depth to the roster too with them back.

 

Its 2 am so my feedback is done for the night.

[Hoff 0]

First of all, nice work by NYU on making everything run smoothly and naturally. It's not a HARD job, per se, but it does take effort and thought. He did well.

 

I as well have it on good record it was KC who did the opening video package, and I was impressed. Really, I liked it a lot.

 

Entertaining banter between Schiavone and "The Body," although not tough to figure out the author. But definitely up to snuff.

 

And already we're no nipples. Gross. PK did an excellent job providing triple threat action for the triple threat match, so let thine fears be assuaged. Fun match, Brock looked dominant and PK smart, although I dunno if I'm buying the Bull Nakano Special. But we'll see.

 

SOMEONE explain to me the "R" in love. Please. Damn, the Hitmen are f'ed up. Good match, and a nice twist with the HH out-and-out double teaming. I hadn't thought of that. I think it would have told a better story if Watts hadn't changed the match midstream, and that just seemed kinda screwy. It's like, the Docs did all this work to get better and prep for this, but they still can't beat HH without someone stepping in, even if he was leveling the playing field. I dunno. Got crazy at the end, which, given the nature of the match I did like. Nice to see the Docs finally pull it out, whatever the circumstances, and I really did enjoy the match.

 

Rock/Shamrock, 1998 Royal Rumble.

 

God DAMN, Alf is a dick.

 

As I start the COD/NNMX match, my Winamp just randomly put up Cold's "Stupid Girl." Coincidence? Hmm. This match...I mean, it was all right, but it was almost too wordy, too "cute." Usually I love that about Patty's writing, but it was a distraction tonight and consequently I couldn't get into the match a great deal. I dunno, maybe it's just me. If it's any consolation, I did laugh a good deal. Can't say I *liked* the result, but it will be something new, at any rate. The finish was well-done.

 

Cute Superstar bit.

 

***INTERMISSION INTERRUPTION: Malibu, I have an acoustic version of "Since You Been Gone" on my computer, if you'd like it. PM me and we'll set a time to meet on AIM. END***

 

I really liked the vid package before CWM/Some Guy. I wasn't around for ANY of it and it was cool to see the backstory. Odd trivia: I've already got a feud set up for...sometime in the future (omg welcome to the future), and I wanter to use CWM's entrance theme as the theme music for it, to set a vid package to and everything. You bastard, you ruined my life. The Somekick starting the match was cool, but the ref issuing a ten-count right then and there would have been a nice touch. The Someission outta nowhere was a cool spot, and I enjoyed this match. There wasn't a real deep psychology to it and there didn't need to be, outside of "they hate each other." Often, that's enough. Caboose coming down in spite of himself was a NICE touch, and the ending WAS actually a pretty brilliant piece of psychology. Thus far, this gets MOTN honors from moi. But I haven't read the rest yet. *dun dun dun*

 

In case anyone was wondering, CC and I co-wrote our match, and I think we did a hell of a job. I know CC had some stuff come up, but I think it came out nicely, and as always, Ms. Chick is a joy to work with.

 

I'm gonna call it a night, kids, but I'll finish this up tomorrow. I'm sure the remaining three matches are great, so there you go.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Rock/Shamrock, 1998 Royal Rumble.

I pray that Vince McMahon never reads an OAOAST show. God knows if he does he'll hit the fed up with a lawsuit over PRL blatantly ripping off copyrighted material.

[Hoff 0]

Let me just say, I don't mean to be cruel. It just sort of came out.

[alfdogg 0]

That's the first thing that popped in my head, too. Although I'm sure I've stolen spots from the WWE in the few matches I've written in the past.

[Hoff 0]

We all do it, to be fair. But I guess all I saw was PRL yet again borrowing from the Rock and it made me groan a bit.

[Hoff 0]

All right, part deux.

 

Last Man Dancing...ridiculous concept, I love it. Kool and the Gang appearing at the disco was a nice touch. And a Dallas reference? How old are you, s0n? I'm just a little way through and I've got to say I'm in shock that there's an actual GOOD MATCH developing from this. The ON-J spot had me dying, and now it's a hardcore match of all things. I loved the bit in the middle with Hasslehoff and Gary and the cars. The match heads back inside and it's simultaneously serious and funny, and I love it through and through. Interesting ending...we'll see if anything comes of it on Thursday. Anyway, great match, to my very genuine surprise. Definitely steals MOTN honors right out from under SG and CWM's feet (sorry, fellas).

 

Zack vs. Black: now, I wantto say up front that I did enjoy this match, it had a lot of fast action and cool spots. But I'm gonna levy some criticism on it, so I want that known up front that overall I enjoyed it.

 

First off, I felt the psychology was lacking. There were two specific angles being worked here: the neck, and the mind games. Unfortunately, both seemed to be abandoned halfway through in favor of "let's hit all the cool spots we can." The mind games didn't bother me as much, because eventually both guys are gonna lose their cool and go at it. But the neck work by Black just seemed to be swallowed up in suplex after suplex (and I'll get to that in a second). Also, there was a big missed opportunity at the German off the top. When Zack landed on his face? I mean, why wouldn't Dan deliberately angle himself to drop Malibu on his head? Or, maybe he did, and Malibu shifted his weight to counter? Instead, it was just "the momentum of the move carried Zack to his face" and it did little to help tell a story. A cool spot, I give you that. And speaking of, how many suplexes did we need to see? I mean, I get that it's Black's bit, but both guys were more chain-suplexing than chain-wrestling. To me, it spoke of a bigger issue, and that's the lack of mat wrestling. Of course there was some, and what there was was good and solid. But in the end it got all sorts of spotty, and spots even ended up repeated because of it, and I thought that hurt the match.

 

My only other issue is that I thought the wrong guy went over. Zack's a two-time champ; Black's a star on the rise. To me, he could have used the win more. But hey, that's between you guys and as long as you're both happy with it, good enough for me. Overall, let me reiterate, a very FUN match, although I honestly wouldn't put it as a MOTY candidate, or even MOTN. By the way, I thought that little line was a bit tacky. It's different if someone else says it, and maybe it will get that award, as everyone else has seemed to really like it. But it seemed...presumptuous? I dunno. Anyway.

 

BRANNIGAN'S LAW! Sidenote: I miss Jesse as the governor of Minnesota. He wasn't very good, but I miss him all the same. The concept of a designer Battle Royal amuses me greatly. The explanation on the DDT was super chill. Actually, I'm really feeling the commentary as a whole thus far. This was a really, really good back-and-forth match, with good psychology and a hot, yet decisive ending for the champ. A GREAT first title defense. My favorite "match" of the night, although the Last Man Dancing was ridiculously entertaining. But both Tony and Axel should be proud of what the brought, capping off a good PPV with a great main.

[KingPK 0]

EDIT:

I love the people that know how to code their stuff -- Patty, Hoff, Adam, Mascot.

 

 

I'll feedback in a bit, but thanks for the kind words on my match. I guess it's true that you're harshest critic is yourself. If my descrption isn't clear enough, the move I had Brock submit to is called the Queen Angelito Stretch in the Smackdown games. I just modified it a bit with the full nelson.

[Hoff 0]

...what if we don't so much have the SmackDown games?

[alfdogg 0]

 

This is the move he's referring to, I believe.

[KingPK 0]

That's it. See how the pressure is on the lower back? That move will be PK's "Ace in the hole" alternative finisher; he'll break it out only when he needs it.

[King Cucaracha 0]

NYU- I did tag my vid package. But in the past, I've double-tagged and ended up with tags left in on the posted match (Dirty Deeds I think has that problem) so I usually just single-tag for OAOAST stuff. In the future, I'll make sure to double-tag, especially for you.

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

My only other issue is that I thought the wrong guy went over. Zack's a two-time champ; Black's a star on the rise. To me, he could have used the win more. But hey, that's between you guys and as long as you're both happy with it, good enough for me.

I was fine with Zack winning. If I was planning to move Dan into singles more I might have pushed for him to get the win but Black T is going to be around a while yet.

 

I haven't properly read Zack's portion of the match yet so I can't comment on the rest of your points yet...or the rest of the show...

 

*goes to read*

[Zack Malibu 0]

To respond to Hoff's critique, which I'm not offended with in the slightest:

 

Zack winning this was planned because, like Eski said, there's not really a plan in the works for Black T to be chasing singles glory just yet. As for my portion, I honestly would have liked to have written a lot more than I did, so that's probably why a lot of it reads spotty, as I didn't get to properly explain every sequence. The German off the top was a take on the TNA stacked superplex spot in the AMW/XXX cage match where Daniels took a suplex but wound up taking a face bump when his body was able to shift while in mid-air. It's not what Dan was going for, it's just what happened.

 

The ending, in my head, was supposed to become a knock down drag out because both guys realized that they were going to have to ditch psychology and just try to maim each other. The mulitple kickouts, the frustration, and all the drama leading into this match came to a head. I also didn't want to make it a clear cut blowout for the finish because too much went into this angle for that, and it's a way to extend the angle down the line if certain ideas discussed come into fruition.

[Hoff 0]

Hmm. Well, that makes some sense then. Here's the thing, and this may be personal opinion, but it seemed like...okay, psychology, then it stops, and THEN the sense of desparation and frustration sets in. As opposed to the frustration being the reason for the psychology being abandoned. It WAS A nice touch to have the announcers mention the neck work later, when Dan went for the Heart of Ice towards the end I believe it was.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

I enjoyed the Hoff and Crystal match. It had some good psychology to it and even though there wasn't a whole lot of Dusty style Clubberin' they went with the Dusty Finish to make up for it. I'll be interested in seeing where Hoff goes from here.

[Some Guy 0]

Some Guy did some job with that opening montage (I'm so punny sometimes). I wasn't here for the aWo days so it was nice seeing a few of those moments. It didn't drag either which is the most important thing. Did CWM write the first half of this match? I only ask because there are quite a few typos here already. Finished the whole thing and it was a good match that showed each guy reaching deep down. A weird way to finish things and some corny commentary here and there but I say its just "ring rust". Don't know if Some Guy wrote the whole thing on his own or if CWM helped but both guys haven't done it for awhile and I can see them only getting better once they get back into the zone. That's going to add alot of good depth to the roster too with them back.

 

Its 2 am so my feedback is done for the night.

I wrote the whole thing and I guess I didn't proof read it well enough. The opening package would have been better if I could've found different things. I wanted our tag title win but couldn't find it and I would've put more SG/CWM aWo interaction, but I think most of that happened in the original thread, which I can't find.

 

I hate doing commentary because I suck at it. If I had my way I would have two guys call it straight like Ross and Bob Caudle (sp?) used to. I don't like writing comedy commentary, as is evident by what I wrote I'm no good at it. Actually if I had my way I wouldn't put any commentary in at all and let someone else do it.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Well don't worry bout it any. Like I said, its the first time you've written a match in a good while I'm taking it. It had some good action and I'm optamistic with what you'll be bringing to the table. I have a good feeling you'll bring some good stuff to the table.

 

oh, and I like the Some Guy character but his crying...not so much ;p

[Some Guy 0]

I really liked the vid package before CWM/Some Guy.  I wasn't around for ANY of it and it was cool to see the backstory.  Odd trivia: I've already got a feud set up for...sometime in the future (omg welcome to the future), and I wanter to use CWM's entrance theme as the theme music for it, to set a vid package to and everything.  You bastard, you ruined my life.  The Somekick starting the match was cool, but the ref issuing a ten-count right then and there would have been a nice touch.  The Someission outta nowhere was a cool spot, and I enjoyed this match.

First off, thanks for the compliment.

 

I figured it wouldn't make sense for my character to hit a Somekick adn then sit back to allow the ref to count. The hatred would prevent me from wanting to win that quickly, without dealing out (or trying to) some punishment.

 

As far as the Somemission, I figured that I should get a little bit of offense, so I went with it.

 

There wasn't a real deep psychology to it and there didn't need to be, outside of "they hate each other."  Often, that's enough.  Caboose coming down in spite of himself was a NICE touch, and the ending WAS actually a pretty brilliant piece of psychology.  Thus far, this gets MOTN honors from moi.  But I haven't read the rest yet.  *dun dun dun*

 

I had the Stinger splash spots thought out before I went into it but wasn't going to use it as the finish. My original plan was to do kind of a lame finish where I would be down in the ring for ten and CWM would be down outside after some type of double KO spot that would knock him out of the ring. He would win because I was in the ring. I you look at Buffer's reading of the rules I had him say that the finish had to be in the ring and just never changed it. I suppose I'd rather lose, which was the plan all along when I pitched the match to CWM then have a screw job where no one looks good.

 

I kind of liked my idea to have CWM be able to step back and dissect the leg rather than go for Pollycutter after Pollycutter or just punch and kick. The main intention was to put his character over as ruthless and since I'm taking a break to heal up and I think he's sticking around, I didn't need think I needed to win or look invinsible.

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

Some Guy did an awesome job. I really enjoyed the ppv

[Guest Failed Mascot]

CABOOSE

Whatever, let's just get this debacle over with and file it beside WarGheymes in the 'Forgotten' file.

Awwww...the match hasn't even started and KC took a Pot-Shot at me. I'm already laughing at the fans being human ropes and the use of the term "the opposite fans". I also love the sound effect of "*DOOF!*". Its just a funny sound to make. Dear god KC, did you have to use THAT picture of Hasselhoff? I'll have nightmares for sure now. Getting punched in the face repeatedly by a Rock'em'Sock'em'Robot has to be one of the most humiliating things ever. KC did an awesome job and I'm a champion baby! The 70s Dude earned the belt too, he didn't just have it handed to him like some other character that shall remain nameless.

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

I finally read the show.

 

A usual mention for the excellent graphics and pre-show run down. Really makes the whole show seem that little more professional.

 

Knight-Killings-Brock was a decent, entertaining opener. Triple threats are always hard to write, but there werent any problems here, and the story of Knight and Brock both wanting to destroy Killings was well used. A cool new finisher from Knight, although I might have had Prince steal this one too to really put the heat on him.

 

Hitmen-Docs was just meant to be a silly, fun, throwaway match much like the whole feud has been. I like overbooking stuff.

 

I'm going to join in not feedbacking PRL till he brings the feed.

 

Nice little ruse from Ned to start off the tag title match. Patty managed to make this match both funny and important. Which is good. Its weird how the fans suddenly become really witty when CoD are wrestling. Really fun match to back up the insanely good storyline leading into it. More please.

 

CWM - Some Guy really did read like an old school match. Both characters came across really well. Could have gone longer but wasn't hurt by the length.

 

I really thought Hoff would beat Crystal. I don't know why. The leg work was well done, with Crystal returning to it after each of Hoff's comebacks, which I always prefer to one long segment. I've said before I don't really like Crystal using a release german suplex particularly, but I guess she's pretty strong, or something. As someone above said, interesting to see where Hoff goes from here. V good match.

 

Rodez-Dude was groovy. Loads of funny offence and the return of the 'hoff was awesome. Somewhat strange finish but I'm sure it'll all be explained. Weird to have such a long title run end in primarily a comedy match, but again theres potential for a more serious rematch.

 

I thought Zack did a great job on our match. I tried not to do anything to flashy with my portion, knowing Zack would have cool stuff for later, and he did. I do think the psychology holds together, and the finishing sequence worked really well for me. I would give this the MOTN but I have obvious bias

 

The World Title match was very good. I liked the little touches of Tony slimming down for the big match, and his taking an extra risk heading up top. I might not have had Axel kick out of the Out of Body Experience, as it kinda made all the back work for the past few weeks look redundant, but thats a small criticism.

 

Overall, very solid show all through, and Tony and I having high profile matches added to my personal enjoyment. I can't say I'm tremendously excited at seeing Axel-Crystal again, but I'm sure there's plenty to come to change my mind.

Edited April 26, 2005 by Mystery Eskimo