LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Frankly, I'd rather have the WM Legacy collection on DVD with some extra features. Me too . . . do you think we'll EVER be that lucky? I'd even settle for it if they'd release the old WM's one or two at a time, a la the "Tagged Classics" from the UK. Why not buy the ones from the UK? http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B...3098997-3938827 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Because they're in PAL format, and I'd need to buy a new DVD player to play PAL discs. I've looked online for a "hack" to make my DVD player region-free, but one doesn't exist. Point being, why in the hell does Vince deem it necessary to give fans in the UK these "Tagged Classics", but they won't get released in America? Seems odd to me . . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 30, 2005 In the UK, the WWE doesn't have to bother editing out "WWF", so they just take 2 coliseum videos, record them to DVD, and mass produce them for cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lawlerm Report post Posted April 30, 2005 In the UK, the WWE doesn't have to bother editing out "WWF", so they just take 2 coliseum videos, record them to DVD, and mass produce them for cheap. Its really annoying because the stuff that's UK only doesn't get edited out but things like the Flair DVD etc. still do, when they're released in the UK, just because they can't be bothered to make 2 different copies so they just give us a direct copy of the US release even though they don't have to. Why not just leave all the UK releases unedited? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 In the UK, the WWE doesn't have to bother editing out "WWF", so they just take 2 coliseum videos, record them to DVD, and mass produce them for cheap. Why not just leave all the UK releases unedited? One main reason is that standards for what can and can't be shown in the UK are different to the US. The angle where Terry Funk tied a plastic bag got edited out of the UK version of the Flair DVD because of the standards they have, so they sometimes can't make direct copies of US stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lawlerm Report post Posted April 30, 2005 In the UK, the WWE doesn't have to bother editing out "WWF", so they just take 2 coliseum videos, record them to DVD, and mass produce them for cheap. Why not just leave all the UK releases unedited? One main reason is that standards for what can and can't be shown in the UK are different to the US. The angle where Terry Funk tied a plastic bag got edited out of the UK version of the Flair DVD because of the standards they have, so they sometimes can't make direct copies of US stuff. Yes, but what i was saying is that in the Tagged Classics sets they don't edit out the 'WWF' because they're released only in the UK. But when we get all the other DVDs (Flair, Foley etc.) they're edited in the same way as the US ones (with all the 'WWF' references taken out) even though they clearly don't need to be to be sold here. When i said 'unedited' i just meant in terms of the 'WWF' bits. Obviously different markets will have different editing for what sort of content is allowed. This actually makes it even more stupid as if they edit it differently for each market then there's no need to take out the 'WWF' from our releases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Because they're in PAL format, and I'd need to buy a new DVD player to play PAL discs. I've looked online for a "hack" to make my DVD player region-free, but one doesn't exist. Point being, why in the hell does Vince deem it necessary to give fans in the UK these "Tagged Classics", but they won't get released in America? Seems odd to me . . . . I bought a PAL/NTSC player for less than $30...and was that was a year ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Yeah, a cheap Cyberhome player is great, it's what I use. They go on sale just about everywhere all the time, for around $25-$35 or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slabinskia 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 I wish they would put flair/voneric cage match from 82 flair/windam from battle of the belts Also,if only they could get footage of dk/tm from japan. I never thought they would release dvds like this.Great job. Here's hoping for a greatest tag teams dvd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 If the player has a PAL-NTSC conversion, does that mean it will play these UK tagged classics? Would it still have problems because the discs are region 2? Thanks for help. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 If the player has a PAL-NTSC conversion, does that mean it will play these UK tagged classics? Would it still have problems because the discs are region 2? Thanks for help. Jason They aren't R2...they're R0. Check the link I posted above. It has links to more classic WWF/E DVD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 They aren't R2...they're R0. Check the link I posted above. It has links to more classic WWF/E DVD's. Even better. Thanks a bunch. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 They aren't R2...they're R0. Check the link I posted above. It has links to more classic WWF/E DVD's. Even better. Thanks a bunch. Jason I just ordered SS 88 and 89 (Rockers!) today. The thing is, it doesn't tell you -- even during check out -- how many dollars you are paying. I could go look up the exchange rate right now, but I'd rather just wait and see what my bank statement says. While we're on the topic, can someone tell me which SuSe's, KotR's, etc. are worth buying? I don't remember the SuSe's being any good, but I was only 10-12 years old at the time. I plan on buying every RR that they put out. RR is a favorite of mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lawlerm Report post Posted April 30, 2005 The DVD of the 1st and 2nd Survivor Series could be pretty decent. The 2nd was the first PPV I ever saw so i've always liked it. The opener is a big 20 man tag elimination which is very good and the 1st has a decent womens bout with the Jumping Bomb Angels. None of the King Of The Rings were particularly great but '93 had some decent Bret matches and you get to see Hogan crushed by Yokozuna which is always good for a laugh (As well as the middle-aged man in the front row kitted out in Hulk attire trying to liven the crowd up). The only Tagged Classics set I have is the IYH 1/2 set which i got just cause it was in the sale. It's cool to see old stuff in much better picture quality though - even if the quality of the wrestling doesn't get any better (Nash/Sid - Twice!). And £14.99 is about $28. DVD's tend to me $5-10 more expensive here from what i've seen but its still OK for a double-disc set i suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Are the SSEries the old CV edits? I know they cut the 20-man tag in half on CV; did they do the same here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Something that always bugged me... On the Survivor Series 1988 Coliseum Video, they switched the match order! The opening match on PPV was Team Warrior vs. Team HTM, followed by Team Demolition vs. Team Powers of Pain, but they were switched for some unknown reason on the CV releases. 1987 is worth getting, but the 1988 one is so clipped up for 2 matches, it's a down the middle DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spman 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Something that always bugged me... On the Survivor Series 1988 Coliseum Video, they switched the match order! The opening match on PPV was Team Warrior vs. Team HTM, followed by Team Demolition vs. Team Powers of Pain, but they were switched for some unknown reason on the CV releases. 1987 is worth getting, but the 1988 one is so clipped up for 2 matches, it's a down the middle DVD. The Commercial Release of Survivor Series 1988 is clipped all to hell. The matches are out of order, The Ultimate Warrior Team vs Honkytonk Man Team match is edited down to about 7 minutes from around 20, and Duggans Team vs Andres Team is cut by about 15 minutes as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 So the twenty-man is cut, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 1, 2005 The twenty man is only about clipped of 6-7 minutes from 43:00 IIRC, but like mentioned, the opener was clipped from 18:00 to 8:00, and Team Roberts vs. Team Andre from 30:00 to 9:00! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lawlerm Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Even taking the clipping into account it's still more than worth a watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Only for 2 of the matches though (10 tag teams and Main Event). The two clipped matches go like this... Elimination CLIP Elimination CLIP Elimination CLIP Elimination CLIP Was 1988 the year Coliseum Video clipped out the Bulldogs elimination, or was it 1987? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 That was 1987. At least in 1988, none of the eliminations were cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Super Pissed Smark Report post Posted May 1, 2005 I never understood why they did that. They'd already released WM3 uncut on a 3-hour tape earlier in the year, so why clip these SS cards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Wrestlemania III I have never seen on CV, but WWE clipped the shit out of Wrestlemania 2 on CV, clipping out every single entrance, and most of the interviews. Going by that (clipping up 1 WM and not another), who knows what the process was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Super Pissed Smark Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Yeah, WM2 was totally cut down to fit on a 2-hour tape, though I don't think any actual in-ring action was dropped. Then WM 3 came out on a 3-hour, WM4 was released intact on two two-hour tapes and from then on all WM's were complete on 3-hour tapes. I think all the Summerslams from the first in 1988 were intact on 3-hour tapes as well (or 2h40m tapes, maybe). So who knows what they were thinking on the first two Survivors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 FWIW, SummerSlam 1988 and Royal Rumble 1989 were also clipped to 2 hours a piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 FWIW, SummerSlam 1988 and Royal Rumble 1989 were also clipped to 2 hours a piece. What's missing from the 89 Rumble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Super Pissed Smark Report post Posted May 1, 2005 FWIW, SummerSlam 1988 and Royal Rumble 1989 were also clipped to 2 hours a piece. I forgot I was probably watching tapes from the actual broadcast a week or so later by then, not renting the Coliseums any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Race/Haku was cut out from RR89. There is some clippage from the Women's Title match as it's clipped down to about two minutes. There is a clip during the final 4 of the Rumble as well. Probably more stuff was hacked too but I don't have the most keen eye for that sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted May 2, 2005 I think they also clipped out some interviews and number drawings, but that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites